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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 17, 2019 9:42:07 GMT
Current: 80 Proposed: 87 Ingram's ridiculous improvement actually started last year with the Lakers where he averaged post all-star break: 27.8ppg 7.5rpg 2.4apg It's carried forward into this season where statistically at least he's now a Top 20 player, averaging insane numbers: 25.0ppg 7.0rpg 3.7apg The only players to post those numbers age 22 or below are listed here:  More than that - he's doing it on supreme efficiency: 49.6/40.8/83.8 shooting. In comparison, checking out Gervin's Doncic thread, Doncic in comparison is shooting 48.1/32.6/80.3 (Doncic however doing it with much more usage and god-tier stats). This isn't some flash-in-the-pan performance either, the season is almost 1/3rd done, we're 23 games in now. YES the Pelicans suck this year but Ingram's managing to be the primary focus of every team's defense whilst shooting the lights out.. The only players to post Ingram's stats and have a field goal percentage above 49% are listed below ( bball-ref link): Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
David Robinson
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Shaquille O'Neal
Tim Duncan
Charles Barkley
Oscar Robertson
Karl Malone
Larry Bird
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Julius Erving
Bob McAdoo
Alex English
Anthony Davis
Karl-Anthony Towns
Brandon Ingram I would liken Ingram's current output to Devin Booker's last season. Booker put up similar stats but only shot 32.6% from 3PT, compared to 40.8% for Ingram. 86 rated 22yo Booker: 26.6ppg 4.1rpg 6.8apg on 46.7/32.6/86.6 (team win pct 0.232) 80 rated 22yo Ingram: 25.0ppg 7.0rpg 3.7apg on 49.6/40.8/83.8 (team win pct 0.222) It's time to show this long boi some love. |
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Post by George Gervin on Dec 17, 2019 12:16:18 GMT
85
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Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 17, 2019 12:34:49 GMT
85
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Dec 17, 2019 13:47:51 GMT
86
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Dec 17, 2019 14:15:22 GMT
86
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Dec 17, 2019 14:17:12 GMT
85
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 17, 2019 14:34:23 GMT
Too early for me
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 17, 2019 15:14:28 GMT
You want me to post a Trae Young thread?  |
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Post by Tom Izzo on Dec 17, 2019 16:34:16 GMT
He's been balling out. I'll go with 84.5
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 17, 2019 16:35:06 GMT
You want me to post a Trae Young thread? Nah I just didn't think he was very good last year and his rise this season is primarily based upon a huge jump in both volume and percentage from 3. Im skeptical for now. If he keeps the shooting up through the all star break then I'll believe it |
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Post by Tim Duncan on Dec 17, 2019 17:11:22 GMT
85
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Post by Mark Price on Dec 17, 2019 17:35:40 GMT
85
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Post by James Kay on Dec 17, 2019 17:52:52 GMT
87
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Post by Jerry West on Dec 17, 2019 19:03:01 GMT
84
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Post by Alex English on Dec 18, 2019 1:17:28 GMT
85
I like Ingram, but it's hard to put full weight into his 25 and 7 stat line when the Pelicans are so bad. Can't really deny his more efficient number though, he's playing well.
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Post by Jared Montini on Dec 18, 2019 2:54:47 GMT
83.5 if we waited a bit longer I’d match all the 85s
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 18, 2019 4:53:51 GMT
85 same exact issue with Booker, defense cancels out his offense.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 18, 2019 9:07:56 GMT
Maybe if this thread is open for long enough the consensus will keep dropping until Ingram actually receives a rating decrease lol
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 19, 2019 14:35:57 GMT
82
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 19, 2019 19:28:13 GMT
Gasol: 6.6ppg | 6.6rpg | 3.4apg Ingram: 25.3ppg | 7.1rpg | 3.7apg Hanamichi Sakuragi you really shouldn't post after smoking that much weed my man. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 19, 2019 22:52:23 GMT
Gasol: 6.6ppg | 6.6rpg | 3.4apg Ingram: 25.3ppg | 7.1rpg | 3.7apg Hanamichi Sakuragi you really shouldn't post after smoking that much weed my man. Two different players. Ingram's usage is 29%. Gasol is 12%. Ingram is being fed in a bad team. Gasol was boxed in a role in a good team. Yeah. I have started to put those things to consideration and whether you agree with me or not, that is in you now. Just remember, numbers alone doesn't accurately tell the skill level of the players. You can continue to live in the world and a lot of people here are but at the very least, let me live outside of it to give another perspective to this stockwatch scheme. Unless, you want to simply make the ratings a mathematical calculation already? |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 19, 2019 22:54:54 GMT
Gasol: 6.6ppg | 6.6rpg | 3.4apg Ingram: 25.3ppg | 7.1rpg | 3.7apg Hanamichi Sakuragi you really shouldn't post after smoking that much weed my man. And may I kindly ask that you do not use drug-related jokes towards me. It is not funny and I am disgusted. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 19, 2019 23:00:00 GMT
Gasol: 6.6ppg | 6.6rpg | 3.4apg Ingram: 25.3ppg | 7.1rpg | 3.7apg Hanamichi Sakuragi you really shouldn't post after smoking that much weed my man. And may I kindly ask that you do not use drug-related jokes towards me. It is not funny and I am disgusted. I don't think Duterte reads D5, you should be safe lol |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 19, 2019 23:06:46 GMT
And may I kindly ask that you do not use drug-related jokes towards me. It is not funny and I am disgusted. I don't think Duterte reads D5, you should be safe lol I mean it Brian. That is not funny to me. I hope, you respect that. |
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Dec 19, 2019 23:57:56 GMT
I don't think Duterte reads D5, you should be safe lol I mean it Brian. That is not funny to me. I hope, you respect that. I certainly respect your position bro, sorry for the dicks that don't! |
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 20, 2019 11:11:16 GMT
Gasol: 6.6ppg | 6.6rpg | 3.4apg Ingram: 25.3ppg | 7.1rpg | 3.7apg Hanamichi Sakuragi you really shouldn't post after smoking that much weed my man. And may I kindly ask that you do not use drug-related jokes towards me. It is not funny and I am disgusted. Sorry mate, didn't mean to cause offence. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 20, 2019 14:21:48 GMT
That said feel free to call me Len Bias.
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Post by Larry Bird on Dec 23, 2019 13:22:10 GMT
85
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Post by James Kay on Jan 18, 2020 22:11:46 GMT
Did this get closed? My main reason for not going higher was caution regarding his ability to sustain these numbers but in the month after this was posted/my vote he's arguably been even better, which is crazy. Edited my post from 84.5-87.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 18, 2020 22:47:28 GMT
He just got processed to an 85. Your 87 likely wouldn't have bumped him higher, there were a lot of votes here. But yea... THREAD CLOSED - Ian Noble |
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