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Post by Jerry West on Jul 21, 2022 16:38:53 GMT
 Charlotte Hornets - Serge Ibaka
Serge Ibaka has agreed to a 1 year contract worth $3,000,000 to return to the Hornets. Here are the contract details:
Year 1: $3,000,000
Me and my client have made this decision in order to exert power over the league, given we are power hungry, and what better way to satisfy our hunger with an extra 2 million on the bank and a place full of happy memories? Welcome back home Serge!
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Post by James Kay on Jul 21, 2022 16:41:52 GMT
Welcome back Serge! Another re-signing for the Hornets!
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 21, 2022 16:43:59 GMT
Can we get an explanation as to why his real-life decision, as of literally yesterday, to sign a 1 year minimum with the title-contending Bucks was ignored? I'm not sure what better evidence we could hope for about his irl intentions and personality.
When I PMed you about it you claimed he had loyalty to the Hornets because he won a title there. But he has bounced around the league in D5 since then, so I'm not sure if loyalty really makes sense. And besides, wouldn't that mean he would have gone to the Raptors irl, as he won a title there?
I am honestly just trying to understand the thought process, please don't attack me lol
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 21, 2022 16:46:58 GMT
Can we get an explanation as to why his real-life decision, as of literally yesterday, to sign a 1 year minimum with the title-contending Bucks was ignored? I'm not sure what better evidence we could hope for about his irl intentions and personality. When I PMed you about it you claimed he had loyalty to the Hornets because he won a title there. But he has bounced around the league in D5 since then, so I'm not sure if loyalty really makes sense. And besides, wouldn't that mean he would have gone to the Raptors irl, as he won a title there? I am honestly just trying to understand the thought process, please don't attack me lol Josh I asked you to show me the Raptors offered to Ibaka which you refused to do, also this a joke because you aren't on discord, you wouldn't get it.
That said your initial argument was: "Ibaka left the clippers for LA after winning the title, that means he cares about winning more than anything" which then as a Clippers fan I explained to you why he made that decision which he speaked about at the time, followed up by you saying, ignore that, that was years ago. So I feel like you were trying to throw stuff at the wall to see what would stick. Also if he didn't sign to Charlotte he would sign to Houston. Thank you for your offer tho
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 21, 2022 16:50:34 GMT
Can we get an explanation as to why his real-life decision, as of literally yesterday, to sign a 1 year minimum with the title-contending Bucks was ignored? I'm not sure what better evidence we could hope for about his irl intentions and personality. When I PMed you about it you claimed he had loyalty to the Hornets because he won a title there. But he has bounced around the league in D5 since then, so I'm not sure if loyalty really makes sense. And besides, wouldn't that mean he would have gone to the Raptors irl, as he won a title there? I am honestly just trying to understand the thought process, please don't attack me lol Josh I asked you to show me the Raptors offered to Ibaka which you refused to do, also this a joke because you aren't on discord, you wouldn't get it. That said your initial argument was: "Ibaka left the clippers for LA after winning the title, that means he cares about winning more than anything" which then as a Clippers fan I explained to you why he made that decision which he speaked about at the time, followed up by you saying, ignore that, that was years ago. So I feel like you were trying to throw stuff at the wall to see what would stick. Also if he didn't sign to Charlotte he would sign to Houston. Thank you for your offer tho
I'm sorry but literally nothing you said in this post is true. Here is the proof:   I only mentioned the Clippers in your response to him wanting to re-sign with a team he won the title on. It was not "my argument". As I said, my argument is that we should use the evidence as of literally yesterday in order to inform our decision. |
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 21, 2022 16:54:00 GMT
"Sir surely his real life actions as of literally yesterday would trump a presumed loyalty to Charlotte? He won a title in Toronto irl and signed with LAC. If there is a clear indicator that winning a title is the most important thing to him, then we should not place loyalty above it in making a decision. "
That really feels like an argument to me using the decision to leave Toronto for LAC, which I explained to you why he left. Which had nothing to do with winning the title or not. To which you asnwered: "That was years ago. He made a decision literally yesterday that we can use as an indication of his personality."
So it really feels that's exactly what you told me
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 21, 2022 16:55:07 GMT
I read your response about more money in LAC as the reason you were sending him to Charlotte for more money. Which is why I said the decision was years ago and should not trump the decision he made yesterday. Make sense?
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 21, 2022 16:56:19 GMT
Sorry Jerry but I have the receipts this time. I am still trying to understand why his real-life decision as of yesterday was ignored, but I am starting to feel like I will never get that addressed.
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 21, 2022 16:57:27 GMT
I read your response about more money in LAC as the reason you were sending him to Charlotte for more money. Which is why I said the decision was years ago and should not trump the decision he made yesterday. Make sense? No, I was trying to invalidate your point about him choosing LAC over Toronto years ago after winning the title, by giving you the reasons he left, aka money and Kawhi. Not trying to use it as a point in favor of Charlotte, just discrediting your argument |
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 21, 2022 16:58:24 GMT
Sorry Jerry but I have the receipts this time. I am still trying to understand why his real-life decision as of yesterday was ignored, but I am starting to feel like I will never get that addressed. Mate you don't have receipts, you are just angry and are refusing to understand, I didn't use anything in favor of Charlotte, you tried to portray him leaving Toronto to LAC as a reason why he shouldn't return to Charlotte and I descredit it, that's it. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 21, 2022 16:58:31 GMT
I read your response about more money in LAC as the reason you were sending him to Charlotte for more money. Which is why I said the decision was years ago and should not trump the decision he made yesterday. Make sense? No, I was trying to invalidate your point about him choosing LAC over Toronto years ago after winning the title, by giving you the reasons he left, aka money and Kawhi. Not trying to use it as a point in favor of Charlotte, just discrediting your argument That wasn't my argument, though, that's my point. And I have the PMs to prove it. I don't care about the LAC decision at all. I care about his decision he made yesterday. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 21, 2022 16:59:38 GMT
I'm not going to waste more time here lol, its just silly at this point. If you feel like addressing why you ignored his real-life personality then please do. Otherwise there's no point in trying to bring more transparency here because it just results in you being defensive and not addressing my question.
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Post by James Kay on Jul 21, 2022 17:00:52 GMT
Sir he re-signed with the Bucks. Seems like that aspect of his decision is something you’re skipping over. He re-signed IRL, so he will re-sign here.  |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 21, 2022 17:05:03 GMT
Sir he re-signed with the Bucks. Seems like that aspect of his decision is something you’re skipping over. He re-signed IRL, so he will re-sign here. This is a satisfactory answer if that's how Jerry interpreted the signing, but not once did Jerry articulate this point |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 21, 2022 17:07:33 GMT
Are you good sirs seriously arguing this much over Serge Ibaka?
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