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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 5, 2014 4:24:13 GMT
Considering I voted to give Bogut an 81 and I am comfortable with that, I kinda feel like DeAndre definitely has to be up near there.
I've heard DeAndre isn't actually all that good of a defender. I don't get to watch him much, usually going to bed before I get a chance or busy with something else. His blocks are awesome, he gets more rebounds and points than Bogut, and they both suck at the FT Line.
I'll put in an 81 for now b/c of my Bogut rating, but I may look into him when I have more time and might change that.
EDIT: Bumping Rating to an 83 after more research. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 4:35:54 GMT
85 and I am CONVINCED he will be better than Dwight someday. If you watch him, you can see the improvement in his game. Basically, he always possessed the talent but Doc finally got him to quit doing stupid shit. Honestly, Doc Rivers should be Coach of the Year for his work with the Clippers.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 5, 2014 13:56:57 GMT
I'm with Vlade here. If you actually watch Clippers games, you can tell DeAndre is a huge reason for their success.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 5, 2014 16:11:08 GMT
83 deandre is beasting this year.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 5, 2014 19:24:24 GMT
I think Deandre Jordan is better than Carlos Boozer. Therefore I think Deandre should be rated accordingly. I think an 83 is good for Deandre.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 19:37:04 GMT
79, the guy still shoots like 40% from the FT line, only shoots 6 times a game, 1 ill advised post up miss, 2 made alleyoops that are only there because Blake and Paul are great passers. 2 put back dunks and like 6 missed FTs and 1 Made FTs thats how he gets his points. Seriously guys. He's a great player but he has VERY clear and defined flaws. I imagine that his physical stats are already through the roof and his FT is low as hell. Look at the Clippers player stat page. He does exactly what he does in real life, his FG% is a little lower but the Clips don't have Chris Paul on their team anymore so I wouldn't expect an offensively challenged player too have a great FT% without a great PG.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 5, 2014 20:02:31 GMT
He's played great this season, but he has no offensive skills apart from freak athleticism. I'll say like 81-82.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 20:06:02 GMT
This feels like the whole Bosh thread all over again!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 20:13:18 GMT
He's played great this season, but he has no offensive skills apart from freak athleticism. I'll say like 81-82. By this measure Derrick Favors should be an 81-82.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 20:15:06 GMT
85 and I am CONVINCED he will be better than Dwight someday. If you watch him, you can see the improvement in his game. Basically, he always possessed the talent but Doc finally got him to quit doing stupid shit. Honestly, Doc Rivers should be Coach of the Year for his work with the Clippers. Yeah, it is reminding me of the Bosh thread, just you saying a bunch of stupid shit that isn't backed up by any evidence what so ever.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 5, 2014 20:21:27 GMT
79, the guy still shoots like 40% from the FT line, only shoots 6 times a game, 1 ill advised post up miss, 2 made alleyoops that are only there because Blake and Paul are great passers. 2 put back dunks and like 6 missed FTs and 1 Made FTs thats how he gets his points. Seriously guys. He's a great player but he has VERY clear and defined flaws. I imagine that his physical stats are already through the roof and his FT is low as hell. Look at the Clippers player stat page. He does exactly what he does in real life, his FG% is a little lower but the Clips don't have Chris Paul on their team anymore so I wouldn't expect an offensively challenged player too have a great FT% without a great PG. While this is all true, his numbers are better this year across the board than last season. Which would mean he needs an increase. Its not his fault he is playing with a great PG and is, in turn, having a better year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 20:22:05 GMT
85 and I am CONVINCED he will be better than Dwight someday. If you watch him, you can see the improvement in his game. Basically, he always possessed the talent but Doc finally got him to quit doing stupid shit. Honestly, Doc Rivers should be Coach of the Year for his work with the Clippers. Yeah, it is reminding me of the Bosh thread, just you saying a bunch of stupid shit that isn't backed up by any evidence what so ever. I backed up the Bosh thread with all kinds of evidence but I am sorry if you can't read it. Again, notice I prefaced my statement about Jordan by acknowledging that it is indeed an opinion that I cannot back up.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 20:24:05 GMT
Yeah, it is reminding me of the Bosh thread, just you saying a bunch of stupid shit that isn't backed up by any evidence what so ever. I backed up the Bosh thread with all kinds of evidence but I am sorry if you can't read it. Again, notice I prefaced my statement about Jordan by acknowledging that it is indeed an opinion that I cannot back up. No you didn't. Because I showed how your evidence was only a starting point when it comes to evaluating players. And you have nothing that tells me that Josh Smith is as good a player as Bosh, while I have shown about 10 different ways that he is not even close to touching Bosh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 20:57:12 GMT
I backed up the Bosh thread with all kinds of evidence but I am sorry if you can't read it. Again, notice I prefaced my statement about Jordan by acknowledging that it is indeed an opinion that I cannot back up. No you didn't. Because I showed how your evidence was only a starting point when it comes to evaluating players. And you have nothing that tells me that Josh Smith is as good a player as Bosh, while I have shown about 10 different ways that he is not even close to touching Bosh. Am I speaking Chinese?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 7, 2014 16:13:53 GMT
I did a bit of research and looked through some of Hollinger's advance stats and I'm changing my rating to 84 but it all has to be in defense and athleticism.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Apr 8, 2014 11:32:16 GMT
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Apr 8, 2014 12:44:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:09:21 GMT
I did a bit of research and looked through some of Hollinger's advance stats and I'm changing my rating to 84 but it all has to be in defense and athleticism. I don't argue that at all, but he is the most athletic dude EVER!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:09:58 GMT
This thread is over a year old Vlade, go post in the new one I made!
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