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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 21, 2013 0:44:42 GMT
Player name: Earl Clark, Rating: 69
Offer:
1 Year - $ 490,180
2 Year - $ 490,180 (TO)
3 Year - $ 490,180
4 Year - $ 490,180 (PO)
Kings would like to offer for Clark's services. Since Kings didn't use the MLE during the off-season i believe we still can use it (check Blazers case).
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 21, 2013 2:11:20 GMT
The TWolves would like to offer Earl Clark (there is no e, btw...I know it's like that in the FA list, just saying) the following contract:
Year 1: $490,180
Year 2: $590,180
Year 3: $690,180 (TO)
Year 4: $790,180
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 21, 2013 2:26:37 GMT
fixed name. I am also updating the offer.
Offer:
1 Year - $ 490,180
2 Year - $ 490,180 (TO)
3 Year - $ 544,100
4 Year - $ 603,951 (PO)
5 Year - $ 670,385 (PO)
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 21, 2013 2:30:55 GMT
4 year maximum on In-Season FA's
Also, would love to know from Ian...a TO is not guaranteed money. I've been in Sims before where they would consider the current Kings offer very low, as it only guarantees to pay $490,180, whereas my offer already guarantees $1,080,360
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 21, 2013 2:35:43 GMT
1 Year - $ 700,000 or $ 674,150 - take the one that applies to the rules
2 Year - $ 600,000
3 Year - $ 700,000
4 Year - $ 800,000
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Post by Danny Longley on Jan 21, 2013 2:48:56 GMT
Not that I'm bidding, but I think this applies here. - Contracts offered to free agents rated 70 or below must not contain Team or Player Options.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 21, 2013 3:05:23 GMT
Good catch mang
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 21, 2013 3:16:28 GMT
Also, Ruben, the maximum an offer can decrease is 11%. So, 700,000 down to 600,000 is too large...gotta update again!
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 21, 2013 3:22:17 GMT
TWolves Updated Offer:
Year 1: $1,000,000
Year 2: $890,000
Year 3: $792,100
Year 4: $704,969
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 21, 2013 3:26:45 GMT
1 Year - $ 1,500,000
2 Year - $ 1,400,000
3 Year - $ 1,500,000
4 Year - $ 1,600,000
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jan 21, 2013 3:57:35 GMT
EARLSANITY
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 21, 2013 4:50:49 GMT
TWolves Offer:
Year 1: $1,800,000
Year 2: $1,602,000
Year 3: $1,425,780
Year 4: $1,268,945
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 21, 2013 4:55:51 GMT
This is is what happens when you start a thread for a player no one wants and suddenly there is interest.  1 Year - $ 1,700,000 2 Year - $ 1,520,000 3 Year - $ 1,670,000 4 Year - $ 1,830,000 |
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Post by Allen Iverson on Jan 21, 2013 6:02:21 GMT
IT'S CLARKSANITY. ;D
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 3:26:33 GMT
TWolves come in with another offer:
Year 1: $2,500,000
Year 2: $2,225,000
Year 3: $1,980,250
Year 4: $1,762,430
Total: $8,467,680
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 22, 2013 3:35:56 GMT
Ok, I will explain what just happened. Walt decided he wanted to wait for Lakers game to see if it was worth bidding again for Clark. Maybe, he should have started the thread if he was so damn interested in signing him. I guess i will just wait 23 hours and improve the offer by 1 dollar to start an infinite bid... |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 3:38:59 GMT
OK, I will explain what actually happened.
#1 - I happen to have a life :-p
#2 - I didn't start this thread because, yes, I didn't know he was out there, missed him, so good call on that.
Go ahead and wait...or just up your offer significantly to what you think he is worth.
