Derrick White

[Sam Presti]

It's time... the stock watch you've all been waiting for.

Current Rating: 78

23-24 Season Stats:

16.4 pts / 4.1 rebs / 5.2 asts / 1.1 stls  / 1.3 blks (20th)
48% FG / 41.2% 3pt / 89.8% FT (8th!) / 64.1% TS (21st)

That's the basics.  Let's dig a little deeper.


ORtg 130 (16th) / DRtg 111 

4.4 WS (15th) / 2.7 OWS (17th) / 1.6 DWS (26th) / .198 WS/48 (12th)
5.3 BPM (15th) / 3.3 OBPM (30th) / 2.0 DBPM (13th) / 1.9 VORP (18th)



"But Sam," you say, "these are all just basic box score stats, I like REAL advanced stats."

My friend, you're in for a treat.



3.66 LEBRON WAR (13th) / 3.59 LEBRON (13th) / 2.22 O-LEBRON (26th) / 1.37 D-LEBRON (30th)

(For some context, D-LeBron favors bigs pretty heavily, with 26 of the higher rated players in the category holding a PF or C designation, a guard being top 30 is very noteworthy)



Did I mention this guy plays for the best team in the league?  At 28-8 they currently have a 2 game lead on everybody.



"More advanced stats!" you say...  

+5.5 EPM (9th!) / +3.3 OFF EPM (27th) / +2.3 DEF EPM (22nd) / 5.8 EPM EW (12th)



"I don't know, Sam.  This is a lot of stats and I like the eye test."

Shut up, you know he passes the eye test.


If you're counting, that's no less than 20 hugely important statistical / advanced statistical categories in which he ranks at minimum top 30 (left off a handful that were just outside of the top 30 to save us both time), 9 of those he ranks at least top 15 and a couple times showing up in the top 10, including an extremely strong showing in EPM.


Less than 20% of his 3s are assisted, he makes 50% of his corner 3s, he's shooting awesome from everywhere on the floor...

He's got an assist-to-turnover ratio greater than 3.0.  He has a very above average 22.1% assist percentage for a player whose minutes register mostly as a shooting guard (the ast% clocks in at 54th in the league with only 10 SGs appearing above him and every single one of them has a usage% at least 4 points higher than his 19.3).. 

His Team has Jrue Holiday, Jaylen Brown, and Jayson Tatum... all guys you'd trust with the ball in their hands... and still he tends to be the go-to primary ball handler not just early in the game but especially down the stretch.  He hits clutch shots against strong defenders off the dribble, consistently takes on important defensive assignments, and most important he's going to make the right play to help his team win basketball games almost every time he touches the ball:






Suggested Rating: 84

[Jerry West]

82

[Dell Demps]

83

[Jared Montini]

Gonna go 83

[George Gervin]

82.5

[Arvydas Sabonis]

83

[Chauncey Billups]

81

[Walt Frazier]

83.5

[Steve Nash]

82

[Brad Stevens]

85.7

[Brian Scalabrine]

83

[Tom Izzo]

84

[Andrei Kirilenko]

85.7

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

85.7

[Chauncey Billups]

Edwards got some 86 votes and Derrick White is getting 85.7. This league is a joke 🤣🤣🤣

[Chauncey Billups]

Derrick White his last 5 games:

8.2 pts / 4.6 reb / 3.4 ast / .304 FG% / .26 3P%

💀

[Sam Presti]

Jan 12, 2024 1:39:48 GMT Chauncey Billups said:

Edwards got some 86 votes and Derrick White is getting 85.7. This league is a joke 🤣🤣🤣

LOL relax, even with the 85.7s White is probably going to finish at an 83 and even with the 86 votes (partially brought on by posting so early in the season) Ant still got an 87.

Also the completely meaningless 5 game sample you called out includes three blow outs (two wins and a loss) where he’s averaging about 10 less minutes than his season mpg average because he basically didn’t touch the court in the fourth quarter in any of those, which is when he’s done a lot of his best work this season. It’s circumstantial more than a cold stretch and regardless it’s corresponded with some of JB and JTs most selfish games of the season.

