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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 21:31:23 GMT
Houston Trades:
80 Gilbert Arenas $4,000,000 $4,000,000(TO)
70 Elliot Williams $1,442,880 $2,373,538(TO) $3,436,882
68 Cory Joseph $1,074,720 $1,120,920(TO) $2,023,261(TO) $3,034,091
16th pick 2013 #1 - $1,371,200 - $1,432,900 - $1,494,600 - $2,292,716 - $3,221,267
20th pick 2013 #1 - $1,134,500 - $1,185,600 - $1,236,600 - $1,906,837 - $2,732,498
San Antonio Trades:
76 Ed Davis $2,207,040 $3,153,860(TO) $4,361,789
73 Wesley Johnson $4,285,560 $5,421,233(TO) $7,150,607
64 Doron Lamb $500,000 $600,000 $700,000(TO)
Nets 2014 #1
Raptors 2015 #2
As GM of the Spurs I Accept
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Post by Otis Smith on Jul 12, 2013 22:02:01 GMT
I accept
I get a legit rotation player and a pick in a deep draft
Plus I still have my cap space due to the fact that I will decline the team option on Wesley Johnson.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 22:03:31 GMT
I really don't want Alex to get Wiggins... Damnit... I think this is a pretty good deal for the Spurs. |
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Post by Alex English on Jul 12, 2013 22:22:38 GMT
Gilbert Arenas will be removed from the game after this season will he not? He should be since he hasn't been in the league in over a year. If for some reason he isn't then his rating should be dropped by like 10 points anyway. Considering that kind of changes the complexion of this trade. JR gives up his two most valuable players for basically two mid 1st round picks in a weak draft and an average prospect in Cory Joseph. That's not exactly a good return...
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Post by Alex English on Jul 12, 2013 22:25:50 GMT
Haha wait. Forget about that. It's Wesley Johnson not Wesley Mathews, my mistake. Still not a good trade, but it's not too awful for the Spurs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 22:27:31 GMT
Gilbert Arenas will be removed from the game after this season will he not? He should be since he hasn't been in the league in over a year. If for some reason he isn't then his rating should be dropped by like 10 points anyway. Considering that kind of changes the complexion of this trade. JR gives up his two most valuable players for basically two mid 1st round picks in a weak draft and an average prospect in Cory Joseph. That's not exactly a good return... This trade again is fair and by rules. I have the choice of declining all 3 players if I chose. Arenas is my fav player no matter the past. If he gets taken out of the game do be it I still save cap, but if he should many others should. It's not like his game is keeping him from returning. Give him the decrease but its not 10pts. He's still better than half the players I'm the 70 ratings. If the trades fair that's my choice. I'm trying to rebuild after a screwed up season. There's no reason not to accept. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 22:37:33 GMT
Gilbert Arenas will be removed from the game after this season will he not? He should be since he hasn't been in the league in over a year. If for some reason he isn't then his rating should be dropped by like 10 points anyway. Considering that kind of changes the complexion of this trade. JR gives up his two most valuable players for basically two mid 1st round picks in a weak draft and an average prospect in Cory Joseph. That's not exactly a good return... Yet if this trade passes you just keep moving up the stepping stones to Andrew Wiggins  I agree 100% that players that haven't played in the NBA for a certain amount of time (say two years?) should be removed from D5. I'm very concerned about the future of the San Antonio Spurs. It's not my organization, but it's a shame to see a team that was in the playoffs each year to turn into this... Look fag you always have shit to say and back out of trades. You are the newbie to the league and there have been some issues on why my team is the way it is. Mind your fuckin business. It's not like your teams a contender. Lets see who has a better team I'm the end. And don't worry about the Spurs. They are my team. Just like when you made threads for my team when I left for one day...Mind Your Damn Business!! Seriously... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 22:40:33 GMT
Kind of bullshit he offers me...
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I want to help the San Antonio Spurs become victorious again.
I'm going to offer you Luis Scola for Wesley Matthews straight up.
Luis Scola will offer you a poor man's Tim Duncan's gameplay style. Rebounding, providing points, and doing all of the little things.
