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Clyde Drexler

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John Wall Dec 4, 2014 3:42:44 GMT

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Post by Clyde Drexler on Dec 4, 2014 3:42:44 GMT

I'm in the middle of procrastinating for finals, and was wondering what everyone thought about Wall's rating?

Current rating: 84
Suggested rating: 87

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0514/nba_a_wall_b1_576x324.jpg

In the past 3 years since this league has been created, John has shown that he has taken the next step in becoming a top 5 PG in the game. His shooting percentages is still sub-par, but he has shown improvement every year. One of his bigger knocks of playing for a shitty team are being proved wrong this year as the Wizards boast a 12-5 record.

Here are a collection of some of the highest rated PGs in the league, and John Wall's number shine. If it wasn't for Wall's poor FG% his stats would almost mirror Chris Paul's.

84 | John Wall - PPG 18.2 - APG 9.3 - SPG 2.3 - RPG 4.4 - FG% .432
84 | Mike Conley - PPG 16.3 - APG 6.4 - SPG 1.1 - RPG 3.1 - FG% .438
84 | Damien Lillard - PPG 19.7 - APG 6.7 - SPG 1.4 - RPG 4.9 - FG% .463
85 | Kyrie Irving - PPG 21.5 - APG 4.9 - SPG 1.6 - RPG 3.4 - FG% .479
87 | Tony Parker - PPG 17.2 - APG 5.7 - SPG 0.6 - RPG 1.9 - FG% .510
87 | Deron Williams - PPG 17.9 - APG 6.3 - SPG 1.3 - RPG 3.7 - FG% .450
87 | Rajon Rondo - PPG 8.8 - APG 11.1 - SPG 1.5 - RPG 7.7 - FG% .422
93 | Derrick Rose - PPG 16.3 - APG 5.1 - SPG 0.6 - RPG 3.2 - FG% .420
94 | Chris Paul - PPG 17.9 - APG 9.5 - SPG 2.1 - RPG 4.0 - FG% .526

I also think Lillard and Curry should be raised, but that's for a different thread.

Last Edit: Dec 4, 2014 3:44:09 GMT by Clyde Drexler

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James Kay ^{Charlotte Hornets} Trade Committee Posts: 3,000 Jun 26, 2024 15:27:29 GMT	John Wall Dec 4, 2014 3:52:36 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by James Kay on Dec 4, 2014 3:52:36 GMT I think 87 is perfectly fair. 87. Rose needs to come WAY down 93???
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Jeremiah Hill Former Grizzlies GM Franchise Player Posts: 6,333 Jun 18, 2024 13:48:51 GMT	John Wall Dec 4, 2014 3:53:42 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 4, 2014 3:53:42 GMT The most underrated superstar in the league. 88.
	Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from. Superstars 90+ All-Star 85-89 Great Starters 81-84 Starter Caliber 79-80 Good Bench Guys 77-78 3pt Specialist type guys 75-76 Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

Jeremiah Hill Former Grizzlies GM Franchise Player Posts: 6,333 Jun 18, 2024 13:48:51 GMT	John Wall Dec 4, 2014 3:55:12 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 4, 2014 3:55:12 GMT I second that on Rose Kay. I tried last season but everyone's reason of he's just so nice overrode my arguments.
	Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from. Superstars 90+ All-Star 85-89 Great Starters 81-84 Starter Caliber 79-80 Good Bench Guys 77-78 3pt Specialist type guys 75-76 Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

Brian Scalabrine ^{New Orleans Pelicans} All Star Posts: 3,930 Jul 16, 2022 18:43:48 GMT	John Wall Dec 4, 2014 3:57:30 GMT via the ProBoards App Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 4, 2014 3:57:30 GMT 87
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James Kay

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John Wall Dec 4, 2014 4:03:51 GMT Walt Frazier likes this

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Post by James Kay on Dec 4, 2014 4:03:51 GMT

Dec 4, 2014 3:55:12 GMT Jeremiah Hill said:

I second that on Rose Kay. I tried last season but everyone's reason of he's just so nice overrode my arguments.

Well he hadnt played so he didn't really have a chance to do anything that required a rating change until recently.

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Walt Frazier ^{Minnesota Timberwolves} Trade Committee Posts: 15,329 Jul 19, 2024 1:08:44 GMT	John Wall Dec 4, 2014 4:35:30 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 4, 2014 4:35:30 GMT I'm gonna go to an 89
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Jeremiah Hill

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John Wall Dec 4, 2014 4:43:21 GMT

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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 4, 2014 4:43:21 GMT

Dec 4, 2014 4:03:51 GMT James Kay said:

Dec 4, 2014 3:55:12 GMT Jeremiah Hill said:

I second that on Rose Kay. I tried last season but everyone's reason of he's just so nice overrode my arguments.

