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Post by Glenn Robinson on Nov 27, 2014 5:28:42 GMT
Current Rating: 87
Suggested Rating: 92
Anthony Davis is quickly emerging as the best big in the NBA and possibly the best player overall. With another season or two I think he will be a serious MVP contender. Currently he is averaging 25.4ppg 11.2rpg 3.4blkpg 2.1stlpg and shooting around 56% from the field.
I think Davis is the real deal and should start the season in the 90's at the very least.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 27, 2014 5:49:33 GMT
I know I said 95 in the other thread, but watching him get bullied by Cousins made me take it back down to a 92. Still an amazing talent. He'll probably end up 95-97 next year though.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Nov 27, 2014 11:43:54 GMT
95
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 27, 2014 12:31:28 GMT
91/92 from me
If he keeps it up, then bump him higher.
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Nov 27, 2014 16:19:59 GMT
I say 92 at this point but would expect for him to quickly move up even more soon.
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Post by Danny Longley on Nov 27, 2014 16:32:24 GMT
I've got no problem bringing him to a 90 89 right now, would probably be more amiable to boosting him further once he takes his team somewhere. To be fair though, even a late scramble for the 8th seed would probably be enough for me considering he's in the Southwest. Edit: James Kay's post in mind and having looked through my previous stance on the Kevin Love thread, might be minor but I'd actually be more comfortable with an 89. Again, I'll give him the 90+ when he takes his Pelicans somewhere. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Nov 28, 2014 2:17:31 GMT
I'll put in a 92, but I am ready to go higher as the season goes on lol. Love this kid.
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Post by James Kay on Nov 28, 2014 5:43:26 GMT
I think I'm gonna go with 90. I think he just might be the next big big thing, but I also think anything higher than 90 too high for his current level of play. His PER right now is absolutely absurd but it is only a few weeks into the season.
Also, just to spark discussion, because I'm not exactly sure of my own thoughts on the matter, but is AD that much more valuable than Stephen Curry - who's rated an 89? The Warriors are playing much better than the Pelicans right now. Is Curry's supporting cast and coaching that much greater? Just something to think about I guess. Like I said, just looking to spark discussion.
Edited: 92
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Glenn Robinson
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Nov 28, 2014 18:19:54 GMT
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Post by James Kay on Nov 28, 2014 19:43:47 GMT
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Nov 29, 2014 2:47:21 GMT
You do realize fantasy is based off what guys do in real life right? Read the entire article. It's more than just a fantasy basketball puff piece. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 30, 2014 6:20:36 GMT
He almost led that team to the playoffs last year in a historically competitive Western Conference. In his second year.
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Dec 1, 2014 4:24:06 GMT
Bump
"Davis leads the player efficiency ratings at 33.43, more than double the league average. If he kept that up for a full season, he would surpass Wilt Chamberlain’s 1962-63 season for the most efficient on record." - BENJAMIN HOFFMAN
I know people want to hold off giving Davis a big boost because he is still so young, but Jeremiah made an excellent point. Given the strength of the west and his talent to work with in New Orleans, being a second year forward last year and nearly getting your team to the playoffs speaks for itself. This year he is putting it all together and is quickly becoming the best NBA player. I'm being conservative now with my 92 rating boost but pretty soon 95+ is gonna come a knockin' and I think it's fair to give him his due.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 1, 2014 12:35:36 GMT
Same argument I've always had for Kevin Love: he might put up a ton of stats, but he still has never had a winning record.
83 Jrue Holiday
81 Eric Gordon
83 Tyreke Evans
82 Ryan Anderson
87 Anthony Davis
Something isn't adding up here with how high we've rated all the Pelicans players.
Davis only gets an 89 from me until he starts contributing in a winning environment.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 1, 2014 15:34:14 GMT
Barber - The team doesn't know how to win yet. They are getting there, but talent doesn't always equal wins. More talented teams lose to less talented teams all of the time in all sports. The Pelicans are doing well and making improvements. They are in the toughest division I've ever seen in my life, and the Conference is still hella-strong.
You simply must give AD credit for what he's doing. Same argument I've always had. How can you ignore the stats completely? Does coaching not matter? Does team chemistry not matter? A winning culture needs to be cultivated. You know even Michael Jordan, the greatest of all time, didn't come into the league winning championships, even though his stats were great right away. I guess some of us would have seen Jordan's talent before he got his team a ring, while Barber would have had him as an 89 through his first 5 seasons.
I'm not comparing AD to Jordan, but the kid is a fucking basketball monster, give him some damn credit.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 2, 2014 1:55:38 GMT
Barber - The team doesn't know how to win yet. They are getting there, but talent doesn't always equal wins. More talented teams lose to less talented teams all of the time in all sports. The Pelicans are doing well and making improvements. They are in the toughest division I've ever seen in my life, and the Conference is still hella-strong. You simply must give AD credit for what he's doing. Same argument I've always had. How can you ignore the stats completely? Does coaching not matter? Does team chemistry not matter? A winning culture needs to be cultivated. You know even Michael Jordan, the greatest of all time, didn't come into the league winning championships, even though his stats were great right away. I guess some of us would have seen Jordan's talent before he got his team a ring, while Barber would have had him as an 89 through his first 5 seasons. I'm not comparing AD to Jordan, but the kid is a fucking basketball monster, give him some damn credit. You act like I rated him a 78... I gave him an 89. That makes him one of the best players in the league. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 2, 2014 4:16:48 GMT
I was more referring to your statements about the Pelicans team, with Davis as part of that. He's better than an 89 though. If I wasn't being conservative I'd have him at a 94 or 95, but we have different standards.
