Chris Mullin
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Post by Chris Mullin on Dec 31, 2014 8:49:24 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 2, 2015 16:08:58 GMT
Iggy is basically a shitty version of Rondo at this point in his career which is basically alright passing and decent defense. If that is the prerequisite for an 80+ rating might as well take every PG who shoots above 70% FT and gets 6.5 assists per game up to a 90.
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 2, 2015 16:50:22 GMT
I agree with others on the 78-80 range. Iguodala is trending down, as previously stated. He is 30 and his career was based on athleticism, for the most part. I feel Iggy is higly overrated and always has been. Everyone thought that him going to the Warriors would put them over the top, but that has not been the case. I will say that he is a good perimeter defender, but as mentioned, his defensive stats are down.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 15, 2015 0:34:41 GMT
Thread closed. Any and all new opinions of Iggy need to be made in a new thread.
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Post by James Kay on Jun 26, 2015 19:29:51 GMT
I'm pretty sure Matthew Dellavedova let the league in +/- last season or was close to it. These type of stats should be supporting evidence not the only evidence. But it's your vote James. Guess its time to respond to this. I dont think that ever happened Jeremiah. I'd like to see what you're referring to. Anyway, regardless of your thoughts on whether Iggy deserved MVP or if his performance justifies a rating reflective of the level of play that he put forth in the Finals,….the way he stepped up, by being a leader to the younger players, defending the best player on the planet 1 on 1 for the majority of the time, by making plays, scoring the ball…. At the very least speaks to the narrative that he sacrifices for the team and that he has a lot of value that is hidden by these sacrifices. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 26, 2015 22:25:39 GMT
I'm pretty sure Matthew Dellavedova let the league in +/- last season or was close to it. These type of stats should be supporting evidence not the only evidence. But it's your vote James. Guess its time to respond to this. I dont think that ever happened Jeremiah. I'd like to see what you're referring to. Anyway, regardless of your thoughts on whether Iggy deserved MVP or if his performance justifies a rating reflective of the level of play that he put forth in the Finals,….the way he stepped up, by being a leader to the younger players, defending the best player on the planet 1 on 1 for the majority of the time, by making plays, scoring the ball…. At the very least speaks to the narrative that he sacrifices for the team and that he has a lot of value that is hidden by these sacrifices. He played LBJ one on one very well. But I fail to see how he contributes in a way that is that much more impactful to a team than Tony Allen would be in a reserve role. He contributes. I'm not suggesting he be dropped down to a 60. I'm saying he's not worthy of his very high rating. He had 1 good series where he really stepped up. It happens to at least one player per finals and it might as well have been him. For a few games it was Dellavedova who played above his station for a bit. He's still a terrible FT shooter for some reason and his 3 point shot doesn't hit on average as much as it did in the finals. The Dellavedova thing was some adjusted stat and I don't even remember where I found it. Doesn't change my opinion of Iguodala as a player. |
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Post by James Kay on Jun 26, 2015 22:52:08 GMT
Guess its time to respond to this. I dont think that ever happened Jeremiah. I'd like to see what you're referring to. Anyway, regardless of your thoughts on whether Iggy deserved MVP or if his performance justifies a rating reflective of the level of play that he put forth in the Finals,….the way he stepped up, by being a leader to the younger players, defending the best player on the planet 1 on 1 for the majority of the time, by making plays, scoring the ball…. At the very least speaks to the narrative that he sacrifices for the team and that he has a lot of value that is hidden by these sacrifices. He played LBJ one on one very well. But I fail to see how he contributes in a way that is that much more impactful to a team than Tony Allen would be in a reserve role. He contributes. I'm not suggesting he be dropped down to a 60. I'm saying he's not worthy of his very high rating. He had 1 good series where he really stepped up. It happens to at least one player per finals and it might as well have been him. For a few games it was Dellavedova who played above his station for a bit. He's still a terrible FT shooter for some reason and his 3 point shot doesn't hit on average as much as it did in the finals. The Dellavedova thing was some adjusted stat and I don't even remember where I found it. Doesn't change my opinion of Iguodala as a player. There is absolutely 0 chance of Tony Allen putting on the performance Iggy did. but whatever |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 27, 2015 6:06:38 GMT
He played LBJ one on one very well. But I fail to see how he contributes in a way that is that much more impactful to a team than Tony Allen would be in a reserve role. He contributes. I'm not suggesting he be dropped down to a 60. I'm saying he's not worthy of his very high rating. He had 1 good series where he really stepped up. It happens to at least one player per finals and it might as well have been him. For a few games it was Dellavedova who played above his station for a bit. He's still a terrible FT shooter for some reason and his 3 point shot doesn't hit on average as much as it did in the finals. The Dellavedova thing was some adjusted stat and I don't even remember where I found it. Doesn't change my opinion of Iguodala as a player. There is absolutely 0 chance of Tony Allen putting on the performance Iggy did. but whatever I agree, but what I'm saying is that if you cut off 6 games he's pretty much Tony Allen with slightly better passing. Seriously it's pretty ridiculous. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 27, 2015 6:08:32 GMT
BTW, that's this season's comparison and Tony Allen is 2 years older than Iguodala.
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