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Post by Alex English on Feb 24, 2022 19:59:13 GMT
Chicago Bulls trade: 80 Aaron Gordon - $25,000,000 - $25,000,000 - $25,000,000 CLE 2023 2nd ORL 2025 2nd CHI 2025 2nd Denver Nuggets trade:Isaiah Thomas contract - $10,646,700Tony Snell contract - $8,705,984DJ Wilson contract - $5,598,745Total: $24,951,429
I accept on the condition I can cut Aaron Gordon. Let him sign with a team that wants him once he's no longer tied to his bad contract. Yay draft picks.
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Post by Jerry West on Feb 24, 2022 20:36:07 GMT
I dont like cutting Gordon, it's unrealistic
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Post by Alex English on Feb 24, 2022 21:48:25 GMT
I dont like cutting Gordon, it's unrealistic I'm not too surprised to hear this opinion, it's why I made my acceptance conditional on cutting him, but I'm not sure you can say it's unrealistic. Buyouts happen all the time. The Spurs just traded for Dragic then cut him. Now he's with the Nets.
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Feb 24, 2022 21:51:00 GMT
I dont like cutting Gordon, it's unrealistic I'm not too surprised to hear this opinion, it's why I made my acceptance conditional on cutting him, but I'm not sure you can say it's unrealistic. Buyouts happen all the time. The Spurs just traded for Dragic then cut him. Now he's with the Nets. Let's be real, how old is Dragic? Oh that's right he's 35 makes total sense. Great Example
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Post by Alex English on Feb 24, 2022 22:01:45 GMT
I'm not too surprised to hear this opinion, it's why I made my acceptance conditional on cutting him, but I'm not sure you can say it's unrealistic. Buyouts happen all the time. The Spurs just traded for Dragic then cut him. Now he's with the Nets. Let's be real, how old is Dragic? Oh that's right he's 35 makes total sense. Great Example The player isn't really relevant, it's that they're overpaid and have no value. Who's giving up something worthwhile to pay Gordon $25m a year? It's never going to happen unless another terrible contract is given in return. Gordon has negative value, so something like this is the only way to make a deal.
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 24, 2022 22:03:22 GMT
Drummond was 27 when he got whacked and was a FA mid season— he also was on a significant contract (I think $28 MM) so it’s not like it has never happened. It is usually older players to your point, but it’s not as if we’ve never had a young guy get bought out
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Post by Jared Montini on Feb 24, 2022 22:04:17 GMT
Alex Is clearly tanking and when tanking teams have decent players, they either buy them out or don’t even have them play. Houston and John wall agreed to not play. Kemba for the Knicks has done the same. Alex could simply just not play him but we don’t allow that
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Feb 24, 2022 22:05:46 GMT
Let's be real, how old is Dragic? Oh that's right he's 35 makes total sense. Great Example The player isn't really relevant, it's that they're overpaid and have no value. Who's giving up something worthwhile to pay Gordon $25m a year? It's never going to happen unless another terrible contract is given in return. Gordon has negative value, so something like this is the only way to make a deal. The player is completely relevant! Find one example of a 26 year old player irl on a 25M 3 year deal where this would happen. It wouldn't but since there is no rule I'm sure it'll slip through. Real realistic. Great Trade guys.
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Feb 24, 2022 22:07:06 GMT
Drummond was 27 when he got whacked and was a FA mid season— he also was on a significant contract (I think $28 MM) so it’s not like it has never happened. It is usually older players to your point, but it’s not as if we’ve never had a young guy get bought out 3 months compared to 3 years ain't in the same ball park and everyone knows it!
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Feb 24, 2022 22:08:22 GMT
Alex Is clearly tanking and when tanking teams have decent players, they either buy them out or don’t even have them play. Houston and John wall agreed to not play. Kemba for the Knicks has done the same. Alex could simply just not play him but we don’t allow that I'd rather see that almost, and your fine with it bc you have the cap to sign him! If you didn't I doubt we here anything from you!
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Post by Jared Montini on Feb 24, 2022 22:13:57 GMT
Alex Is clearly tanking and when tanking teams have decent players, they either buy them out or don’t even have them play. Houston and John wall agreed to not play. Kemba for the Knicks has done the same. Alex could simply just not play him but we don’t allow that I'd rather see that almost, and your fine with it bc you have the cap to sign him! If you didn't I doubt we here anything from you! Lmao, If all gordon wants is a 1 year deal, i have 0 interest. But Im commenting because I was alexs team at one point. In PHX i traded for rose as a cap dump and he was the same rating(80). When I cut him, people complained but let me do it. Im advocating for Gms to make the moves they want. Nobody gets screwed in this scenario
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Feb 24, 2022 22:16:58 GMT
I'd rather see that almost, and your fine with it bc you have the cap to sign him! If you didn't I doubt we here anything from you! Lmao, If all gordon wants is a 1 year deal, i have 0 interest. But Im commenting because I was alexs team at one point. In PHX i traded for rose as a cap dump and he was the same rating(80). When I cut him, people complained but let me do it. Im advocating for Gms to make the moves they want. Nobody gets screwed in this scenario No LMAO seeing as I was your assistant when this happened and rose was 2 year deal, also a little older coming off major injuries!
