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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 18:46:31 GMT
Indiana Pacers Trade:
81 Nikola Pekovic $8,267,445 $9,176,863 $10,186,318-PO $11,306,814
81 Derrick Williams $5,016,960 $6,331,404-TO $8,262,482
72 K. Caldwell-Pope $1,742,400 $1,820,800 $1,899,200-TO $1,949,443-TO $2,001,290
64 Pierre Jackson $887,000 $926,900 $966,800-TO $978,810-TO $998,386
77 Wilson Chandler $7,400,000 $7,400,000 $7,400,000
74 Kevin Seraphin $2,761,114 $3,898,692
71 Otto Porter $2,210,900 $2,310,400 $2,409,800-TO $2,498,396-TO $2,570,189
Total: $28,285,819
San Antonio Spurs Trade:
88 Andre Iguodala $15,904,750 - expiring
84 Monta Ellis $11,000,000 - expiring
75 Derek Fisher $490,180 $980,360-PO
77 Marvin Williams $490,180 $544,100-PO
67 Taylor Griffin $490,180-Expiring
66 Cole Aldrich $490,180-Expiring
68 Nolan Smith $490,180-Expiring
2016 #2 Chicago Bulls
2017 #2 Chicago Bulls
Total: $29,355,650
As we have been forced to rebuild, we have been speaking to several teams looking to trade to not get a steal but to rebuild while helping a good friend keep those players needed while trading him those players to help him contend. This trade helps us both. In the end I get younger talent instead of losing both Iggy and Ellis at the end of the season. Indy gets two players that included with the rest of his team and my vets give him a chance to contend. At seasons end he will have the cap to resign or go after other FAs to build off of. We wish him the best and look forward to trying to win with younger guys and rebuild.
We accept. Gl Indy...
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Post by Tracy McGrady on Apr 15, 2014 18:47:34 GMT
Woah what the....
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 15, 2014 19:01:17 GMT
Need total salaries both ways.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 15, 2014 19:01:49 GMT
And Options should be labeled.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:03:01 GMT
Ok yes sir Walt. Never had to in many recent trades but for you I will.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:03:51 GMT
Seriously we have been working on this for days. I'm on my phone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:04:48 GMT
Salaries are close enough. But I'll do options
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 15, 2014 19:06:19 GMT
Haha it's in the rules, every trade ever has total salaries and any options noted. If not, then I didn't look at the trade b/c I always call people on that.
Lose the attitude man
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:07:45 GMT
Yes boss.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 15, 2014 19:07:49 GMT
Pacers Trade: $28,285,819
Spurs Trade: $29,355,650
Salaries are fine but they need to be in there, did that for you.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 15, 2014 19:08:05 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 15, 2014 19:11:05 GMT
Imagine if this deal happened in real life.
"This just in! San Antonio has been traded for Indiana. What? Yes! The entire team!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:13:58 GMT
Is there a problem here?
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 15, 2014 19:15:56 GMT
We need to hear from Indy first. I think on the whole he gets the bad end of the deal here. He's setting his lineup back to zero like he did last year. It's not exactly out of Pat Riley's book of ingenious GM moves.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:17:38 GMT
That's fine. But you guys want me to make moves to get younger. He gets better. If he changes his mind because of anything find a new GM ok.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:27:34 GMT
Indy will accept very soon with reasoning. Good Luck Indy...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:41:06 GMT
Indys New Roster
David West Andre Iguodala Monta Ellis Jason Terry Marvin Williams Maurice Williams Corey Maggette Derek Fisher Nick Young Meyers Leonard Daequan Cook Sergio Lull Taylor Griffin Cole Aldrich Nolan Smith Marcus Williams G. Antetokounmpo
Two will be dropped in West Trade
Spurs New Roster:
Al Harrington Amar'e Stoudemire Tayshaun Prince Jose Barea Mike Miller Antawn Jamison Channing Frye Wilson Chandler Nikola Pekovic Derrick Williams Otto Porter Pierre Jackson Kevin Seraphin K. Caldwell-Pope
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 20:01:19 GMT
Imagine if this deal happened in real life. "This just in! San Antonio has been traded for Indiana. What? Yes! The entire team!" And actually it was 7 players each team. And if this league was 100% real we would not have committee members forcing gms to run their teams one way or another. Players would be valued off of what a gm likes and wants mo matter what other GMs think or feel. If a trade betters a teams chance at winning or if a gm feels that's best for his team trades for the most part don't get denied.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 20:04:01 GMT
Indy is busy I know and he will be on to accept. I have to go get my son's and I will check back on the trade as soon as I can.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 20:08:53 GMT
We need to hear from Indy first. I think on the whole he gets the bad end of the deal here. He's setting his lineup back to zero like he did last year. It's not exactly out of Pat Riley's book of ingenious GM moves. He has the roster to contend. And he will have cap space to resign. He has many ootiond. The trades more than fair. I'm happy for both our team's...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 20:10:32 GMT
And he's Larry Bird... who cares about Pat Riley.
