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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 5, 2020 18:12:29 GMT
OSFA 2020 Preview Probably Wasting Your Time Kristaps Porzingis Devin Booker Karl Anthony Towns Steph Curry Russell Westbrook Myles Turner Kemba Walker Tobias Harris Andre DrummondWe all get really hyped up for OSFA every year, but the reality of it is that most D5 players tend to re-sign with their current teams. Look, I'm not saying there's no chance at all that these guys leave their teams this offseason, but just that the chance is pretty minimal. Each of these players have GM loyalty, a clear and prominent role on a successful team, and no real qualitative factors that would suggest that they might be thinking about leaving. Historically, guys like this have always re-signed in D5, except for maybe one or two exceptions in the 10+ year history of the league. The only thing that would doom these players from re-signing is if the GM lowballs their contract. Don't Hold Your Breath Kyrie Irving D'Angelo RussellThese players don't check off every single factor above (Kyrie - GM Loyalty; D'Angelo - Team Success), but they do meet every other criteria. There's a slightly better chance that these guys bounce than the guys on the list above, but it is still pretty slim if the GM puts in a respectable offer. D'Angelo in particular is interesting, in my opinion, as the Wizards have not had any success in D5 and we can see that he really valued playing with KAT in real-life. If Jeremiah Hill tries to poach him, the player agents would definitely need to put some thought into him switching teams. In the Hands of Their GMs TJ Warren Bojan Bogdanovic Blake GriffinI think if their GMs put in respectable offers, these guys will re-sign with their current teams. However, the question here is whether their GMs will actually put in those offers. Bojan seems the most likely to get a strong offer from the Grizzlies, as Jeremiah traded two future 1sts for him. TJ Warren has been fitting in well in Brooklyn, but will the Nets prioritize a superstar over re-signing Warren? Blake Griffin is a complete wild card with his injury history, and it will be interesting to see if Walt Frazier gives him an offer, and if so, how much that offer will be. Some Serious Question Marks LeBron JamesI think ultimately LeBron re-signs in Boston, but the one wildcard here is Mark Price . The Lakers have cap space and a very sunny city to try to convince the player agents that LeBron has no business ever being in Boston to begin with. Kawhi LeonardUmm, what's going on with the Bulls? When your unloyal superstar has a player option coming up, this is not exactly the best year to miss the playoffs completely. There's a plethora of teams (Brooklyn, Memphis, San Antonio, LA Lakers) who will likely throw max deals at Leonard. Will it be enough to convince him to walk from the cap-locked Bulls? Paul GeorgeThe Paul George scenario got infinitely more complex with the Hornets trading Durant for LeBron and LeBron for Brandon Ingram. If you are a superstar in your prime, you probably don't want your team to cycle through 2 of the best players in the league and end up with a developing 22 year old. Plus, likely LeBron and Kawhi, we saw George strong-arm his way to California in real-life. Those same teams trying to poach Kawhi will likely go after George as well. Will anyone be able to convince him that Charlotte is no longer the best place to win a championship? Fire Away Spencer Dinwiddie Fred VanVleet Danilo GallinariSorry guys. If you want one of these players, you might be able to swing them your direction. The Pacers have been perpetually shopping Dinwiddie ever since acquiring him, and Fred VanVleet has not been a consistent starter with Marcus Smart already on the team. The Pacers likely need to make some moves in order to convince these players that the franchise is committed to them. For Gallo, him leaving the Kings is unfortunately already a done deal if he opts out of his PO, considering that Sacramento is too cap-locked to re-sign him.
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Mar 5, 2020 18:21:56 GMT
Great piece Josh!
Thing about Gallo is, why leave all that money on the table this year? Of course he's not getting any younger and surely wants a new contract, But leave 30 mil on the table for 1 more season, while playing on a top notch team in d5? I doubt it, but that's just my opinion!
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 5, 2020 18:25:01 GMT
Great piece Josh! Thing about Gallo is, why leave all that money on the table this year? Of course he's not getting any younger and surely wants a new contract, But leave 30 mil on the table for 1 more season, while playing on a top notch team in d5? I doubt it, but that's just my opinion! He’s 31 about to be 32 and there are 9 teams who have enough cap room right to offer a 9 yr vet full max— this is likely his last opportunity at a contract that is long term with significant money, and in all likelihood he’s gonna opt out. Especially with so many teams with cap room.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 5, 2020 18:28:01 GMT
George has a good point. There are a ton of teams with cap space this year and people that are hopeful about some players are going to inevitably strike out. Danilo is in a great spot to be someone's back up plan and capitalize on someone desperate
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Mar 5, 2020 18:31:18 GMT
Great piece Josh! Thing about Gallo is, why leave all that money on the table this year? Of course he's not getting any younger and surely wants a new contract, But leave 30 mil on the table for 1 more season, while playing on a top notch team in d5? I doubt it, but that's just my opinion! He’s 31 about to be 32 and there are 9 teams who have enough cap room right to offer a 9 yr vet full max— this is likely his last opportunity at a contract that is long term with significant money, and in all likelihood he’s gonna opt out. Especially with so many teams with cap room. I suppose that could happen, but will the teams that have the space, and aren't quite contending yet be willing to pay that kind of coin? Fun summer coming! But 1st Gallo has a job to do!
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 5, 2020 18:31:31 GMT
There’s also interesting arguments for Kyrie and Kemba to opt-in to their POs, similar to how PG did last year to hit a 10 year max in FA instead of the 9 year one.
