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Post by Masai Ujiri on Aug 20, 2013 2:22:34 GMT
To Toronto:
94 Kevin Durant $17,832,627 $18,995,624 $20,158,622
80 Kendrick Perkins $8,477,437 $9,154,342
Total Incoming Salary: $26,310,064
To Oklahoma City
83 Rudy Gay $17,888,931 $19,317,325
82 Serge Ibaka $3,187,808
80 Chauncey Billups $5,500,000 $6,460,500
TOR – 2015 1st Round Pick
Total Incoming Salary: $26,576,739
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 20, 2013 2:27:20 GMT
Toronto Raptors accept this deal. A lot of you might think im crazy for doing this but im looking at the future right now. During free agency a lot of people said my team wouldn’t make it far into the playoffs or even make the playoffs. When I got this team, it was dead last, had no sight of even making the playoffs. I made a great team at the end of the year and couldn’t wait to start the year again. Now looking at it, I have this core together for only one more year. Then what? Ellis walks or Ibaka walks. I keep one or lose both. This leaves me an old PG who’s rating will go down, Rudy Gay (who I love but is not kevin durant) and Hibbert. Do not get me wrong, I would still like the idea of Rudy Gay and Hibbert as the cornerstone of this team. But now after this trade, my future will be Kevin Durant and Roy Hibbert. I have a good chance now of signing Monta Ellis and do not need to worry about signing Ibaka. Yes I need a PG, Yes I need a true PF, but just as Vlad did last season, he went out and got westbrook, a superstar. He gave up his future for him and looks like it will work out for him. His team is going to be scary good this year and I applaud him for what he has done. Hibbert (hard to find good centers), Durant (no need to explain how good he is) is something I’m ready to work with. I have shown since coming in May I am committed to making this team work, and shown that I won’t walk out on anyone. Hopefully you guys agree with my work of art I have done here, and hopefully it does pan out for me. Very excited to see Kevin Durant in action for me this upcoming season. Just want to add one more thing, it is everyone dream to get Lebron, Wade and Durrant. I just landed one of them finally! My Projected Lineup PG: Monta Ellis SG: Micheal Redd SF: Kevin Durant PF: Kendrick Perkin C: Roy Hibbert There is still work to be done but its a start. plus: sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kevin-durant-wanted-play-toronto-raptors-kid-222412883--nba.html  got his wish! |
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Post by JJ Savage on Aug 20, 2013 2:27:37 GMT
I accept this trade. Although I'm trading arguably the best player in the league in Durant, I'm also finishing off my starting 5 and also getting a little bit younger as well. My starting 5 now looks like this
PG: Billups
SG: Evans
SF: Gay
PF: Ibaka
C: Cousins
Now I have Cousins at his natural position, and now i have a Front Court of Ibaka and Cousins, which will be dominant for years to come. I also acquire Gay, who is a stud in his own right. Billups, although old, will be the veteran presence I need on this team to lead this team to championship contention once again.
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Post by Otis Smith on Aug 20, 2013 2:33:02 GMT
Well, damn.
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Aug 20, 2013 2:34:04 GMT
Mhmm Back to back blockbuster trades in one week. |
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Post by Otis Smith on Aug 20, 2013 2:35:21 GMT
Mhmm Back to back blockbuster trades in one week. This is a bit different then trading Jrue Holiday my friend This is crazy. |
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Aug 20, 2013 2:36:34 GMT
Mhmm Back to back blockbuster trades in one week. This is a bit different then trading Jrue Holiday my friend This is crazy. I agree. I wasn't comparing the two trades, but still two pretty big trades within a couple of days. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 20, 2013 2:42:25 GMT
I'm going to reject. Gay, nor Ibaka are good enough to move Durant for, end of story. Doesn't really matter what other pieces you throw around them, including each other, that is just not a good enough package for Durant.
