Atlanta - New Orleans

[Brian Scalabrine]

Pelicans trade:
Dennis Schroder $25,000,000 (Contract)
2023 Phoenix 1st round pick
2023 New Orleans 1st round pick
2024 Atlanta 1st round pick
2024 Los Angeles Clippers 1st round pick

Hawks trade:
DeAaron Fox $30,913,750 $33,232,281 $35,550,812 $37,869,343 $40,187,874

I accept Jay Z

Edit: to expand further, while this is a very high price to pay I am excited about the possibilities that a Trae - Fox - Jaren big 3 presents. This is a new era of New Orleans Pelicans basketball 

[Jay Z]

wow. all these years of trying to build the Atlanta Hawks into something, and by no means is it a bad team, but I've made the decision to pivot the franchise. I have no doubt that this could have been a monster of a team had Fox and Lauri had the year they are having now last year, but that's how the dice fell this time. We will be hitting restart on the franchise and moving forward. We accept the trade, thank you Fox for the fun 5 years, wish you, Brian, and NOP the best of luck going forward.

[Walt Frazier]

I guess to get conversation moving...

I don't like this for the Hawks. Can you imagine a real-life version of these Hawks with Jimmy Butler & De'Aaron Fox & Nicolas Claxton with Vucevic, Norman Powell, Robert Covington (and a not-terrible bench) just blowing it up like this? < That's not enough to reject on it's own, at all. The value here is what matters. But it starts on a really weird note for me.

So, this year's current-9th pick
This year's current-15th pick (but, upgrading their lineup in a HUGE way...so worse than 15 almost certainly)
Next year's pick from the Clippers, currently 10th this year.
And their own next-year 1st back.

A LOT of value is being placed on their own 1st next year IMO. But weirdly, it would be pick 20 this year. But he's blowing it up so...who knows.

^All of that sort-of-middling value on picks, for a guy who is legitimately in conversation for All-NBA teams. (He's not gonna BE all-nba but it's worth thinking about it, he's that good.) And it's not like he's old. He's really fucking good lol.

I'm not ready to put in my vote but those are my first thoughts.

[Ian Noble]

I guess it always concerns me when an inactive team takes a hard right turn and ships out it's best players and there's no evidence there's been much planning or fielding of offers.

It's a decent return for DeAaron Fox but I don't think the same can be said of Jimmy Butler in the other thread.

[James Kay]

Any TC member considering rejecting this pair of trades - I encourage you to try and see what the market is for win-now players. ATL getting 5 firsts and OG Anunoby for his rebuild is a haul. '

Plus, the picks are solid at the moment: Currently ranked 6, 9, 15 (with the chance to enter the top 3 always there), and two high-value lottery picks next year (LAC and his own).

[Walt Frazier]

Jay is lining himself up to potentially be one of those "damn, that team was GOOD and then that GM blew it up and never really did anything with the team" type GMs of history. But I hope, deeply, that he does NOT go that route. At least do good research and if it doesn't work out, stick it out and be here for the next attempt.

I kinda hate that I even have those thoughts but this past off-season still sits on my mind a little bit. We weren't all thinking Lauri was a stud but I think we all thought it very odd that he was not very active in OSFA. That really can't happen again. Jay needs to research these picks, really make the team what he wants it to be, and see it through.

Fuck I sound like an asshole. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is:

Accept.

Just, do it right man. And good luck.

[Walt Frazier]

Also can I just say, only one team wins it every year. For the health of the league, we do need managers who are okay being the 4-6 seed and still having a chance. You literally never know when a stud from the "best team that can't be beat" is going to have an injury one year and suddenly all bets are off. You could win it all!

I've done it, I traded very promising young players for a high-rated vet (and I currently hate that trade - BUT I did make a WCF run and that was AWESOME), I've signed guys like Richaun Holmes (ugh) - but I do think there's value in going for it. My examples are sort of bad examples, lmao, but it is NOT a guarantee that Memphis or Brooklyn are going to win it all. More people should be trying to go for it. Kinda frustrating, ngl.

[Ian Noble]

Apr 12, 2023 15:02:44 GMT Ian Noble said:

I guess it always concerns me when an inactive team takes a hard right turn and ships out it's best players and there's no evidence there's been much planning or fielding of offers.

It's a decent return for DeAaron Fox but I don't think the same can be said of Jimmy Butler in the other thread.

Following on from this, I accept

[Alex English]

Sure, I'll accept.

[Bryan Colangelo]

I accept

[Ian Noble]

Jay Z needs to sign a player for this deal to be legal.

[Jay Z]

Ian Noble George Hill signed, you can process.  ty

[Ian Noble]

Brian Scalabrine also needs to release a player!

I've processed this trade though now guys. Brian Scalabrine Jay Z you can update your depth charts.