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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 31, 2019 13:51:13 GMT
Current: 80 Proposed: 85 Have you considered Jaylen Brown? ProgressCeltics are sitting strong as 2nd Seed in the East, Jaylen's now being talked about as a fringe possibility to be an All Star, he's taken a huge leap forward compared to last season: 2018/19: 13.0ppg | 4.2rpg | 1.4apg on 47/34/66 2019/20: 20.6ppg | 7.0rpg | 2.4apg on 52/40/75 Who Leads the Celtics?There's no real distinction between Jaylen and Jayson in terms of who is better any more. In fact Jayson has weirdly identical stats but falls short of Jaylen's much better efficiency. Kemba's not really any better: Jaylen: 20.6ppg | 7.0rpg | 2.4apg on 52/40/75 Jayson: 21.2ppg | 7.0rpg | 2.9apg on 42/36/84 Kemba: 22.5ppg | 3.9rpg | 5.2apg on 43/40/87 Considering IntensifiesMost noticeably Jaylen's dribbling has improved so ridiculously compared to previous seasons, and his shooting has also become much better. I am hoping for an 85 rating for him, since Jayson Tatum got an 83 rating last year contributing much less (15.7ppg | 6.0rpg | 2.1apg on 45/37/86), but it's to be expected that shaving off his flat-top in the off season could demote him a few points.
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Post by George Gervin on Dec 31, 2019 14:20:40 GMT
I can go 85 — I think Brown at this level is easier to see and peg than Brandon Ingram, as Brown has had success in the playoffs in addition to the regular season. He’s also played a lot more games (45+ when assessing regular season plus playoff participation) and bigger progression sample to see vs. Ingram.
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Post by Jerry West on Dec 31, 2019 15:14:46 GMT
Yeah 85 seems good, that All-Star line. Ian Noble do you believe ingram is better than jaylen?
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 31, 2019 15:33:49 GMT
Yeah 85 seems good, that All-Star line. Ian Noble do you believe ingram is better than jaylen? I think Jaylen is a just as good of a player but he's had to share usage and his stats have suffered, and that's unfortunately the biggest thing when rating players. Ingram is the leader of his team whilst Jaylen has had to compete with Jayson, Kemba, Hayward, Horford, Kyrie etc.etc. I think if you swap Jaylen for any other good player on a bad team (Ingram, Booker, Trae Young etc.) he'd score almost as much, and defend much much better, than any of those guys.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 31, 2019 16:15:55 GMT
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Post by Jerry West on Dec 31, 2019 16:24:34 GMT
Yeah 85 seems good, that All-Star line. Ian Noble do you believe ingram is better than jaylen? I think Jaylen is a just as good of a player but he's had to share usage and his stats have suffered, and that's unfortunately the biggest thing when rating players. Ingram is the leader of his team whilst Jaylen has had to compete with Jayson, Kemba, Hayward, Horford, Kyrie etc.etc. I think if you swap Jaylen for any other good player on a bad team (Ingram, Booker, Trae Young etc.) he'd score almost as much, and defend much much better, than any of those guys. I agree with you, that's why I dont agree with Ingram being an 87 and Jaylen an 85
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 31, 2019 17:04:59 GMT
84 beast on both ends. Just isn't a great playmaker yet
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Amare Stoudemire
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Dec 31, 2019 18:11:25 GMT
109.... Lol
(85)
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Post by James Kay on Dec 31, 2019 18:16:23 GMT
I think if you swap Jaylen for any other good player on a bad team (Ingram, Booker, Trae Young etc.) he'd score almost as much, and defend much much better, than any of those guys. l o l if you think Jaylen can score like Book or Trae. 84.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 31, 2019 18:17:44 GMT
I think if you swap Jaylen for any other good player on a bad team (Ingram, Booker, Trae Young etc.) he'd score almost as much, and defend much much better, than any of those guys. l o l if you think Jaylen can score like Book or Trae. 84. I don't that's why I said "almost as much"
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Post by Jared Montini on Dec 31, 2019 20:35:43 GMT
84
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Dec 31, 2019 20:59:05 GMT
82
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jan 1, 2020 2:48:48 GMT
85. Good player on a good team
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 1, 2020 18:41:24 GMT
I'm going 83 for now, simply b/c we've seen him kind of go on swings in his career so far. Great half season here, horrible (at least on the shooting end) half season there, etc.
His stats warrant higher, I kind of want to go 85, but I'll go there (or maybe higher) if he keeps it up the entire season / most of the season, this time.
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