Sacramento - Houston - Lakers

[Amare Stoudemire]

Houston Trades:
(85) Chris Paul $40,000,000 $40,450,000 $40,800,000
(73) Josh Okogie $1,695,100 $1,908,700 $3,258,252 $4,717,948
2020 Houston 1st
2021 Houston 2nd
2022 Houston 2nd
2022 Toronto 2nd
2023 Houston 2nd
Total salary out: $41,695,100

Houston Receives:
(85) CJ McCollum $27,377,294 $29,287,338 $31,197,382 $33,107,426
(77) Ersan Ilyasova $7,000,000 $7,525,000 $8,089,735
(63) Tony Bradley $898,310 $1,796,620
Total salary incoming: $35,275,604

LA Lakers Trade:
(77) Andre iguodala $3,835,600 $4,103,200
Total salary out: $3,835,600

LA Lakers Receive:
(63) Jacob Evans $898,310 $1,796,620
(66) Admiral Schofield $898,310 $1,796,620
2021 Houston 2nd
Total salary incoming: $1,796,620

Sacramento Trades:
(85) CJ McCollum $27,377,294 $29,287,338 $31,197,382
$33,107,426
(77) Ersan Ilyasova $7,000,000 $7,525,000 $8,089,735
(66) Admiral Schofield $898,310 $1,796,620
(63) Tony Bradley $898,310 $1,796,620
(63) Jacob Evans $898,310 $1,796,620
Total salary out: $37,072,224 *125 - $46,340,280

Sacramento Receives:
(85) Chris Paul $40,000,000 $40,450,000 $40,800,000
(77) Andre iguodala $3,835,600 $4,103,200
(73) Josh Okogie $1,695,100 $1,908,700 $3,258,252 $4,717,948
2020 Houston 1st
2022 Houston 2nd
2022 Toronto 2nd
2023 Houston 2nd
Total salary incoming: $45,530,700

I accept Tom Izzo & Mark Price to concur

[Amare Stoudemire]

I accept
I'm fully aware of Paul's age and injury issues, and I love CJ alot but while doing research on this I'm willing to take this gamble
To me CJ has been fine this year even though his averages have gone down. Imo he's hit his ceiling and may not even be a 85 soon.
Paul was just dropped to a 85 but his numbers are really decent and his advanced stats are way better than cj this year along with Paul being a all-star this year shows he's still got it. He just needs to stay healthy, have a little load Management and imo hes still the point God!
I also get a prospect I have been high on in okogie that I have watched since he played at Georgia tech! Along with restocking our draft assests that include a 1st in 2020 which I did not have, and a rejuvenated iguodala who can give the 2nd unit some defensive grit!

So yes I'm taking a gamble with the point God but if he can stay healthy I feel I lose very little in production as we make are playoff push, while also adding some well needed draft assests, and okogie

So I'll roll the dice
Great talks guys and good luck

[Tom Izzo]

So allow me to explain really quickly.

I know I likely overpaid for CJ McCollum, but I didn't really have a choice here. Moving forward, I had to move Chris Paul. We are set on building around Kemba Walker and Giannis. Kemba may opt out this summer, and if he does, I can't see him resigning when the PG position is already filled with CP3.

I do think that CP3 is underrated in this league. The man was just traded for Russell Westbrook in real life, he's having a great year and just made the All-Star team. Despite all of that, this league values youth and draft picks a TON. So Chris Paul, at 34 and with a 3 year, $40M per year contract, was very hard to move. Even with the added picks, the best offers I was receiving were basically wanting me to give Paul away, as if they were doing me some favor.

So getting McCollum, a border line All-Star, a true SG, and only parting with one 1st, was a good move for our franchise. We can't afford to have Kemba Walker leave the Rockets this summer and need him to have full control of the PG position.

I've effectively turned Mike Conley into CJ McCollum, and if you had asked me at the start of the year if I'd do that, the answer would have been a resounding yes.

I accept the trade and welcome the new Houston Rocket backcourt of Kemba Walker and CJ McCollum to join Giannis as we aim to take control of the West.

[Andrei Kirilenko]

Feb 19, 2020 19:59:31 GMT Tom Izzo said:

McCollum, a border line All-Star

 




 

[Jerry West]

I would like to purpose a rule (after this trade): X amount of time before players can be traded again, so we don't have players playing for 5 teams in one year

[Mark Price]

I accept. I need any draft picks I can get.

[Amare Stoudemire]

Ian Noble
Alex English
Bryan Colangelo
Danny Longley
Walt Frazier

For votes please gentleman, thanks

[Amare Stoudemire]

Feb 19, 2020 20:20:07 GMT Mark Price said:

I accept. I need any draft picks I can get.

Don't forget to state who you will release to keep your roster at 15 mark

[Tom Izzo]

Feb 19, 2020 20:05:49 GMT Jerry West said:

I would like to purpose a rule (after this trade): X amount of time before players can be traded again, so we don't have players playing for 5 teams in one year

This rule doesn't really work for D5.


Would make more sense if we didn't have turnover every year and a boom/bust mentality. Again, there are no incentives to competing unless you have a legitimate shot at a championship. No jobs on the line, no millions of dollars/fan revenue/stadiums to fill.

So given the system is set up in this way I don't see any reason to restrict people from moving players around. 

