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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 11, 2023 6:27:33 GMT
Using the logic that Josh did to put his vote for Demar, I think Nikola should be lowered just by the reality that he is should not be 87 in DAware, the most important attribute on defense. Just for context, Poetl, considered to be one of the best defensive center in the league, has a DAware of 88.
Suggestion: 96
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 11, 2023 6:30:07 GMT
P.S. San Antonio IRL just scored 68 points in the paint, more than 50% of their final score.
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Post by Josh Barber on Mar 11, 2023 11:57:58 GMT
I know this is just bait, but you know what, I’m just going to delete my DeRozan vote. Between Tom messaging me all day yesterday to then targeting Andre Iguoudala with an 6 game sample size, and now to this troll thread, it’s just not worth it to for me to vote in the stockwatch section anymore. Even when I just try to mind my own business, my team gets caught in the crossfire.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 11, 2023 12:24:51 GMT
I know this is just bait, but you know what, I’m just going to delete my DeRozan vote. Between Tom messaging me all day yesterday to then targeting Andre Iguoudala with an 6 game sample size, and now to this troll thread, it’s just not worth it to for me to vote in the stockwatch section anymore. Even when I just try to mind my own business, my team gets caught in the crossfire. I am not trolling. Your main logic in the Derozan thread was his bad three-point shooting. I am applying that logic to Jokic with his defense. You are more than open to argue against it. Unlike Tom, I do not take things in SW personally. My history in SW will tell you that. Ian Noble @ Walt Frazier This is a legitimate stockwatch.
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Post by Jerry West on Mar 11, 2023 12:34:26 GMT
Well he is 3rd in defensive raptor, that means he is the 3rd best defender in the league
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Post by Jerry West on Mar 11, 2023 12:40:04 GMT
I know this is just bait, but you know what, I’m just going to delete my DeRozan vote. Between Tom messaging me all day yesterday to then targeting Andre Iguoudala with an 6 game sample size, and now to this troll thread, it’s just not worth it to for me to vote in the stockwatch section anymore. Even when I just try to mind my own business, my team gets caught in the crossfire. Hate how much D5 has turn into a politicians game where for example, you and Tom pretend to be best buddies just to stab each other in the back all the time and try to put the blame on someone else. In 2 years time there will be 5 people voting on SWs
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 11, 2023 12:51:24 GMT
Is posting an Andre Iguodala thread because I thought he was essentially out of the league stabbing someone in the back? Lol
I'm kinda done with you guys. I feel like you wrap me up in your shenanigans and I don't deserve it. I defend players when I think it's unfair. I do think 84-86 votes on a top player are unfair so of course I presented counter arguments, why would I not do that? All the while at I supported a decrease.
Leave me out of your guys' shit.
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 11, 2023 13:10:18 GMT
Hanamichi Sakuragi, both this thread and the Giannis one are incredibly annoying and unnecessary. What is the point you’re trying to prove? First and foremost, creating these threads, tracking them, and reconciling takes time and energy to do. We have had a huge pace this season on threads where Walt Frazier deserves all the credit on completion, and you posting threads like this is a straight slap in the face to him and a fucking waste of time. Second, this is supposed to be for fun. All of us get to live out our “What if I was an NBA GM?” fantasy through each team we manage. You don’t need to be Kendrick Perkins out here raging like a banshee spewing bullshit for some scoreboard — this is not First Take, or Mike and the Mad Dog. Third, and lastly, you coming in with a smile and shiv does not help diffuse the situation at all. Cooler heads need to prevail (and that’s not directed at just you) cause the League is morphing into an almost unrecognizable form compared to how it was five years ago when I joined, and especially so for those like YOU who have been here longer than that. End rant.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 11, 2023 16:41:16 GMT
No change. Bad trolling
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Post by Jared Montini on Mar 11, 2023 16:48:16 GMT
Didn’t you post a 99 jokic thread like 2 months ago? 98
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 11, 2023 19:17:59 GMT
Everyone just vote no change when you come across this stuff.
It's different (seemingly so) than other threads where this happens, but we can all just say "this is a bad post, no change" and move on.
THAT said, I do think we need to stop the weaponization of the SW.
If it's truly a rating you think needs changed, obviously go for it.
Pointing to another person's post and straw-manning an very thin argument out of it.... Not really convincing IMHO. Makes it looks disingenuous.
No change and/or bad post to be ignored
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Post by James Kay on Mar 14, 2023 16:24:42 GMT
"I'm kinda done with you guys. I feel like you wrap me up in your shenanigans "
"it’s just not worth it to for me to vote in the stockwatch section anymore. Even when I just try to mind my own business, my team gets caught in the crossfire."
lmao everybody is innocent and tired of everyone else's shit
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 14, 2023 19:43:57 GMT
I do feel like the Stockwatch has become as divisive as Fox News - great for league activity but pretty toxic.
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Post by Jay Z on Mar 14, 2023 20:15:59 GMT
No change
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 15, 2023 9:43:14 GMT
fwiw Jokic's defense does suck and a re-work to address it doesn't seem like trolling to me, Denver's success is built around scoring not D, /r/nba has been all over this topic lately since it was found that mods were deleting and banning Jokic slander - currently it's the top two threads. 
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Tom Izzo
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 15, 2023 10:16:20 GMT
Reddit is on a vicious attack against D5s advanced stats experts over the last week
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 15, 2023 14:49:47 GMT
fwiw Jokic's defense does suck and a re-work to address it doesn't seem like trolling to me, Denver's success is built around scoring not D, /r/nba has been all over this topic lately since it was found that mods were deleting and banning Jokic slander - currently it's the top two threads.  My "problem" is your response here arguably is a better argument than the original post. I don't like "rewarding" the poor effort, literally zero stats at all, lol (from the original post).
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 16, 2023 13:10:23 GMT
Ian Noble, can we move this one to the trash?
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