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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 23:00:00 GMT
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 7, 2014 23:17:00 GMT
Bosh scores more PPG, has a better PER, more steals/game, more assists/game, makes more 3 pt field goals per game, and has a longer track record of high performance.
With that being said, I don't feel like Ibaka is an 82, but I don't feel like he is better than Bosh. Chris Bosh also shoots better from the charity stripe.
85 on Ibaka. Don't feel he is better than Cousins or Anthony Davis. Can't say he is better than Duncan either.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 7, 2014 23:17:46 GMT
85 as well
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 23:47:54 GMT
Well I am happy, happy, happy that we are getting SOMEWHERE with you guys!  |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 8, 2014 0:17:36 GMT
81
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 8, 2014 0:47:51 GMT
Jeremiah, you do know the top and bottom rating get eliminated no matter where they are. Just put in what you really think the guy should be. If Vlade is way over, it gets eliminated anyway. You are really just bringing the actual player's rating down. If you would normally vote 85, just vote 85. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 8, 2014 0:52:42 GMT
I'll go 84. He doesn't take many yet but he's added a 3pt shot and has a very respectable % there, plus his FT% seems to be normalizing in the 75+% range. Coupled with the blocks and 9 boards, 15 points, I see enough to put him significantly over guys in the 79-80 range (where we have a lot of regular/solid bigs).
To be completely honest, I'm not quite sure why he is 6-8 points better than Favors. 3pt shot could add in 1-1.5 overall points I guess, and his FT% is better as well, maybe that's another point of OVR rating? He blocks more but steals less...rebounds are the same/less factoring in playing time and his point advantage is only 2, tied into shooting more shots and being on the court more.
I think an injustice was done in the Favors thread, sorry to bring it up again and again, it irks me when I see pretty similar #'s.
I like Ibaka a lot though, 84 is good for him.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 8, 2014 1:23:25 GMT
Jeremiah, you do know the top and bottom rating get eliminated no matter where they are. Just put in what you really think the guy should be. If Vlade is way over, it gets eliminated anyway. You are really just bringing the actual player's rating down. If you would normally vote 85, just vote 85. I thought they were averaged. I shall correct it from now on. |
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Post by James Kay on Apr 8, 2014 1:26:04 GMT
His defense is amazing.
"During the 2012-13 season, 59 NBA players attempted at least 300 midrange shots. None made a higher percentage than Serge Ibaka." - Grantland
This season he's shooting 38.9 from 3.
87.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 8, 2014 1:34:45 GMT
I think maybe Favors is lower in comparison to Ibaka because of the athletic attributes, and I think that those attributes weigh more heavily in the equation for the overall rating. Favors is athletic. But when Ibaka was just coming up, he was this Deandre Jordan freakish athlete who, when all else failed, had the crazy athleticism to fall back on.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 8, 2014 1:56:19 GMT
To be completely honest, I'm not quite sure why he is 6-8 points better than Favors...I think an injustice was done in the Favors thread Seriousily, your worse than Vlade Divac. Billy from you, Ibaka is 9 points better than Favors. 29:59mpg - 13p / 8.8r / 1.2a / 1.7t / 1.5b / 1.0s 51.4% & 67.2% 32:59mpg - 15.1p / 8.7r / 1.0a / 1.5t / 2.6b / 0.5s 53.8% & 77.6% And yes, he shoots 0.7 3's a game and makes them at a 38.9% rate. I like Ibaka more than Favors. Please don't misunderstand me. I don't see a NINE POINT difference that you just put out there Billy. Sorry. THAT is worse than anything Vlade has done :-) |
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Post by Alex English on Apr 8, 2014 2:12:51 GMT
89 is absurd. I'll say an 85. He's developing a nice offensive game to go with his elite defense.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 8, 2014 2:15:17 GMT
Billy from you, Ibaka is 9 points better than Favors. 29:59mpg - 13p / 8.8r / 1.2a / 1.7t / 1.5b / 1.0s 51.4% & 67.2% 32:59mpg - 15.1p / 8.7r / 1.0a / 1.5t / 2.6b / 0.5s 53.8% & 77.6% And yes, he shoots 0.7 3's a game and makes them at a 38.9% rate. I like Ibaka more than Favors. Please don't misunderstand me. I don't see a NINE POINT difference that you just put out there Billy. Sorry. THAT is worse than anything Vlade has done :-) Yes, because he is 9 points better! When has Favors ever led the league in blocks for two consecutive years? When has Favors ever had the highest shooting percentage from midrange? When has Favors ever made the All-NBA defensive first team? When has Favors ever been apart of a championship contending team? Not only is he proven with accolades, but he's a more efficient scorer and a key component of a championship team. Ignorance Is Bliss Funny that you gave Favors a 78 in January and then in March/April gave him a 76. He got worse in those two months? Anyway, I know what's going on and there's not much I can do about it right now. Carry on |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2014 3:34:50 GMT
Seriousily, your worse than Vlade Divac. Billy from you, Ibaka is 9 points better than Favors. 29:59mpg - 13p / 8.8r / 1.2a / 1.7t / 1.5b / 1.0s 51.4% & 67.2% 32:59mpg - 15.1p / 8.7r / 1.0a / 1.5t / 2.6b / 0.5s 53.8% & 77.6% And yes, he shoots 0.7 3's a game and makes them at a 38.9% rate. I like Ibaka more than Favors. Please don't misunderstand me. I don't see a NINE POINT difference that you just put out there Billy. Sorry. THAT is worse than anything Vlade has done :-) Remember Walt, we are using the Chris Bosh scale....get out of the 70's and update with the times my friend! |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 8, 2014 3:56:45 GMT
100
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Apr 8, 2014 11:32:56 GMT
84
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Apr 8, 2014 12:43:32 GMT
84
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