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Post by JJ Savage on Aug 20, 2013 2:42:30 GMT
You have no idea how much it took me to trade KD. I didn't want to at all, but after losing Deron. I had a void at PG, and i needed to round out my starting 5.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 20, 2013 2:44:29 GMT
this fills out OKC lineup and puts me into a position to build around Durant and Hibbert. What is equal value for durant? is anything? I gave him a SF who is good and PF who is good and a PG who still has game. He gets a pick who as you guys saw has been a top pick back to back years. There is just no value for Durant. It was hard for me to give up 2 core guys for him and now my lineup is all over the place.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 2:45:10 GMT
Hell I will give you whatever two players you want off my team for Durant! This is a RAPEEEEE
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Post by JJ Savage on Aug 20, 2013 2:45:31 GMT
I disagree with Walt here. I have a plan for my team after losing Deron, and Toronto has a plan to rebuild his team. NO REASON why this trade should be rejected. End of story.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 20, 2013 2:48:17 GMT
the westbroke trade is a great example, Vlad gave up young guys who are not proven as yet but hype. I just gave up two guys who have already establish themselves in the nba no? How can this be rejected.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 2:50:03 GMT
I think those of us that are not in this trade to stay out. I always get bitched at, but lets let just the CMs comment. Trading Durant is a blockbuster In itself...
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Aug 20, 2013 2:55:53 GMT
I would think my offer of Deng+Alridge is better than Gay+Ibaka  |
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 20, 2013 3:00:56 GMT
everyone here is going to say i could of offered so and so and so and so on but at the end of the day i was the one who was able to link this deal. JJ was looking for a PG - SF AND PF. Could anyone here offer the same package i just offered and wont cripple your team? JJ had to do his due diligence before doing this trade, we were talking for a few days and it was hesitant of each side. We have two gms here who have been active, been doing everything they can to be part of this. If anyone else made this trade there will be bitching and yelling since its Durant. But this package is not horrible for Durant.
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Aug 20, 2013 3:11:34 GMT
I agree w Walt. I don't believe Gay/Ibaka are nearly good enough to move Durant. I too reject.
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Post by Kevin Ware on Aug 20, 2013 3:15:07 GMT
You have no idea how much it took me to trade KD. I didn't want to at all, but after losing Deron. I had a void at PG, and i needed to round out my starting 5. One simply doesn't trade Kevin Durant to round out their roster.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 3:16:41 GMT
I agree w Walt. I don't believe Gay/Ibaka are nearly good enough to move Durant. I too reject. I hate jumping in, but Billups is a great sim player and still a guy that gets 25+ mins on an NBA team. You guys want to ignore him all together. If it was Ibaka, Billups and another player other than Gay and his overpaid Salary I wouldn't see a problem with it. But let's let gms run their own teams.. |
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Post by Alex English on Aug 20, 2013 3:17:01 GMT
Rudy Gay is inefficient and overrated, he is a good player but not elite. Serge Ibaka will be a free agent after the year and could easily walk like Deron did. Chauncey Billups is washed up, he's basically just a rating at this point, and he should get a rating decrease. The draft pick isn't very valuable since it will be a late 1st rounder.
OKC gives up the second best player on planet earth and doesn't get back a single asset with high long term value. I reject.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 3:19:19 GMT
Rudy Gay is inefficient and overrated, he is a good player but not elite. Serge Ibaka will be a free agent after the year and could easily walk like Deron did. Chauncey Billups is washed up, he's basically just a rating at this point, and he should get a rating decrease. The draft pick isn't very valuable since it will be a late 1st rounder. OKC gives up the second best player on planet earth and doesn't get back a single asset with high long term value. I reject. Agreed except Billups isn't washed up... |
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 20, 2013 3:20:21 GMT
cant wait till the next Durant trade gets posted if any. OKC loses Deron William he tries and fix his roster with one trade. Doesnt matter this trade will get rejected now and now i get screwed over again. I lose out on Kemba walker for Ibaka which was a fair trade and now bobcat loses its key part of that trade. Now this, fuck man, sorry its just frustrating when im trying to do something with my team and not allowed to do it.
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Post by Kevin Ware on Aug 20, 2013 3:23:20 GMT
Gay has never been an all-star and is nothing more than a good player...
Ibaka is and always will be a solid starter/rim protector...
Billups is a former all-star who can still contribute but is past his prime...