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Post by Alex English on Feb 24, 2022 22:20:44 GMT
3 months compared to 3 years ain't in the same ball park and everyone knows it! The fact that his contract is longer makes his value even worse. This trade also has nothing to do with rules themselves, just 'realism' which is a very subjective idea that has been degraded in D5 anyway. Many crazier or sketchier things have happened. We can look at your own trade history for some examples.
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Post by Jared Montini on Feb 24, 2022 22:22:00 GMT
Lmao, If all gordon wants is a 1 year deal, i have 0 interest. But Im commenting because I was alexs team at one point. In PHX i traded for rose as a cap dump and he was the same rating(80). When I cut him, people complained but let me do it. Im advocating for Gms to make the moves they want. Nobody gets screwed in this scenario No LMAO seeing as I was your assistant when this happened and rose was 2 year deal, also a little older coming off major injuries! 2 years vs 3 both in the 20 millions I dont see a huge difference. Why is age a factor? Its not like Gordon is a 21 year old rookie who is gonna improve. Hes 26 and playing with Jokic. This is his peak. Rose drummond etc were all similar rated guys who were cut. Gordon has negative value as we can all clealry see
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Post by Shane Battier on Feb 24, 2022 22:58:06 GMT
I accept. When I traded for Gordon, I was hoping he'd fit in but the line-up I had when healthy hasn't really resulted to W's. Looking to clear cap space for the upcoming offseason
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 24, 2022 23:20:14 GMT
Chicago Bulls trade: 80 Aaron Gordon - $25,000,000 - $25,000,000 - $25,000,000 CLE 2023 2nd ORL 2025 2nd CHI 2025 2nd Denver Nuggets trade:Isaiah Thomas contract - $10,646,700Tony Snell contract - $8,705,984DJ Wilson contract - $5,598,745Total: $24,951,429
I accept on the condition I can cut Aaron Gordon. Let him sign with a team that wants him once he's no longer tied to his bad contract. Yay draft picks. I respect the fact that you respected realism to the point that you are asking the people if we should allow it or not. BUT, there is no need to ask us already Alex. We already let Lebron James be traded TWICE. I repeat, TWICE. That is a bigger crime to realism than you cutting Gordon. -Hanamichi out
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Feb 24, 2022 23:47:49 GMT
I accept, Alex can do whatever he wants to his team. He clearly wants to tank and willing to absorb the salary for 3 years to get 3 picks. Solid trade and both team wins
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 25, 2022 0:03:16 GMT
Chicago Bulls trade: 80 Aaron Gordon - $25,000,000 - $25,000,000 - $25,000,000 CLE 2023 2nd ORL 2025 2nd CHI 2025 2nd Denver Nuggets trade:Isaiah Thomas contract - $10,646,700Tony Snell contract - $8,705,984DJ Wilson contract - $5,598,745Total: $24,951,429
I accept on the condition I can cut Aaron Gordon. Let him sign with a team that wants him once he's no longer tied to his bad contract. Yay draft picks. I respect the fact that you respected realism to the point that you are asking the people if we should allow it or not. BUT, there is no need to ask us already Alex. We already let Lebron James be traded TWICE. I repeat, TWICE. That is a bigger crime to realism than you cutting Gordon. -Hanamichi out Do you not realize LeBron was traded already? In fact, the Cavs were the one to do it — your problem is you’re down the conspiratorial rabbit hole so far you’ve gone past Alice and the tea party all the way to the Queens chamber www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/trade_100710.html
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 25, 2022 1:27:03 GMT
I respect the fact that you respected realism to the point that you are asking the people if we should allow it or not. BUT, there is no need to ask us already Alex. We already let Lebron James be traded TWICE. I repeat, TWICE. That is a bigger crime to realism than you cutting Gordon. -Hanamichi out Do you not realize LeBron was traded already? In fact, the Cavs were the one to do it — your problem is you’re down the conspiratorial rabbit hole so far you’ve gone past Alice and the tea party all the way to the Queens chamber www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/trade_100710.htmlLOL. Technically that is a trade. But.. Nope. I am tired of fighting this fight already. So, I apologize. So, Alex sorry but for the sake of realism, I am against this trade. Thanks.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 25, 2022 1:28:48 GMT
By the way, I never created a conspiracy.
Being against a system doesn't mean that I am implying that there is a conspiracy against anybody.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 25, 2022 1:31:13 GMT
...twice...
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 25, 2022 1:34:10 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 28, 2022 22:45:31 GMT
If you're talking about this deal - it's legal. I accept.
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Post by Danny Longley on Feb 28, 2022 22:54:45 GMT
Accept
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 2, 2022 1:50:31 GMT
Accept for me too
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 6, 2022 20:38:39 GMT
Trade passed. Alex English you can post the release thread now.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 7, 2022 20:55:24 GMT
Trade passed.
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