[Chauncey Billups]

Jan 12, 2024 4:09:59 GMT Sam Presti said:

Jan 12, 2024 1:39:48 GMT Chauncey Billups said:

Edwards got some 86 votes and Derrick White is getting 85.7. This league is a joke 🤣🤣🤣

LOL relax, even with the 85.7s White is probably going to finish at an 83 and even with the 86 votes (partially brought on by posting so early in the season) Ant still got an 87.

Also the completely meaningless 5 game sample you called out includes three blow outs (two wins and a loss) where he’s averaging about 10 less minutes than his season mpg average because he basically didn’t touch the court in the fourth quarter in any of those, which is when he’s done a lot of his best work this season. It’s circumstantial more than a cold stretch and regardless it’s corresponded with some of JB and JTs most selfish games of the season.

Yeah, it’s my fault that people voted 84-86 on Edwards based on people’s weird, arbitrary BS that it’s too early to put in a stockwatch 🤣

And your second point really grinds my gears and is completely hypocritical. Edwards was injured and was roughly affected for 5 games, where on one of those games he saw a total of 3 minutes of action. But we didn’t discount that, even though that’s circumstantial. Even so, with your argument that they were blowouts, and JT and JB were being selfish, Derrick White’s FG%s were really bad, which shouldn’t have been affected by a blowout, regardless of lower counting stats. 

According to everybody here, you can’t pick and choose what’s meaningful and what’s not, so those last 5 games from Derrick White are not meaningless. 

[Sam Presti]

Jan 12, 2024 15:03:20 GMT Chauncey Billups said:

Jan 12, 2024 4:09:59 GMT Sam Presti said:

LOL relax, even with the 85.7s White is probably going to finish at an 83 and even with the 86 votes (partially brought on by posting so early in the season) Ant still got an 87.

Also the completely meaningless 5 game sample you called out includes three blow outs (two wins and a loss) where he’s averaging about 10 less minutes than his season mpg average because he basically didn’t touch the court in the fourth quarter in any of those, which is when he’s done a lot of his best work this season. It’s circumstantial more than a cold stretch and regardless it’s corresponded with some of JB and JTs most selfish games of the season.

Yeah, it’s my fault that people voted 84-86 on Edwards based on people’s weird, arbitrary BS that it’s too early to put in a stockwatch 🤣

And your second point really grinds my gears and is completely hypocritical. Edwards was injured and was roughly affected for 5 games, where on one of those games he saw a total of 3 minutes of action. But we didn’t discount that, even though that’s circumstantial. Even so, with your argument that they were blowouts, and JT and JB were being selfish, Derrick White’s FG%s were really bad, which shouldn’t have been affected by a blowout, regardless of lower counting stats. 

According to everybody here, you can’t pick and choose what’s meaningful and what’s not, so those last 5 games from Derrick White are not meaningless. 

Sorry to grind your gears, little buddy. Wouldn’t want to hurt anybody’s little feelers with a purely logical argument.

And Hypocritical? How the fuck do you figure? I never once mentioned his bad stretch when I was voting and even raised my vote from an 87 to an 88 after a few days of thinking on it. The bad stretch was meaningless for Ant too, all I ever said was an offhand discord comment about how goofy your timing was considering you were already posting early and also chose to do it when he was in the middle of a slump that made his season averages less impressive than they should have been.

[Amare Stoudemire]

84

[Chauncey Billups]

Jan 12, 2024 15:50:18 GMT Sam Presti said:

Jan 12, 2024 15:03:20 GMT Chauncey Billups said:

Yeah, it’s my fault that people voted 84-86 on Edwards based on people’s weird, arbitrary BS that it’s too early to put in a stockwatch 🤣

And your second point really grinds my gears and is completely hypocritical. Edwards was injured and was roughly affected for 5 games, where on one of those games he saw a total of 3 minutes of action. But we didn’t discount that, even though that’s circumstantial. Even so, with your argument that they were blowouts, and JT and JB were being selfish, Derrick White’s FG%s were really bad, which shouldn’t have been affected by a blowout, regardless of lower counting stats. 

According to everybody here, you can’t pick and choose what’s meaningful and what’s not, so those last 5 games from Derrick White are not meaningless. 

Sorry to grind your gears, little buddy. Wouldn’t want to hurt anybody’s little feelers with a purely logical argument.

😂

[George Gervin]

Bump for more votes

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

82

[George Gervin]

THREAD CLOSED.

New Rating = 83 (83.4)