I upped mine somewhat significantly, so if you want him, put in a bigger bid.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 22, 2013 3:40:36 GMT
or maybe a 3rd party could make a better offer and get over with this pain in the ass.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 3:41:21 GMT
For the record, my offer is $1,747,680 more than Kings' previous offer, and it's also $2,370,955 more than my previous offer. Pretty big jump at this point.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 3:42:03 GMT
Not a pain in the ass to me, just bidding on a player I like. So far, the price is w/in what I'm willing to pay...though, may get out of hand before long.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 22, 2013 3:51:07 GMT
#2 - I didn't start this thread because, yes, I didn't know he was out there, missed him, so good call on that. Maybe, i should take the time to discuss if this makes sense or not. If Clark was a 70, he would be signed by now. Since he is a 69, he is not. How that makes sense? A 69 rated player should be easier to sign that a 70 rated player... I think the idea of the rules for -70 rated players is to skip the part of talking with an agent and make the process faster but this is not the case. I think the rules are ok but the bids should not be public the same way bids for 70 rated players are not public. I think offers should be sent to Ian applying the same rules but keeping the confidentiality. With how rules are set, there is absolutely no point for me to do a freaking scouting report on -70 rated players! |
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 22, 2013 3:51:55 GMT
#1 - I happen to have a life :-p That doesn't change the fact you were waiting for the Lakers game. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 3:56:01 GMT
I waited for a couple hours once I got around to checking in on the Clark bidding, but it's not like I waited around all day just waiting for the game.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 22, 2013 4:18:02 GMT
I made my homework on Earl Clark and someone else became interested after he discovered i was interested because of the lack of confidentiality. In other words, I am fucked. Someone please make a good offer and take Clark to end this.  If you want more information on Clark, he is playing right now with the Lakers against Bulls. He has 8 points (4-6 fg), 4 rebounds and 1 block at halftime. Also, he has been pretty great during all January. He exploded in January 9 against Spurs with 22 points (9-12 fg) and 13 rebounds. Ever since, he stayed sharp. His current averages are not great but they should go up soon. Also and most importantly, he is a 6-10 player with good mobility and decent shooting. Mike DAntoni loves that kind of player! And he usually takes 1 unknown player and tries to develop him. Diaw comes to my mind right now but there are lots of cases. What else… He was a high draft pick that never lived to his potential but he always looked like someone who could become productive under DAntoni’s system, lol. |
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Post by Alex English on Jan 22, 2013 4:25:19 GMT
Ok, I will explain what just happened. Walt decided he wanted to wait for Lakers game to see if it was worth bidding again for Clark. What's wrong with that? Sounds like something a good GM would do. If I might want to sign a guy I want to know everything about him from how he played in his last game to what he eats for breakfast. Free agency is no place for ignorance |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 4:31:04 GMT
Ruben, I've followed Clark ever since he was in college at Louisville, especially since he went to the Lakers and finally started getting some run.
You weren't doing me a favor by posting about him, that's not when I decided "hey, who is this guy?"...instead, it's when I said "oh shoot, I forgot no one owned him in this league." So, then I bid against you for his services.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 22, 2013 4:35:02 GMT
Ok, I will explain what just happened. Walt decided he wanted to wait for Lakers game to see if it was worth bidding again for Clark. What's wrong with that? Sounds like something a good GM would do. If I might want to sign a guy I want to know everything about him from how he played in his last game to what he eats for breakfast. Free agency is no place for ignorance That is not point. The point is I did the research on a player and I would have him if there was confidentiality like there is for 70+ rated players. |
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 22, 2013 4:39:33 GMT
Ruben, I've followed Clark ever since he was in college at Louisville, especially since he went to the Lakers and finally started getting some run. You weren't doing me a favor by posting about him, that's not when I decided "hey, who is this guy?"...instead, it's when I said "oh shoot, I forgot no one owned him in this league." So, then I bid against you for his services. Yes. I know you have a huge research database... That still doesn't change the fact no one would have made an offer in 24 hours if there was confidentiality. Clark was right there in the FA list. I also made my homework on Alan Anderson and I got him because he was a 70. Too bad, I signed him for Wizards. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 4:40:50 GMT
It was also fun how you originally posted this thread under the (incorrect and imcomplete) name "Clarke".
I was like, who the heck is that? And why doesn't he have a first and/or last name?
He's a 69, these are the rules, you knew them when you bid.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 22, 2013 4:41:30 GMT
Yea, Anderson was an alright signing. I'm personally not that big on him, but still a good signing for a team that needs all the help it can get.
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