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 5, 2020 18:39:32 GMT
He’s 31 about to be 32 and there are 9 teams who have enough cap room right to offer a 9 yr vet full max— this is likely his last opportunity at a contract that is long term with significant money, and in all likelihood he’s gonna opt out. Especially with so many teams with cap room. I suppose that could happen, but will the teams that have the space, and aren't quite contending yet be willing to pay that kind of coin? Fun summer coming! But 1st Gallo has a job to do! It’s like buying a house or used car— all it takes is ONE person to fall in love to pay through the nose on it. With all these teams having cap, someone is gonna miss out on their initial targets and be jilted— Gallo, TJ Warren, and Harris as second tier types after the 90+ rated FAs will be the beneficiaries lol
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Mar 5, 2020 18:41:24 GMT
I suppose that could happen, but will the teams that have the space, and aren't quite contending yet be willing to pay that kind of coin? Fun summer coming! But 1st Gallo has a job to do! It’s like buying a house or used car— all it takes is ONE person to fall in love to pay through the nose on it. With all these teams having cap, someone is gonna miss out on their initial targets and be jilted— Gallo, TJ Warren, and Harris as second tier types after the 90+ rated FAs will be the beneficiaries lol I see, Gallo to the spurs 20-21 Haha, just playing or am I?
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 5, 2020 18:43:19 GMT
It’s like buying a house or used car— all it takes is ONE person to fall in love to pay through the nose on it. With all these teams having cap, someone is gonna miss out on their initial targets and be jilted— Gallo, TJ Warren, and Harris as second tier types after the 90+ rated FAs will be the beneficiaries lol I see, Gallo to the spurs 20-21 Haha, just playing or am I? I have $79 MM in projected cap— if I’m not a major player for all the bigger FAs, trying to take advantage of guys like Doncic and SGA over producing relative to their cap numbers, then I shouldn’t be a GM lol
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 5, 2020 18:43:51 GMT
George Gervin has been fined for tampering.
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Mar 5, 2020 18:44:55 GMT
George Gervin has been fined for tampering. For real though 😂 😂😂😂😂
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 5, 2020 18:46:38 GMT
George Gervin has been fined for tampering. How is this tampering — literally using logic here with a guy who is 31 and if we had designated PAs that weren’t also GMs, you’d bet they would be saying “Yes go to market” lol
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Post by Jerry West on Mar 5, 2020 18:48:00 GMT
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 5, 2020 18:54:36 GMT
Alex English better be ready to pay up for Tobias Harris And Glenn Robinson better be ready to back up the brinks truck for Myles Turner #FullMax
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Post by James Kay on Mar 5, 2020 18:56:17 GMT
Great piece Josh! Thing about Gallo is, why leave all that money on the table this year? Of course he's not getting any younger and surely wants a new contract, But leave 30 mil on the table for 1 more season, while playing on a top notch team in d5? I doubt it, but that's just my opinion! He’s 31 about to be 32 and there are 9 teams who have enough cap room right to offer a 9 yr vet full max— this is likely his last opportunity at a contract that is long term with significant money, and in all likelihood he’s gonna opt out. Especially with so many teams with cap room. If you offer Gallo a full 4 year vet max you forfeit your GM spot lmao
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 5, 2020 19:01:53 GMT
He’s 31 about to be 32 and there are 9 teams who have enough cap room right to offer a 9 yr vet full max— this is likely his last opportunity at a contract that is long term with significant money, and in all likelihood he’s gonna opt out. Especially with so many teams with cap room. If you offer Gallo a full 4 year vet max you forfeit your GM spot lmao I will not be the GM doing that lol, but stranger things have happened in D5...like Robert Covington getting an enormous deal that was, what, $25-30 MM more than any other offer? It only took ONE GM to want to do that deal— wouldn’t be shocked by history repeating itself
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Post by Jared Montini on Mar 5, 2020 19:05:41 GMT
We better not cap any FA offers this year. If some idiot offers Gallo a huge max, let them.
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 5, 2020 19:08:34 GMT
We better not cap any FA offers this year. If some idiot offers Gallo a huge max, let them. ^this. Don’t save dumb GMs from themselves
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Post by Billy King on Mar 5, 2020 20:05:22 GMT
all the good bkn free agents are hard to get
what unbiased analysis by josh as usual
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 5, 2020 20:37:50 GMT
An article about Brookyln, nice. Just to negate the passive attempt to save his players, please make all Brooklyn players leave this off-season. K, thanks.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 5, 2020 20:41:27 GMT
I honestly tried to be unbiased, but it is obviously hard when its your own players. Which of my guys do you think are in the wrong bucket?
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Mar 5, 2020 20:44:05 GMT
I honestly tried to be unbiased, but it is obviously hard when its your own players. Which of my guys do you think are in the wrong bucket? Booker is gone! Stop fuckin around!
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Post by James Kay on Mar 5, 2020 21:27:03 GMT
I honestly tried to be unbiased, but it is obviously hard when its your own players. Which of my guys do you think are in the wrong bucket? Personally I would've put KP one tier lower (this is his first season playing on the Nets, has been injured until now) and Kyrie (no BRs) one tier lower but overall you were rather reasonable with your own players.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 5, 2020 21:53:44 GMT
If Brooklyn maxes Porzingis and Booker, I see no reason they go anywhere. Kyrie went to the Nets IRL and joined up with Durant to chase rings. Brooklyn is a top 3 team in the East. I can't see these players leaving Brooklyn provided he doesn't low ball them. They shouldn't take pay cuts to stay, but if we're talking max money, I can't see Brooklyn losing these guys.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 6, 2020 14:18:34 GMT
LOL. A lot of people fell on a trap.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Mar 6, 2020 19:09:35 GMT
how about LeBron coming home to Miami?
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Post by Tom Izzo on Mar 6, 2020 19:34:18 GMT
LeBron went to LA in real life and ultimately teamed up with Anthony Davis. I can't see D5 Miami luring LeBron away from a top East team in Boston, with tons of talent, or a similar situation in LA.
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