Well he hadnt played so he didn't really have a chance to do anything that required a rating change until recently.

Wasn't that your same argument against Wade?

Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from.
Superstars 90+
All-Star 85-89
Great Starters 81-84
Starter Caliber 79-80
Good Bench Guys 77-78
3pt Specialist type guys 75-76
Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

John Stockton Rookie Posts: 71 May 10, 2018 11:08:00 GMT	John Wall Dec 4, 2014 11:52:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by John Stockton on Dec 4, 2014 11:52:05 GMT I love Wall. He is playing at a high level plus hes on a winning team. I vote 87
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James Kay

^{Charlotte Hornets}

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Jun 26, 2024 15:27:29 GMT

John Wall Dec 4, 2014 19:13:29 GMT

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Post by James Kay on Dec 4, 2014 19:13:29 GMT

Dec 4, 2014 4:43:21 GMT Jeremiah Hill said:

Dec 4, 2014 4:03:51 GMT James Kay said:

Well he hadnt played so he didn't really have a chance to do anything that required a rating change until recently.

Wasn't that your same argument against Wade?

what? when was i arguing anything against wade

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Jeremiah Hill

Former Grizzlies GM

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John Wall Dec 5, 2014 0:05:54 GMT via mobile

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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 5, 2014 0:05:54 GMT

Dec 4, 2014 19:13:29 GMT James Kay said:

Dec 4, 2014 4:43:21 GMT Jeremiah Hill said:

Wasn't that your same argument against Wade?

what? when was i arguing anything against wade

Never it was a different person. I've been running mobile since my computer broke two weeks ago and everyones tiny avatars look the same. My mistake.

Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from.
Superstars 90+
All-Star 85-89
Great Starters 81-84
Starter Caliber 79-80
Good Bench Guys 77-78
3pt Specialist type guys 75-76
Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

Clyde Drexler Starter Posts: 760 Jun 14, 2019 8:42:03 GMT	John Wall Dec 9, 2014 14:10:56 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Clyde Drexler on Dec 9, 2014 14:10:56 GMT Anyone else?
	Portland Trailblazers 2011-2012 - 33-49 - Lottery 2012-2013 - 54-28 - Western Conference Finals 2013-2014 - 57-25 - D5 Champions 2014-2015 - 52- 30 - Semi Conference Finals Detroit Pistons 2017-2018 - 0-0

Hanamichi Sakuragi ^{Cleveland Cavaliers} All Star Posts: 4,946 Mar 15, 2023 21:18:28 GMT	John Wall Dec 9, 2014 14:35:27 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 9, 2014 14:35:27 GMT I do believe he is much better than Conley, Irving and Lillard. 86.
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John Stockton Rookie Posts: 71 May 10, 2018 11:08:00 GMT	John Wall Dec 10, 2014 0:19:21 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by John Stockton on Dec 10, 2014 0:19:21 GMT Im changing mine to an 88 after watching him play a little more. so the average so far is 88,86,87,88,87,88. is an 87.33333333333333333333333333333333333333 average
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Clyde Drexler Starter Posts: 760 Jun 14, 2019 8:42:03 GMT	John Wall Dec 30, 2014 17:01:21 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Clyde Drexler on Dec 30, 2014 17:01:21 GMT 86,87,87,88,88,88 = 87.5 More votes would be appreciative
	Portland Trailblazers 2011-2012 - 33-49 - Lottery 2012-2013 - 54-28 - Western Conference Finals 2013-2014 - 57-25 - D5 Champions 2014-2015 - 52- 30 - Semi Conference Finals Detroit Pistons 2017-2018 - 0-0

Jeremiah Hill Former Grizzlies GM Franchise Player Posts: 6,333 Jun 18, 2024 13:48:51 GMT	John Wall Dec 30, 2014 17:32:31 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 30, 2014 17:32:31 GMT It doesn't matter but I'm changing my vote to 89 after seeing him on Christmas.
	Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from. Superstars 90+ All-Star 85-89 Great Starters 81-84 Starter Caliber 79-80 Good Bench Guys 77-78 3pt Specialist type guys 75-76 Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

Alex English ^{Denver Nuggets} Trade Committee Posts: 5,791 Aug 7, 2024 15:22:56 GMT	John Wall Dec 30, 2014 18:06:44 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Alex English on Dec 30, 2014 18:06:44 GMT I'd say he's an 88.
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Brian Scalabrine ^{New Orleans Pelicans} All Star Posts: 3,930 Jul 16, 2022 18:43:48 GMT	John Wall Dec 30, 2014 19:54:57 GMT via the ProBoards App Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 30, 2014 19:54:57 GMT Also changing my vote to 89 he is a superstar no doubt
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Deleted Posts: 0 Nov 27, 2024 2:40:51 GMT	John Wall Dec 30, 2014 22:34:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 22:34:41 GMT 88 from me after seeing him play some on Christmas.

