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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 1, 2014 11:01:58 GMT
Wow, I'm really surprised Golden State are making this trade. Like... REALLY surprised. Well done Billy King!
I'm willing to accept, these are two strong teams.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Apr 1, 2014 12:12:34 GMT
wow.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 1, 2014 13:08:03 GMT
I'm still surprised in general that the Warriors would mess with what they have...BUT they are upgrading one of their big men by 11 points here, and are improving their "backup PG" by 3 points. They do move a great defensive wingman in Iggy so we'll see, that could really hurt them.
Overall though, I'll accept it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 13:41:48 GMT
I think he is trying to pound the wittle Sacramento Kings into the ground!
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Post by Tracy McGrady on Apr 1, 2014 14:04:31 GMT
Dang nice trade for NYC.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Apr 1, 2014 14:10:30 GMT
I accept
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Post by Magic Johnson on Apr 1, 2014 17:06:09 GMT
Interesting trade, GSW gonna upsize I suppose instead of using real life HOU rockets inside or jack 3's.
I suppose new starting lineup
PG Walker SG Curry SF Klay PF Gasol C Howard
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Post by Chris Mullin on Apr 2, 2014 0:35:01 GMT
I know, I know, if its not broke don't fix it. I know to some people it seems crazy for me to make any moves given the success we have had so far this season. However, I feel like this trade makes us better this season and for the future as well.
The way I look at the trade is Pau Gasol > Andre Iguodala. Both players are having somewhat down years and it looks like both are headed for ratings decreases. Iguodala is slated to be an 85 while Gasol will probably be somewhere in that neighborhood as well. With that in mind I would much rather have Gasol all things considered. I still feel like Gasol has a lot left in his tank.
The tough part was trading Michael Carter-Williams. He is going to be IRL the Rookie of the Year and has had a good season despite shooting awful percentages and has some serious upside as a 6'6 PG with great length. It was not any easy decision, but I feel like if I were to give up MCW, getting back Kemba Walker in exchange would make that an easier decision for me. I was only going to trade MCW if I was getting back another young guard under contract for at least 3 years and I get that with Walker. Also, despite being 5 inches shorter, Walker is a better scorer than MCW and is averaging almost the same amount of assists and rebounds IRL.
With Terrence Jones emerging, I do not need Brandon Bass and this was an opportunity to unload his contract to free up the cap space to try and resign Pau Gasol or possibly make a run at another top free agent. Overall I feel like this trade gives us a better shot at winning a D5 Title this season and that has been my #1 goal since taking over as Golden State GM.
I accept.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 2, 2014 0:58:27 GMT
I'm not sold on MCW, his biggest strength is how awful the other rookies have been. I would probably rather have Kemba, who is just a year older, but I'm not a big fan of him either. Then Gasol for Iggy is alright I guess. I think Gasol has a little ball left in him but he is expiring anyway so the Warriors could go after someone else with the free cap space if they want.
I accept.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 1:03:01 GMT
GS had the best team in the league. I really hope for you that it works out. Sometimes In this game one bad move changes everything. Wishing you lots of luck.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 2, 2014 1:08:39 GMT
I'll accept. Golden State definitely wins the trade, especially by being able to dump Bass, but Billy seems to have his heart set on it so its not worth rejecting. Gasol > Iggy, Kemba > MCW, No Bass > Bass The only troublesome thing is that Golden State has now essentially traded Omer Asik for Ray Allen
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Post by Alex English on Apr 2, 2014 2:00:22 GMT
1. Most impressive rookie? Amin Elhassan, ESPN Insider: Michael Carter-Williams . I thought he'd be good but not this quickly, mostly due to his poor perimeter shooting, but Carter-Williams has managed to shoot well enough to complement the rest of his game and allow himself to attack space. Defensively, he's been brilliant, with quick hands and excellent anticipation that is uncharacteristic of a rookie. Danny Nowell, TrueHoop Network: Michael Carter-Williams . Sure, he's in and out of the lineup, and sure he's not been (quite) as incendiary as he was in the season's opening days, but MCW remains the only player in this class who seems to have established his star credentials. Ethan Sherwood Strauss, TrueHoop: Michael Carter-Williams . He has far exceeded my modest expectations. The kid just needs to slightly improve his jumper, and he's a perennial future All-Star. He passes well, he's athletic, and he's big enough to guard wings. That's such a rare combination in the NBA. Tom Sunnergren, Hoop76: Michael Carter-Williams . The No. 11 pick leads all newcomers in points, assists, rebounds and steals (he's pacing the NBA in the latter category) and has carried the tanking Sixers to a 10-11 record when he's in the lineup. If MCW continues at this statistical clip, he'd become the second rookie in league history (post-merger) to average 17 points, 7 assists and 5 boards. The first? Magic Johnson. Jack Winter, Warriors World: Michael Carter-Williams . MCW's historic NBA debut -- 22 points, 7 rebounds, 12 assists, 9 steals -- against the defending champions was the stuff of legends, and raised expectations for his present and future from middling to mammoth. Exaggerated optimism gleaned from that performance was unfair from the beginning and has proven misguided, but that does little to change the surprisingly awesome impact he's made for Philadelphia this season. Well of course, who else are they going to pick? That's what my point is. But, he has a FG% of 39.3%, a 3P% of 25.9% and a FT% of 69.6%. Those are terrible numbers. That would probably get him benched if the Sixers weren't trying to be as awful as possible. But when games start to matter he won't have anywhere near the amount of free reign he has now. If he can't improve his offense then he could be like Tyreke Evans where his best stats year is his rookie year.
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Post by Magic Johnson on Apr 2, 2014 4:36:08 GMT
MCW: FG: .393, 3PT: .259, FT: .696, PPG: 16.5, APG 6.5 K-Durant: FG: .430, 3PT: .288, FT: .873, PPG: 20.3, APG 2.4 CP3: FG: .430, 3PT: .282, FT: .847, PPG: 16.1, APG: 7.8 Lebron: FG: .417, 3PT: .290, FT: .754, PPG: 20.9, APG: 5.9 Allen Iverson: FG: .416, 3PT: .341, FT: .702, PPG: 23.5, APG: 7.5 Jason Kidd: FG: .385, 3PT: .272, FT: .698, PPG: 11.7, APG: 7.7
He won't be any of these guys, but that doesn't mean MCW won't grow at all.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 2, 2014 18:24:34 GMT
Trade passed.
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