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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 5, 2014 21:59:32 GMT
The Houston Rockets and Phoenix Suns announce the following transaction:
Houston Rockets send:
Kawhi Leonard $1,887,840 $2,894,059 $4,045,894
Kenyon Martin $4,700,000
Salary Out: $6,587,840
Houston Rockets New Figure Against the Cap: $59,856,276
Phoenix Suns send:
Spencer Hawes $4,997,100 $5,117,000
2014 New Orleans Pelicans First Round Draft Pick
2017 Phoenix Suns First Round Draft Pick
Salary Out: $4,997,100
PHX Suns New Figure Against the Cap: $50,878,240
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 5, 2014 22:01:14 GMT
The Rockets accept the trade. We feel we are getting good value for Kawhi here, at a time where Kawhi's value is the highest it has ever been. I feel that I can draft a player with this pick of the same quality as Kawhi or better. Hawes is a center we have high high hopes for and have specifically targeted him in this deal.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 5, 2014 22:28:50 GMT
Pelicans pick could be Top 5, which gives it high value. It's definitely Top 10. Spencer Hawes is an above average talent. The Suns pick could be anywhere in the first round by 2017.
I still don't understand why rebuilding includes trading away a potentially superstar youngster, Sir Charles. I think it's a stupid thing to do and you'll regret it. You could easily get the Pelicans pick (or a comparable pick like Memphis or Utah) by trading Millsap and/or Gasol, if not directly then via a 3-team deal. That's sensible rebuilding - not that you even need to rebuild!
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 5, 2014 22:32:25 GMT
And to add more to my point... Houston would have a great team for the next 10 years if they just sat back and let Leonard, Oladipo and Bledsoe accrue rating changes.
I do understand wanting to make your mark on your team though, and Houston still has a lot of assets after this deal.
Phoenix wins the deal easily, but I accept. If the deal passes then congratulations on your potential franchise player for the next decade, Mr Majerle! And all because someone overrated picks all the way back in 2014.
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Post by Magic Johnson on Apr 5, 2014 22:34:48 GMT
Pelicans pick could be Top 5, which gives it high value. It's definitely Top 10. Spencer Hawes is an above average talent. The Suns pick could be anywhere in the first round by 2017. I still don't understand why rebuilding includes trading away a potentially superstar youngster, Sir Charles. I think it's a stupid thing to do and you'll regret it. You could easily get the Pelicans pick (or a comparable pick like Memphis or Utah) by trading Millsap and/or Gasol, if not directly then via a 3-team deal. That's sensible rebuilding - not that you even need to rebuild! True BOS dynastyfive.proboards.com/thread/1029/dallas-gsBOS you remember this one Oden/Durant draft. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 5, 2014 22:35:56 GMT
Pelicans pick could be Top 5, which gives it high value. It's definitely Top 10. Spencer Hawes is an above average talent. The Suns pick could be anywhere in the first round by 2017. I still don't understand why rebuilding includes trading away a potentially superstar youngster, Sir Charles. I think it's a stupid thing to do and you'll regret it. You could easily get the Pelicans pick (or a comparable pick like Memphis or Utah) by trading Millsap and/or Gasol, if not directly then via a 3-team deal. That's sensible rebuilding - not that you even need to rebuild! True BOS dynastyfive.proboards.com/thread/1029/dallas-gsBOS you remember this one Oden/Durant draft. Holy crap good memory Magic! edit: for extra points you can tell me what ended up happening with that pick!  |
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Post by Magic Johnson on Apr 5, 2014 22:41:17 GMT
Holy crap good memory Magic! edit: for extra points you can tell me what ended up happening with that pick! Oh yes it was perfect too If I recall correctly 1. NYK - Oden 2. SAC - Durant 3. someone - Horford/Green 4. DAL - Conley I had Conley and Williams (Jason) at that time. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 5, 2014 22:43:23 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 22:49:22 GMT
Well if we are being fair everyone thought Greg Oden was going to be a once in a lifetime type of Center. He was really freaking good.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 6, 2014 0:23:18 GMT
I feel exactly like Ian does honestly.
Charles, you are like the only person I've ever met who doesn't love Kawhi either now or his potential for the future...you don't like either. Crazy. But, again, I feel just like Ian for the most part here.
Also I'm actually a bit of a Spencer Hawes fan myself but I think Kawhi is definitely better than him...but you do get two 1sts and one is a lotto pick in a great draft so...
I'll Accept.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 3:59:55 GMT
Well if we are being fair everyone thought Greg Oden was going to be a once in a lifetime type of Center. He was really freaking good. He IS freakin' good when he plays. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 6, 2014 11:30:37 GMT
Accept
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Post by Dan Majerle on Apr 6, 2014 16:33:59 GMT
I accept this trade I really need a young player that I could build around.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 6, 2014 16:58:56 GMT
Accept. I like this return more than what Houston got giving up Kawhi and Millsap. It's not a bad trade for Phoenix though since he gets Kawhi.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Apr 7, 2014 17:22:37 GMT
I accept
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 7, 2014 17:54:31 GMT
Phoenix need to cut a player before this deal goes through.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 27, 2018 14:18:45 GMT
Houston would have a great team for the next 10 years if they just sat back and let Leonard, Oladipo and Bledsoe accrue rating changes  Kawhi 95 Oladipo 88 (after ratings change) Bledsoe 84 |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 3, 2018 1:44:49 GMT
Houston would have a great team for the next 10 years if they just sat back and let Leonard, Oladipo and Bledsoe accrue rating changes Kawhi 95 Oladipo 88 (after ratings change) Bledsoe 84 The picks in this trade turned in to Julius Randle and Jonathan Isaac. Still not as good as Kawhi is today, but this trade occurred pre-Finals MVP Kawhi. I wouldn't have Giannis without trading Bledsoe, that is for certain. I do not think anyone thought Oladipo was going to transform this season. Still, he and Capela were the basis for the Kevin Love deal. |
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