This trade will be straight up, no other players and no draft picks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 22:49:36 GMT
Gilbert Arenas will be removed from the game after this season will he not? He should be since he hasn't been in the league in over a year. If for some reason he isn't then his rating should be dropped by like 10 points anyway. Considering that kind of changes the complexion of this trade. JR gives up his two most valuable players for basically two mid 1st round picks in a weak draft and an average prospect in Cory Joseph. That's not exactly a good return... In my honest opinion the Spurs need to get young talent on cheap contracts and hope they work out and clear space. In my opinion, this trade gives the Spurs a chance to this. I bet JR would love it if Arenas retired, and if he doesn't you might role with him for one more year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 22:51:06 GMT
Gilbert Arenas will be removed from the game after this season will he not? He should be since he hasn't been in the league in over a year. If for some reason he isn't then his rating should be dropped by like 10 points anyway. Considering that kind of changes the complexion of this trade. JR gives up his two most valuable players for basically two mid 1st round picks in a weak draft and an average prospect in Cory Joseph. That's not exactly a good return... Yet if this trade passes you just keep moving up the stepping stones to Andrew Wiggins I agree 100% that players that haven't played in the NBA for a certain amount of time (say two years?) should be removed from D5. I'm very concerned about the future of the San Antonio Spurs. It's not my organization, but it's a shame to see a team that was in the playoffs each year to turn into this... If Arenas stays an 80 I would think that helps the Spurs, but no matter he needs to worry about his team and not others. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 22:56:23 GMT
Gilbert Arenas will be removed from the game after this season will he not? He should be since he hasn't been in the league in over a year. If for some reason he isn't then his rating should be dropped by like 10 points anyway. Considering that kind of changes the complexion of this trade. JR gives up his two most valuable players for basically two mid 1st round picks in a weak draft and an average prospect in Cory Joseph. That's not exactly a good return... In my honest opinion the Spurs need to get young talent on cheap contracts and hope they work out and clear space. In my opinion, this trade gives the Spurs a chance to this. I bet JR would love it if Arenas retired, and if he doesn't you might role with him for one more year. Not sure. I may wait till after next season. No way he drops 10pts. And he's not retired from the NBA yet. Your right the only way to rebuild is this way and others always want to comment but not accept/decline. I have huge salaries to rid of and that won't happen so I have to build how I can. Billy King- the reason I have older player contracts--that's because last season I was a contender... But oh well things didn't go as planned. Can't wait for something like this to happen to some of you. Let me remind you if I would have retained TD we would be contending in the West. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 23:47:07 GMT
I don't think its about whether or not a player is retired but rather we can't determine how he would play or what kind of health condition he would be in if he was playing in the NBA today. I'll let this thread re-focus back on the trade proposal though. If Arenas played In the league again he would still b better than half the players. Plus he's still getting paid! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 23:55:56 GMT
If Arenas played In the league again he would still b better than half the players. Plus he's still getting paid! If Michael Jordan still played in the league again he would still be better than half the players. If Larry Bird still played in the league again he would still be better than half the players. If Dennis Rodman still played in the league again he would still be better than half the players. If Hakeem Olajuwon still played in the league again he would still be better than half the players. If Magic Johnson still played in the league again he would still be better than half the players. You see what I'm doing? It's all speculation. You can't disprove me nor can I disprove you. The fact of the matter is though, if Gilbert Arenas would really be better than half the players in the league, why aren't teams pursuing him? Don't give me the excuse of "attitude" when we have players like Andrew Bynum and Dwight Howard or the worst of all, DeMarcus Cousins playing in the league. If he's still getting paid he can't be removed, but I'm sure he may be now. |
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Post by Alex English on Jul 13, 2013 0:29:11 GMT
If he's still getting paid he can't be removed Hmm, good point. On that note, I'd like to sign Zydrunas Ilgauskas to a 1 year contract! Other players you may want to sign include: Allen Iverson Antonio McDyess Morris Peterson Charlie Bell Jeff Foster Eduardo Najera Jason Williams Get your offers in quickly! Semi-retired players no longer in the NBA are a hot commodity and are going fast! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 0:31:24 GMT
AI would look great off my bench!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 0:53:39 GMT
If he's still getting paid he can't be removed Hmm, good point. On that note, I'd like to sign Zydrunas Ilgauskas to a 1 year contract! Other players you may want to sign include: Allen Iverson Antonio McDyess Morris Peterson Charlie Bell Jeff Foster Eduardo Najera Jason Williams Get your offers in quickly! Semi-retired players no longer in the NBA are a hot commodity and are going fast! by AN NBA TEAM!!! |
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Post by Alex English on Jul 13, 2013 1:05:04 GMT
Hmm, good point. On that note, I'd like to sign Zydrunas Ilgauskas to a 1 year contract! Other players you may want to sign include: Allen Iverson Antonio McDyess Morris Peterson Charlie Bell Jeff Foster Eduardo Najera Jason Williams Get your offers in quickly! Semi-retired players no longer in the NBA are a hot commodity and are going fast! by AN NBA TEAM!!! All those guys are getting paid an NBA team. There are a whole lot more of them too. Here you go: espn.go.com/nba/salaries/_/page/1The ones with "null Unknown" listed as their team are the guys that apply. The first one is on page 4. |
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Post by Otis Smith on Jul 13, 2013 1:31:02 GMT
I think the most important thing regarding arenas is that his deal has a team option for the last year and JR could choose to decline it and gain more cap space.