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Post by Larry Bird on Apr 15, 2014 20:29:19 GMT
I accept this trade.
Where has the team I have got me?
Planted on the "TAMKING" list, I'm below 500. Now because I am in the East, I'm still in the playoffs. Therefore I have to prepare my team to beat the top teams in the East. This isn't the NCAA tournament and I'm not Kentucky. I would rather try to win than wait on prospects to build up.
I believe this team helps round out my starting lineup. I will get a scorer and a defensive glue guy. I get two proven guys who can help me make a run in the playoffs.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 15, 2014 20:45:44 GMT
Holy shit. 7 posts in a row from JR, that has to be a record. We should give him an award. Anyway, I really like this trade for the Spurs. He's walking away from the potential disaster of striking out in free agency. This will give him a decent core of Pekovic, Chandler, and I guess Amare. But importantly he'll have a good young group of Williams, Seraphin, Porter and KCP to try and build some sort of future with the team. Next year is more of the same but going into next years free agency he'll have Nikola Pekovic, Wilson Chandler, Derrick Williams, Otto Porter, KCP, and Pierre Jackson under contract with about $30 million to spend. He could get out of the hole he's in and have a solid team to work with if he can sign a few good players. For Indy, I guess he wants to take a swing at free agency. He still has good players in West, Iguodala, and Ellis, but there is a lot of uncertainty with many of them having expiring contracts. If he's willing to risk striking out in free agency though, then I guess I don't have much of a problem with it. Though the Spurs definitely win this deal imo. I accept.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Apr 15, 2014 20:54:35 GMT
I accept. Alex pretty much sum it up.
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Post by Bob McAdoo on Apr 15, 2014 22:50:16 GMT
In the initial post JRW wrote...
...rebuild while helping a good friend keep those players needed while trading him those players to help him contend...
This sounds a lot like collusion between owners to me. Maybe my good friend will trade me KD so I can win this year while he tanks and then I'll send him back next year when it is his turn...
This stuff makes me very nervous.
Bob
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 15, 2014 23:07:58 GMT
In the initial post JRW wrote......rebuild while helping a good friend keep those players needed while trading him those players to help him contend... This sounds a lot like collusion between owners to me. Maybe my good friend will trade me KD so I can win this year while he tanks and then I'll send him back next year when it is his turn...This stuff makes me very nervous.
Bob Apart from the players he's receiving though, who does Indiana need to re-sign? I don't know if it's such a big deal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 23:11:36 GMT
Lol. Aw. Guess what hes always been a good gm since the beginning. This trade helps us both. Nothing more. Im not new to the league nor would I ever cheat. Theres always that opinion about gms. Ive seen many gms on our league before that knew each other and went to school together. Think I ever complained. Ive never thought anyone was cheating me until recently when ny entire roster for the most part was put into the stock watch. But it is what it is. Im trying to move on and make my team into something special.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 23:25:02 GMT
I allow ian to read or use my account. Never would I cheat. Its those that usually blame that truly do things. I work security. Those that get angry that we are there are the ones that lie, cheat and steal.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Apr 16, 2014 0:00:45 GMT
PM sent!
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Apr 16, 2014 0:29:52 GMT
I see no evidence of collusion at all.
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