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Post by Bryan Colangelo on May 24, 2013 19:15:27 GMT
To Detroit Pistons
84| John Wall - $5,915,880 - $6,674,574 - $8,676,946
82| David West- $10,000,000
77| Rudy Fernandez - $3,187,808
69| D.J. White - $3,001,751
Total Incoming: 22,105,439
Total Outgoing: 22,932,139
To Toronto Raptors
86| Joe Johnson $19,752,646 $21,466,719 $23,180,792 $24,894,865
83| Brandon Jennings $3,179,493 $4,330,469
Total Incoming: 22,932,139
Total Outgoing: 22,105,439
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on May 24, 2013 19:15:44 GMT
I accpet. Theres my SG.
Joe Jonshon still a good player and Jennings and Walll switch wont hurt me. I acutally like Jennings more than Wall. No need for West for my team, wanted to keep Zbo with Hibbert. I will have around 16 million in cap space that will be used to re-sign hibbert and then the rest can do to my SF and bench. As i said i work slow but i get the job done. Also i am assuming my other trade past with David West since i got 3 yes, so im posting this trade now.
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Post by Zach Cohen on May 24, 2013 19:38:52 GMT
I certainly accept. This is such a great trade for both teams, I get great young talentand trade positions with Jenninhs for Wall who I like more. And he recieves a combo that was putting in mad work. Plus I unload the terrible Johnson contract and get West for a steal.
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Post by Zach Cohen on May 25, 2013 16:19:15 GMT
bump
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Post by Alex English on May 25, 2013 16:32:16 GMT
I'm not a big fan of this for Toronto. I really don't like Brandon Jennings, I think he is very over-rated. Joe Johnson also has a huge contract and he's only an average starting SG these days. But then for the other side, White is irrelevant, Rudy went back to Spain, and West is expiring. So he has a bunch of issues to deal with too. I don't know I guess I'll accept. John Wall is by far the most valuable player in the trade though. Hopefully Detroit will hang on to him if this trade goes through.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 25, 2013 16:35:51 GMT
Detroit - What's so good about David West when you have Okafor and Monroe in your lineup? Who's going to be your starting shooting guard, Kyle Korver?
Zach, what's your plan as a GM? Do you have one? Are you just pulling the trigger on trades whenever they land in your lap?
The Trade Committee have been chatting together discussing whether to put a trade freeze on you (and on Golden State) because you don't think before you trade. The Pistons was cared for by their previous GM for over a year before you arrived and now you're firing off trades, one a day.
The reason we have a committee before allowing trades is to stop GMs from destroying their team and then leaving because they're bored, leaving behind an enormous mess that harms the league we work hard for and never letting it enter your mind the shit you've left behind. It's hugely frustrating because it takes the league literally *years* to recover.
I reject.
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Post by Zach Cohen on May 25, 2013 16:48:54 GMT
Detroit - What's so good about David West when you have Okafor and Monroe in your lineup? Who's going to be your starting shooting guard, Kyle Korver? Zach, what's your plan as a GM? Do you have one? Are you just pulling the trigger on trades whenever they land in your lap? The Trade Committee have been chatting together discussing whether to put a trade freeze on you (and on Golden State) because you don't think before you trade. The Pistons was cared for by their previous GM for over a year before you arrived and now you're firing off trades, one a day. The reason we have a committee before allowing trades is to stop GMs from destroying their team and then leaving because they're bored, leaving behind an enormous mess that harms the league we work hard for and never letting it enter your mind the shit you've left behind. It's hugely frustrating because it takes the league literally *years* to recover. I reject. Your rejection is asanine? I took over this team with a terrible job being done before me. Johnsons cobtract is outrageous for me so I want to unload it. I am not just pulling a trade trigger, I am taking my team in the direction I want. And I have Monroe,West,and Okafor but I also have alot of trade possiblities for a good SG the time comes |
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Post by Ian Noble on May 25, 2013 16:53:34 GMT
If that genuinely is a question then no, my rejection is not asinine and my concern and anger are well founded upon a long experience of running sim leagues.
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Post by Zach Cohen on May 25, 2013 17:08:53 GMT
If that genuinely is a question then no, my rejection is not asinine and my concern and anger are well founded upon a long experience of running sim leagues. No, that was a retorical question. And I do understand where you are coming from with your hesitation, but you have to understand I am not an idiot and for the future of my team I believe this trade is best for me, I get rid of Johnson and his contract and get an excellent John Wall for my franchise player, Korver or bibby can start for the time being and do a decent job as well, please reconsider |
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Post by Glenn Robinson on May 25, 2013 20:28:24 GMT
I reject
Johnson is getting to be over the hill and has a massive contract. Don't even get me started on Jennings. He is a cancer and can't shoot worth a lick. I'm glad I moved him for Brandon Knight when I had the chance. He is nowhere near the level of John Wall who could be really good if injuries don't hinder him anymore.
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 26, 2013 2:58:51 GMT
I actually reject this too, basically along the lines of Milwaukee though I don't quite think Jennings is as bad as he says.
But, the Joe Johnson contract for a guy who is playing like an 81-82 rated player lately...whew! Honestly Detroit should not be getting back as much as he is (Wall & Cap Flexibility) for giving up Johnson.
Maybe I'm too far down on Johnson, it's not that he's a bad player, but he's being paid over twice as much what a similar player got on the open market this year in our league (Carl Crawford), and I only gave Crawford that much to lock him in for only a one year contract.
Johnson is a killer. I don't blame Detroit for this at all, but I guess we all have different opinions.
That said, the fact that people are rejecting both sides of this trade either means it's very bad or maybe could be fair?
I just can't accept it based on how much it hurts Toronto.
Reject.
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Post by Zach Cohen on May 26, 2013 4:35:28 GMT
Now I understand the reason for the committee, but this is getting out of hand. I take the differing opinions to mean this trade can be very fair depending on your outlook. I took over a team tha had some potential and I am trying to put my team in the best position for years to come. And if Toronto finds this deal fair then I believe this deal should be passed just on the simple fact that both sides have reasonable upsides for the trade and very convincing reasons to make this. Please please reconsider your decisions if you reject
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Post by Glenn Robinson on May 26, 2013 12:54:01 GMT
Sorry Detroit. 3 rejects.
Trade Rejected
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on May 26, 2013 17:32:37 GMT
question i would like to ask. Are trade committee allowed to change there mind after voting?
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Post by Zach Cohen on May 26, 2013 17:52:56 GMT
This is fucking ridiculous
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Post by Ian Noble on May 26, 2013 18:11:09 GMT
question i would like to ask. Are trade committee allowed to change there mind after voting? Yep. |
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on May 26, 2013 18:13:10 GMT
ah kk just wondering.
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