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Post by Jerry West on Mar 10, 2023 12:23:17 GMT
Current Rating: 90 Proposed Rating: 86 Suggest Scoring Area: 6
24.9 ppg / 4.5 rpg / 5.1 apg / 1.0 spg / 0.5 bpg / 2.2 TOV .510 / .305 / .872 splits .595 TS% O Raptor 2.6 D raptor .2 Total raptor 2.8(48th in league)
He’s still good at basketball, but he is certainly not a 90. The counting stats and team wins are not there to warrant that high of a rating. The Bulls are the 11th seed in the east despite the East being as weak as ever, (outside of the play-in despite also having Zach LaVine and Vuc) and have been very underwhelming. Last year he had a career season from 3 but he is back to 30% so he doesn't need those points anymore for example, subtracting from those will probably take away 2 rating points by itself.
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Post by Jared Montini on Mar 10, 2023 12:23:59 GMT
86.5
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Post by Brad Stevens on Mar 10, 2023 13:23:02 GMT
85.2
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 10, 2023 13:29:10 GMT
87 — the 3PT rating needs to be tanked but he’s still an effective player and has retooled his game a lot since coming into the League.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 10, 2023 13:34:33 GMT
91
is higher than 90 right?
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 10, 2023 13:52:56 GMT
I'm curious at what point could I consider Jerry West to be harassing me? I wish to file an official complaint lol. I block him on Discord and then he tags me in the Big Up thread, berates me, and then I block him there. So then he messages me privately (what's the point of blocking if the people can still message you?) and now he's SWd my player.
I'm being genuinely honest here, I have no desire to communicate with this guy at all. If he's Giannis' player agent this summer I will be negotiating with someone else
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 10, 2023 13:56:41 GMT
And now having said that, he's averaging 25/4/5 on 59.5% TS and 51% FG and outside of him and Lavine the Bulls are trash. Curious that Jerry targets DeMar but not 85 Vucevic.
DeMar isn't lower than an 88, where he was before his boost to 90 last year.
88.5 is my vote
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 10, 2023 14:42:44 GMT
Somebody told me Jerry suggested a score area 6 😂
The only reason he'd do that is because the current leading Discord theory is that a diverse score area in your starting 5 is key to winning. Jrue and Brunson are both 6s as is. So he's trying to suggest he's the same as Jrue and Brunson and give me my third score area 6, on top of a decrease 😂
DeMar isn't a 6 in any case, but Jerry's obsession with me is getting weird. Leave me alone man
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 10, 2023 16:55:49 GMT
Somebody told me Jerry suggested a score area 6 😂 The only reason he'd do that is because the current leading Discord theory is that a diverse score area in your starting 5 is key to winning. Jrue and Brunson are both 6s as is. So he's trying to suggest he's the same as Jrue and Brunson and give me my third score area 6, on top of a decrease 😂 DeMar isn't a 6 in any case, but Jerry's obsession with me is getting weird. Leave me alone man The idea is true.    |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 10, 2023 17:04:38 GMT
86
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Post by Steve Nash on Mar 10, 2023 18:38:24 GMT
86.5
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 10, 2023 22:40:04 GMT
88
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 11, 2023 0:00:39 GMT
DeMar's impact to the game, as indicated in RAPTOR & WAR, rates similar to players like Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Devin Booker, & LeBron James. His counting stats put him ahead of some of those same players.
He's being punished for being on the Bulls and not shooting 3s. Meanwhile his TS% is higher than last year.
Behind Lavine, DeMar's best teammates are Alex Caruso, Nikola Vucevic, and Jerry's favorite player - Coby White.
And in this thread you actually have people voting 84, 85, and 86. If voting ended today, D5 would have DeMar DeRozan as the 33rd ranked player in the league.
This is just absurd. Take him down from a 90, sure. 84-86 votes? Because he doesn't shoot 3s???
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Monty Williams
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Post by Monty Williams on Mar 11, 2023 1:50:10 GMT
87.7
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Gary Payton
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Post by Gary Payton on Mar 11, 2023 2:34:24 GMT
86
Adjusted my vote from an 87 after some consideration.
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Post by Jerry West on Mar 11, 2023 9:32:56 GMT
DeMar's impact to the game, as indicated in RAPTOR & WAR, rates similar to players like Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Devin Booker, & LeBron James. His counting stats put him ahead of some of those same players. He's being punished for being on the Bulls and not shooting 3s. Meanwhile his TS% is higher than last year. Behind Lavine, DeMar's best teammates are Alex Caruso, Nikola Vucevic, and Jerry's favorite player - Coby White. And in this thread you actually have people voting 84, 85, and 86. If voting ended today, D5 would have DeMar DeRozan as the 33rd ranked player in the league. This is just absurd. Take him down from a 90, sure. 84-86 votes? Because he doesn't shoot 3s??? You see, when you use an advanced stat to say DD is better than PG, Kawhi or Booker you have clearly lost your good judgement. Once again, everyone else is wrong but Tom, and we have to be extra nice to him or he gets angry. Also 33rd best player sounds exactly where DeMar should be lol, to a normal person I mean, not your bias ass. |
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 11, 2023 10:08:09 GMT
PG, Booker, Kawhi, LeBron > DeRozan
You see, when you struggle with reading you can spin what people say into any argument you want.
What I said was his stats are similar to them. I do not think he's better than those players. Note, those players are 90, 90, 92, 93.
I'm not suggesting DeRozan shouldn't be decreased. I'm suggesting voting 84-86 is absurd
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Post by Jerry West on Mar 11, 2023 10:18:50 GMT
Sure, you clearly aren't IMPLYING anything by that statement, it's why you use those names instead of some random players. It's like talking to a child.
People voted what they voted, the first votes were lower than what you wanted so you spammed the thread so people vote out of pity, and the votes got higher, so congrats I guess.
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Post by Arvydas Sabonis on Mar 11, 2023 12:01:28 GMT
86.5
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Larry Bird
 Indiana Pacers
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Post by Larry Bird on Mar 11, 2023 12:40:52 GMT
87
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Mar 12, 2023 23:39:26 GMT
88
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Post by James Kay on Mar 14, 2023 16:41:18 GMT
87.3
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Amare Stoudemire
 Sacramento Kings
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Mar 15, 2023 1:25:06 GMT
86
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 15, 2023 14:46:03 GMT
87.25
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 16, 2023 13:08:02 GMT
Bump above Mar 16 SW Closures for more votes
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 18, 2023 9:57:26 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 27, 2023 16:40:19 GMT
THREAD CLOSED.
New Rating = 87 (86.8)
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