Both williams and arenas will save JR about 6 million in cap space and get him closer to his rebuild.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 13, 2013 1:48:25 GMT
Houston Trades: 80 Gilbert Arenas $4,000,000 $4,000,000(TO) 70 Elliot Williams $1,442,880 $2,373,538(TO) $3,436,882 San Antonio Trades: 73 Wesley Johnson $4,285,560 $5,421,233(TO) $7,150,607 64 Doron Lamb $500,000 $600,000 $700,000(TO) Raptors 2015 #2 As GM of the Spurs I Accept I think Nets 2014 1st and this year's 16th pick are close enough to wash out. Ed Davis for the 20th pick this year...eh don't love it but close enough I'd give it a pass. Maybe Cory Joseph is added in to make up for that value? Wes Johnson can be declined this coming year, Lamb is super cheap, and the 2nd is whatever - Arenas can be declined and Elliot Williams can be declined. Overall I'm not sure I would do this if I'm the Spurs, might want to just take a chance on the loaded 2014 class, but it's not a reject for me. Accept. |
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jul 13, 2013 2:12:21 GMT
I was under the impression that someone like Arenas would either be removed, or get a rating decrease.
Where is Ian to distinguish the fire?
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Jul 13, 2013 2:50:34 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 13, 2013 7:39:44 GMT
Arenas will indeed be removed from the league after this season, so SAS gets a bit of cap space from that, although he'll still be over the cap next season.
This gives the Spurs two first round picks in a weak draft, in exchange for (probably) a mid-first round pick in a strong draft. I imagine Houston doesn't have anyone in mind they want to pick at 16 and 20.
JR - do you have some players in mind for those picks?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 7:53:46 GMT
Arenas will indeed be removed from the league after this season, so SAS gets a bit of cap space from that, although he'll still be over the cap next season. This gives the Spurs two first round picks in a weak draft, in exchange for (probably) a mid-first round pick in a strong draft. I imagine Houston doesn't have anyone in mind they want to pick at 16 and 20. JR - do you have some players in mind for those picks? Why would I trade away two decent players if I didn't. |
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Post by Otis Smith on Jul 13, 2013 17:11:52 GMT
Arenas will indeed be removed from the league after this season, so SAS gets a bit of cap space from that, although he'll still be over the cap next season. This gives the Spurs two first round picks in a weak draft, in exchange for (probably) a mid-first round pick in a strong draft. I imagine Houston doesn't have anyone in mind they want to pick at 16 and 20. JR - do you have some players in mind for those picks? No I had a couple people in mind but I think ed davis is better than anyone who would be left at 16 or 20 and that I wanted to perserve as much cap space as possible. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 20:30:47 GMT
Rookies do not count against the cap.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 13, 2013 23:12:17 GMT
Well not until the season starts Vlade.
I honestly think, even down at picks 16 and 20, in this particular draft, you are getting players very similar in value to players that will be picked around picks 10-12. Maybe that's not saying much, but basically there are useful players throughout most of the 1st round, with a couple guys with more potential at the very top...but other than that it's not a huge drop-off once you get past the top...10? picks or so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 1:53:08 GMT
Bump:)
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Jul 14, 2013 2:27:11 GMT
accept
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 4:40:16 GMT
That's 3 acceptances.
Thanks to those CMs that voted. I still don't get how you can be a CM and run your mouth but not complete your job. Then idiots like King who always runs their mouth and havent even completed a whole season yet...
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 14, 2013 8:38:39 GMT
Steady on JR.
Trade passed.
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