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Post by John Stockton on Dec 2, 2014 23:18:55 GMT
90
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Dec 3, 2014 5:08:14 GMT
Tonight: 25 points, 10 rebounds, 6 steals, 4 assists, 4 blocked shots. At some point this guy is gonna get a quadruple double.
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Post by James Kay on Dec 4, 2014 0:31:00 GMT
I decided to edit/change my "vote" to a 92.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 5, 2014 1:26:04 GMT
what we need to give him right now is the safest rating that we can.. with just 16 games in the season.. I do believe he will not falter and it will all depends if he can carry his team to the playoffs. For me the safest rating is 93 and if he did not falter and carry his team to the playoffs, he should have a 96  |
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Dec 5, 2014 14:46:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 19:23:20 GMT
I will give Glenn the 92 he wants. Honestly, I've never seen him play a full game but his stats and highlights are INSANE! It's too bad the Kings didn't win the 2012 draft lottery!  |
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Post by Magic Johnson on Dec 6, 2014 14:25:30 GMT
89 if we hold Kyrie and Love same standards for not being able to elevate team and make the playoffs you have to do the same for Davis although the major difference between Davis and those 2 is the fact he plays defense and they don't, if it was strictly stats (which he dominates both offense/defense) then it's a 93 from me.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Dec 6, 2014 20:06:14 GMT
I posted in the other thread, but I give him a 91-92.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 21:31:05 GMT
89 if we hold Kyrie and Love same standards for not being able to elevate team and make the playoffs you have to do the same for Davis although the major difference between Davis and those 2 is the fact he plays defense and they don't, if it was strictly stats (which he dominates both offense/defense) then it's a 93 from me. There is a big difference between making the playoffs in the East and making the playoffs in the West. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 30, 2014 5:06:38 GMT
I want to push for his increase because I believe that he is one of the most deserving of it.
Here are some numbers:
TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
13-14 10.0 1.6 1.3 2.8 1.6 3.0 20.8
14-15 10.2 1.6 1.7 3.0 1.3 1.9 24.6
13-14 D5 Ave
19.9 pts 10.5 rebs 1.9 asts 1.07 stls 2.22 blks
Advance Stats:
PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK%
13-14 26.5 .582 .009 .438 10.0 23.3 16.6 8.0 2.0 6.7
14-15 32.5 .616 .014 .396 8.3 24.9 16.4 8.5 2.4 6.6
I do consider the argument that he still cannot lead his team to the playoff..
so I do believe the best rating for him right now is 92. The difference of his D5 averages to his real life numbers is quite big. The bulk of the increase should be on the scoring skills and Outside defense skills.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 30, 2014 5:06:49 GMT
I want to push for his increase because I believe that he is one of the most deserving of it.
Here are some numbers:
TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
13-14 10.0 1.6 1.3 2.8 1.6 3.0 20.8
14-15 10.2 1.6 1.7 3.0 1.3 1.9 24.6
13-14 D5 Ave
19.9 pts 10.5 rebs 1.9 asts 1.07 stls 2.22 blks
Advance Stats:
PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK%
13-14 26.5 .582 .009 .438 10.0 23.3 16.6 8.0 2.0 6.7
14-15 32.5 .616 .014 .396 8.3 24.9 16.4 8.5 2.4 6.6
I do consider the argument that he still cannot lead his team to the playoff..
so I do believe the best rating for him right now is 92. The difference of his D5 averages to his real life numbers is quite big. The bulk of the increase should be on the scoring skills and Outside defense skills.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Dec 30, 2014 5:11:12 GMT
I want to push for his increase because I believe that he is one of the most deserving of it. Here are some numbers: TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 13-14 10.0 1.6 1.3 2.8 1.6 3.0 20.8 14-15 10.2 1.6 1.7 3.0 1.3 1.9 24.6 13-14 D5 Ave 19.9 pts 10.5 rebs 1.9 asts 1.07 stls 2.22 blks Advance Stats: PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% 13-14 26.5 .582 .009 .438 10.0 23.3 16.6 8.0 2.0 6.7 14-15 32.5 .616 .014 .396 8.3 24.9 16.4 8.5 2.4 6.6 I do consider the argument that he still cannot lead his team to the playoff.. so I do believe the best rating for him right now is 92. The difference of his D5 averages to his real life numbers is quite big. The bulk of the increase should be on the scoring skills and Outside defense skills. It's really fucking amazing how close his D5 13-14 season was to his 13-14 campaign with the Pels. We're doing something right. |
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Dec 30, 2014 14:05:08 GMT
92 seems to be the most consistent rating. Lets make it happen, Ian! |
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