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Durant is the 2nd best player in the NBA, a Yearly All-Star Starter/MVP candidate, 3 time scoring champion, and the face of USA Basketball
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 20, 2013 3:23:26 GMT
cant wait till the next Durant trade gets posted if any. OKC loses Deron William he tries and fix his roster with one trade. Doesnt matter this trade will get rejected now and now i get screwed over again. I lose out on Kemba walker for Ibaka which was a fair trade and now bobcat loses its key part of that trade. Now this, fuck man, sorry its just frustrating when im trying to do something with my team and not allowed to do it. Bryan you didn't do anything wrong, JJ just should never have said yes to trading Durant for that. Trade was awesome for you, you just have to stop "trade raping" people :-p |
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Post by Alex English on Aug 20, 2013 3:24:39 GMT
Rudy Gay is inefficient and overrated, he is a good player but not elite. Serge Ibaka will be a free agent after the year and could easily walk like Deron did. Chauncey Billups is washed up, he's basically just a rating at this point, and he should get a rating decrease. The draft pick isn't very valuable since it will be a late 1st rounder. OKC gives up the second best player on planet earth and doesn't get back a single asset with high long term value. I reject. Agreed except Billups isn't washed up... Maybe washed up is too strong, but at this point in his career he is nothing but a role player. |
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Post by JJ Savage on Aug 20, 2013 3:26:14 GMT
I agree Bryan, and this is exactly why I think the Trade Committee is ridiculous. GM's have a plan with their teams. Like it or not, the people who accept or reject these trades, aren't the ones trading and making plans. Everyone has different opinions on different players, but it is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 4:28:31 GMT
I agree Bryan, and this is exactly why I think the Trade Committee is ridiculous. GM's have a plan with their teams. Like it or not, the people who accept or reject these trades, aren't the ones trading and making plans. Everyone has different opinions on different players, but it is what it is. You are much dumber than I thought, after years of being in sims with you, if you think this trade benefits you in any way, shape, or form. |
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Post by Chris Mullin on Aug 20, 2013 4:41:20 GMT
I wonder how many trade offers for Durant OKC has received since this trade has been rejected.
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Post by Kevin Ware on Aug 20, 2013 4:53:31 GMT
I wonder how many trade offers for Durant OKC has received since this trade has been rejected. Do you think OKC would be interested in a Otto Porter for Durant swap? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 20, 2013 8:55:55 GMT
cant wait till the next Durant trade gets posted if any. OKC loses Deron William he tries and fix his roster with one trade. Doesnt matter this trade will get rejected now and now i get screwed over again. I lose out on Kemba walker for Ibaka which was a fair trade and now bobcat loses its key part of that trade. Now this, fuck man, sorry its just frustrating when im trying to do something with my team and not allowed to do it. I know it's exciting when someone accepts a trade as lopsided as this one and is actually dumb enough to post it and accept it, but nothing is set in stone until it's passed the committee. I understand it's a huge let down, this trade would've been a huge coup d'etat for you, but it's just a crazy lopsided trade and we wouldn't be doing our jobs if we accepted it. *Everyone* else is laughing at the trade, that's a good sign it's not just the TC but pretty much the entire league in agreement. I agree Bryan, and this is exactly why I think the Trade Committee is ridiculous. GM's have a plan with their teams. Like it or not, the people who accept or reject these trades, aren't the ones trading and making plans. Everyone has different opinions on different players, but it is what it is. Embracing mediocrity is not the hallmark of sound GMing. You've got a choice right now, since you didn't properly plan ahead for re-signing Deron Williams, between: a). Keeping Durant, the once in a generation talent, almost guaranteed Top 50/60 player all-time, probably has the highest trade value in the league right now because he also has youth on his side, and working with the pieces that are around him, including all your cap space, to fill the hole left by Deron and remaining in championship contention for the next 10 years. Maybe keep your cap space and trade around Perkins and Evans to see what you can get and wait til next season to land Steph Curry, Jrue Holiday or even Paul Pierce or Kobe Bryant. b). Trading Durant for middle-of-the-road, above-average talent like Gay and Ibaka and foundering as a low seed playoff team for the foreseeable future, unlikely to rebuild properly until you trade those pieces away. If you choose the second option I am actually willing to throw my hands up and say fine, go ahead and give other teams the chance to contend, because your team will not be destroyed and newbie GMs could come in and work with what you've got if you leave at any time. My main concern is to stop teams from self destructing and the league becoming a graveyard, and you've got so much talent it's a long way from that point. However it's not going to make a difference now anyway. I wonder how many trade offers for Durant OKC has received since this trade has been rejected. Do you think OKC would be interested in a Otto Porter for Durant swap? Can't rule out the potential upside there  |
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