(Queued) LAL/CLE

[Magic Johnson]

NOTE: SINCE BOS said it is STILL OKAY to use last season's salary for trade, I'LL STILL USE THEM

Los Angeles Lakers trade:

86 - Andrew Bynum - $14,900,000 - $16,100,000
78 - Kyle Lowry - $5,750,000 - $5,750,000 - $6,210,000

Total Outgoing Salary: $20,650,000
Total Incoming Salary: $5,144,280

Cleveland Cavaliers trade:

85 - Kyrie Irving - $5,144,280 - $5,375,760 - $5,607,240 - $7,070,730 - $9,191,949

draft rights to Dion Waiters

Total Outgoing Salary: $5,144,280
Total Incoming Salary: $20,650,000

I accept

I get a future superstar in the making in Kyrie Irving a guy that can ANCHOR my franchise for the NEXT 10 YEARS, although losing Bynum hurts, and even though I have his bird rights the thing with Bynum is the injury thing is still looming over him even though I think he is the BEST CENTER in the NBA.

Waiters for Lowry is more TOSSUP then anything it's basically taking chance on PROJECT vs taking chance on Lowry dominating, and although I think Lowry is a stud I don't think he will ever REACH that CP3 level of PG play, while Kyrie can, and in addition Waiters is a very solid player, if he can play up to his capabilities he can be a TOP 5 SG within the next 3 years.

[Ian Noble]

I'm very surprised Cleveland want to make this trade. Is a tandem of Bynum and Lowry really better rebuilding material than Irving and Waiters? The Lakers rape in this trade in my opinion, but somehow I'm tempted to accept because I like the job you're doing at the moment, Magic!

I will not give my verdict yet though, I'll wait for the rest of the committee. I've been pursuing Dion Waiters and I don't want to look like I'm biased.

[Lucas Lutkus]

:OOOOOOOOOO
Kyrie leaving Cleveland? Damn, this was unexpected

[Dan Gilbert]

I accept.

You have to build from the inside out and Andrew Bynum is top 2 in the NBA at the center position. He's a dominant player on the low block. Injuries are a concern but he's shown he can be a force when he's healthy. Lowry is no slouch either, and he's been putting up some good numbers as a main option in Toronto.

Lowry and Irving are putting up similar numbers right now in the NBA, and I'd much rather have Bynum as my starting C than Robin Lopez. I can find someone to replace Waiters because scoring shooting guards are everywhere.

[Glenn Robinson]

I don't like this trade for Cleveland at all. Lowry is a nice player and is doing really well in Toronto, but he is no Kyrie Irving. Waiters is also a nice piece but nothing majorly significant. What makes me hate this trade most of all for Cleveland, is that Bynum is going to be expiring after this year. Bynum is due to get a fat pay day in free agency, and who's to say he can't get it in a bigger market playing for a contending team?

I just feel the risk is too great for Cleveland to be gambling on Bynum staying after this coming year. What happens if Bynum doesn't resign in Cleveland? I think the intentions of Cleveland are right to try and build with a top big man, but what happens when Bynum heads to free agency and you don't get him back?

So unless I'm missing something and Bynum is a RFA or has some kind of bird rights, I'm going to have to reject this deal. Irving is a star and his time will come, sooner rather than later.

I reject unless someone can show me Bynum has bird rights or is a RFA and can be matched by Cleveland.

[Dan Gilbert]

I'm going to have more than enough money to keep Bynum. I'm building this team around him, why wouldn't he want to stay? Bynum is only 25, I'm pretty sure playing for a contender isn't high on his list. He wanted to be traded to Cleveland IRL. PG's like Irving are everywhere. Big men like Bynum are not.

I don't care either way, I think this move makes my team better but if keeping Irving is my 2nd option then whatever.

[Magic Johnson]

Nov 11, 2012 20:41:16 GMT Dan Gilbert said:

I'm going to have more than enough money to keep Bynum. I'm building this team around him, why wouldn't he want to stay? Bynum is only 25, I'm pretty sure playing for a contender isn't high on his list. He wanted to be traded to Cleveland IRL. PG's like Irving are everywhere. Big men like Bynum are not.

I don't care either way, I think this move makes my team better but if keeping Irving is my 2nd option then whatever.

+2


Bynum EVEN IN REAL LIFE welcomed a move to the Cavs when LAL/ORL/CLE had talks, he wants to be THE MAN at this point in his career, he has rings

he wants two things now, 1. $$$$$ 2. To be the man

[Dominique Wilkins]

Reject also. I think Cleveland is giving up a bit too much in the deal.

[Glenn Robinson]

You guys are missing my point though. I get in real life he welcomed a trade to the Cavs, I'm just saying, if another team out there has enough cap space and has some other pieces to contend, what makes you so sure he wouldn't leave?

I'm just saying there's a chance he could leave in free agency. Regardless if Cavs have enough cap space to re-sign him. He's still going to have options and really, it's a gamble.

[Andrei Kirilenko]

This is interesting to say the least. Irving is probably the best point guard in the East right now (and I'm a Nets fan), and Waiters has shown a ton of promise.

Bynum is alright. He may be the 2nd best center in the league (although I think Lopez is better offensively), but the quality of big men in basketball has declined significantly in recent years. This kid wouldn't be top 10 in the 90s, but what can you do. Lowry is a STUD though, and, IMO, isn't even that far away from Irving right now.

So, I'm willing to accept. Good trade guys

[Dan Gilbert]

lol.

Well Magic, this is gonna screw up your trade with GSW

[Magic Johnson]

Nov 11, 2012 21:30:02 GMT Glenn Robinson said:

You guys are missing my point though. I get in real life he welcomed a trade to the Cavs, I'm just saying, if another team out there has enough cap space and has some other pieces to contend, what makes you so sure he wouldn't leave?

I'm just saying there's a chance he could leave in free agency. Regardless if Cavs have enough cap space to re-sign him. He's still going to have options and really, it's a gamble.

THAT argument can be made for ANY player though.

[Glenn Robinson]

THAT argument can be made for ANY player though.

Yea but when it involves really good players that you are gambling with, it's kind of hard to ignore. You are just talking about your average run of the mill players. This is two young, potential superstar, franchise cornerstones. If Bynum were to leave for whatever reason, Cleveland would have traded one of the best up and coming point guards and a nice SG prospect for Kyle Lowry.

[Walt Frazier]

I would much rather get what the Lakers are getting here, but I can't really reject it either.

Accept.

[Glenn Robinson]

Alright guys,

I spent pretty much all night debating this trade in my head trying to make sense of it. While I don't like the fact that Cleveland is banking on Bynum re-signing next offseason, it is still a fair deal considering Lowry's emergence and when Bynum is healthy, he can be a real threat. I just hope for Clevelands sake, he can resign Bynum, regardless if he has all the cap space in the world. You see it all the time in the NBA where a team will gamble on a player in the last year of their contract. Sometimes they resign, but a lot of the times good players that get dealt at the deadline in the last year of their contracts usually sign elsewhere. Hopefully it's not the case for Cleveland. I'll overturn my ruling.

I'll accept this trade now.

[Ian Noble]

Looks like the trade passed, which is a miracle, I would've rejected it

Trade passed. Bravo, Magic Johnson, your Lakers are relevant again.