Walt Frazier ^{Minnesota Timberwolves} Trade Committee Posts: 15,329 Jul 19, 2024 1:08:44 GMT	John Wall Dec 30, 2014 23:41:58 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 30, 2014 23:41:58 GMT Bumping my 88 up to an 89 due to my own rating of Lowry.
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Charles Barkley All Star Posts: 3,547 Jul 12, 2022 4:24:50 GMT	John Wall Dec 31, 2014 8:35:11 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Charles Barkley on Dec 31, 2014 8:35:11 GMT 88
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Kevin Hollis Former Thunder GM for 7 years All Star Posts: 2,838 Dec 16, 2022 11:27:40 GMT	John Wall Jan 2, 2015 17:29:13 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 2, 2015 17:29:13 GMT 88 - very underrated.

Charles Barkley All Star Posts: 3,547 Jul 12, 2022 4:24:50 GMT	John Wall Jan 16, 2015 0:16:28 GMT Walt Frazier likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 16, 2015 0:16:28 GMT voting closed, thread closed
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Jeremiah Hill Former Grizzlies GM Franchise Player Posts: 6,333 Jun 18, 2024 13:48:51 GMT	John Wall Jan 16, 2015 2:54:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 16, 2015 2:54:05 GMT When you close voting can you tell us what the final result was?
	Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from. Superstars 90+ All-Star 85-89 Great Starters 81-84 Starter Caliber 79-80 Good Bench Guys 77-78 3pt Specialist type guys 75-76 Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

Walt Frazier

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Jul 19, 2024 1:08:44 GMT

John Wall Jan 16, 2015 3:47:19 GMT

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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 16, 2015 3:47:19 GMT

Jan 16, 2015 2:54:05 GMT Jeremiah Hill said:

When you close voting can you tell us what the final result was?

They should theoretically be listed here - dynasty5ive.proboards.com/thread/3712/rating-change-summary

Please let me know if you find a mistake somewhere.

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Jeremiah Hill Former Grizzlies GM Franchise Player Posts: 6,333 Jun 18, 2024 13:48:51 GMT	John Wall Jan 16, 2015 4:06:00 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 16, 2015 4:06:00 GMT No I was just being lazy.
	Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from. Superstars 90+ All-Star 85-89 Great Starters 81-84 Starter Caliber 79-80 Good Bench Guys 77-78 3pt Specialist type guys 75-76 Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

Walt Frazier ^{Minnesota Timberwolves} Trade Committee Posts: 15,329 Jul 19, 2024 1:08:44 GMT	John Wall Jan 16, 2015 4:25:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 16, 2015 4:25:39 GMT OK well, since I already do the work in that thread, I'm going to also be lazy and not do it here :-p
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Charles Barkley All Star Posts: 3,547 Jul 12, 2022 4:24:50 GMT	John Wall Jan 16, 2015 5:42:34 GMT Walt Frazier likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 16, 2015 5:42:34 GMT Jan 16, 2015 2:54:05 GMT Jeremiah Hill said: When you close voting can you tell us what the final result was? From now on, if I remember, I will.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Dec 4, 2014 3:42:44 GMT

Post by James Kay on Dec 4, 2014 3:52:36 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 4, 2014 3:53:42 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 4, 2014 3:55:12 GMT

Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 4, 2014 3:57:30 GMT

Post by James Kay on Dec 4, 2014 4:03:51 GMT

Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 4, 2014 4:35:30 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 4, 2014 4:43:21 GMT

Post by John Stockton on Dec 4, 2014 11:52:05 GMT

Post by James Kay on Dec 4, 2014 19:13:29 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 5, 2014 0:05:54 GMT

Post by Clyde Drexler on Dec 9, 2014 14:10:56 GMT

Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 9, 2014 14:35:27 GMT

Post by John Stockton on Dec 10, 2014 0:19:21 GMT

Post by Clyde Drexler on Dec 30, 2014 17:01:21 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 30, 2014 17:32:31 GMT

Post by Alex English on Dec 30, 2014 18:06:44 GMT

Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 30, 2014 19:54:57 GMT

Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 22:34:41 GMT

Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 30, 2014 23:41:58 GMT

Post by Charles Barkley on Dec 31, 2014 8:35:11 GMT

Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 2, 2015 17:29:13 GMT

Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 16, 2015 0:16:28 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 16, 2015 2:54:05 GMT

Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 16, 2015 3:47:19 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 16, 2015 4:06:00 GMT

Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 16, 2015 4:25:39 GMT

Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 16, 2015 5:42:34 GMT

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