[Alex English]

This Chris Paul contract seems like a hot potato. Someone will eventually get stuck paying him $40m when he has no value left. Overall this seems pretty fair though, I accept.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Feb 20, 2020 0:09:07 GMT Alex English said:

This Chris Paul contract seems like a hot potato. Someone will eventually get stuck paying him $40m when he has no value left. Overall this seems pretty fair though, I accept.

And those words came from Alex English, ladies and gentlemen.

[Tom Izzo]

Feb 20, 2020 0:09:07 GMT Alex English said:

This Chris Paul contract seems like a hot potato. Someone will eventually get stuck paying him $40m when he has no value left. Overall this seems pretty fair though, I accept.

I don't really agree with this. I think people are treating Chris Paul like he's suddenly going to fall off a cliff. He's given no indication whatsoever that he won't be a productive player in two years. Will he be an All-Star? Maybe, maybe not. But I think he's not going to fall off like so many here think.

[Alex English]

Feb 20, 2020 1:05:01 GMT Tom Izzo said:

Feb 20, 2020 0:09:07 GMT Alex English said:

This Chris Paul contract seems like a hot potato. Someone will eventually get stuck paying him $40m when he has no value left. Overall this seems pretty fair though, I accept.

I don't really agree with this. I think people are treating Chris Paul like he's suddenly going to fall off a cliff. He's given no indication whatsoever that he won't be a productive player in two years. Will he be an All-Star? Maybe, maybe not. But I think he's not going to fall off like so many here think.

I don't know, I'd say last year was a pretty clear indication, and even the first 25 or so games of this year. He's bounced back and had a really good season since then, but even then, he hasn't been as impactful as two seasons ago. Maybe he won't drop off a cliff, but he's clearly fading. The best you can hope for is that he'll be really overpaid but still productive.

[Walt Frazier]

I feel like Sacramento gets a little too much for the "burden" of CP3. Best young player (Okogie), best pick plus almost all the other picks, just to basically move from McCollum to CP3 and also get a better bench piece?

That said, I see strong reasons for the other teams in the deal as well, I just think Sacramento got too many young/draft assets tbh. And I mean, that's my opinion. I totally believe that Tom shopped around and this is the best deal for the value CP3 has in this league, I just wish CP3's value wasn't quite that low, that's all.

Accept.

[Tom Izzo]

Yeah, I agree with you. I wish CP3's value wasn't so low either. I was getting offered high 70 players for CP3 and 2 1sts.

It's kind of absurd the low value that Paul has right now. Our league, in my opinion, has put such a huge emphasis on youth that the scales are a little tilted.

In any case, I for sure had to overpay for CJ. But my hands were tied with the situation the previous owner left me in.

[Ghazny Dimalen]

Good job buddy. At first i decline the houston offer because of the age of cp3 but after amare and i talk and convince the benefits if this trade wr decide to go the trade.

[Tim Duncan]

I agree that Chris Paul has been brilliant this year but i think due to his good season,people forget about his injury history.He has been very injury prone and combine that with his age i dont think you would wanna pay him that contract

[Amare Stoudemire]

Feb 20, 2020 3:57:32 GMT Tim Duncan said:

I agree that Chris Paul has been brilliant this year but i think due to his good season,people forget about his injury history.He has been very injury prone and combine that with his age i dont think you would wanna pay him that contract

He could easily be brilliant again next year as well, and in the final year of his contract, the the very least he will have a juicy 40 mil expiring contract I can use, or if he's still producing albeit not at point God level we have no problem him retiring as a king!
And we picked up a great prospect that can continue to develop in okogie and took our draft capital from 2 picks in the next 4 years too 6 picks (3 1sts) in the next four years, to also have some prospects for our future!

Imo Paul is producing just as good if not better than cj this year which doesn't hurt us at all this year, while picking up alot of future assets

I love the deal but that's just me

[Tim Duncan]

Feb 20, 2020 4:13:22 GMT Amare Stoudemire said:

Feb 20, 2020 3:57:32 GMT Tim Duncan said:

I agree that Chris Paul has been brilliant this year but i think due to his good season,people forget about his injury history.He has been very injury prone and combine that with his age i dont think you would wanna pay him that contract

He could easily be brilliant again next year as well, and in the final year of his contract, the the very least he will have a juicy 40 mil expiring contract I can use, or if he's still producing albeit not at point God level we have no problem him retiring as a king!
And we picked up a great prospect that can continue to develop in okogie and took our draft capital from 2 picks in the next 4 years too 6 picks (3 1sts) in the next four years, to also have some prospects for our future!

Imo Paul is producing just as good if not better than cj this year which doesn't hurt us at all this year, while picking up alot of future assets

I love the deal but that's just me

I like the deal for you but i was just talking about how i think CP3 should be valued as some people think he isnt valued correctly


Edit-Also if he falls off a cliff or has another major injury,this could be bad for your title contention which is something i would be wary about but as of this moment i like this for you

[Amare Stoudemire]

Ian Noble
Danny Longley
Bryan Colangelo

1 more vote to pass please

[Ian Noble]

I like this for the Kings the most. CP3 and picks?! Well done.

I accept.

[Bryan Colangelo]

Accept

[Amare Stoudemire]

Awesome
Trade passed

[Ian Noble]

Trade passed

[Amare Stoudemire]

Feb 21, 2020 18:16:18 GMT Ian Noble said:

Trade passed

Missing the 2022 Houston 2nd on the draft Rights page!