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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 8, 2020 8:19:27 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Aug 8, 2020 14:17:40 GMT
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Tim Duncan
Former Jazz GM
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Post by Tim Duncan on Aug 10, 2020 12:01:45 GMT
Jayson Tatum is clutch!
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Post by Reggie Miller on Aug 11, 2020 19:25:29 GMT
If we big up our players, do they get buffed in the next ratings watch?
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Post by Tom Izzo on Aug 11, 2020 21:06:32 GMT
It's just a chance to brag and highlight your guys.
To increase or decrease player ratings you have to submit a stock watch thread
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Aug 13, 2020 20:30:36 GMT
Keldon Johnson quietly doing great in the bubble.
Put up 24 pts / 11 reb / 3 ast in a win against Houston.
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Post by Reggie Miller on Aug 13, 2020 23:35:48 GMT
It's just a chance to brag and highlight your guys. To increase or decrease player ratings you have to submit a stock watch thread Rephrasing the question. Can a stock watch be based on posts here? Can stock watches be influenced by information on this thread?
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Post by Tom Izzo on Aug 14, 2020 1:57:29 GMT
It's just a chance to brag and highlight your guys. To increase or decrease player ratings you have to submit a stock watch thread Rephrasing the question. Can a stock watch be based on posts here? Can stock watches be influenced by information on this thread? I mean... Kind of, in a way I guess. But not really This is just a thread to brag on your guys. A stock watch will have a debate where you will talk about stats and dive deeper into making a case for an increase or decrease.
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Post by Jared Montini on Aug 14, 2020 4:03:03 GMT
Caris Levert is an absolute monster.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Aug 15, 2020 21:14:26 GMT
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 18, 2020 14:14:48 GMT
not my guy but jeeeez
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 18, 2020 14:38:37 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on Aug 18, 2020 15:21:10 GMT
You got the wrong picture here...it should be Luka, not Jaylen
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Tim Duncan
Former Jazz GM
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Post by Tim Duncan on Aug 18, 2020 15:25:43 GMT
You got the wrong picture here...it should be Luka, not Jaylen Or Tatum
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Post by Alex English on Aug 19, 2020 0:57:05 GMT
Nikola Vucevic lit up the Bucks with 35 points and 14 rebounds, leading the Magic to a game 1 upset.
He's one of the best offensive centers in the NBA and he's in the prime of his career at 29 years old. You can trade for him and get his Bird rights if you have any decent package of prospects/picks.
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Post by George Gervin on Aug 20, 2020 3:59:09 GMT
With his output tonight, Doncic has had the best playoff debut for any player in league history through his first two games with 70 pts, 17 assists, and 15 rebounds. His scoring output edges Kareem for the most in his first two playoff games.
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Tim Duncan
Former Jazz GM
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Post by Tim Duncan on Aug 20, 2020 4:14:47 GMT
Tatum with 33/5/5 on 8/12 from 3
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Post by Reggie Miller on Aug 21, 2020 2:09:25 GMT
I thought there was a time Vuc already plateaued? There was even speculation that Gordon's development was stumping Nikola's growth, similar to the dynamic between Turner and Sabonis.
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 24, 2020 7:39:33 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on Aug 24, 2020 11:35:08 GMT
Doncic’s stellar game last night was just the third ever in the playoffs that was 40+ pts, 15+ boards, and 10+ assists. The only other two players with stat lines hitting those minimums are Charles Barkley and Oscar Robertson.
It was also Luka’s first back to back triple double in the playoffs, a feat matched by only eight other players in playoff history.
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 24, 2020 12:42:12 GMT
Doncic is superb, but I'd be interested in what everyone thought about the current state of stat inflation.
It's like when Westbrook averaged a triple double two seasons in a row but we all knew it didn't mean a great deal.
There's a handful of players who really benefit, like Doncic, Westbrook, Ben Simmons, Giannis, Late-career-Lebron, Harden etc. I get the feeling that, although these guys are all great players, all it means is they're being relied upon more in their teams offense and therefore statistically benefitting. It's why none of us are raving about how Doncic is clearly better than Michael Jordan in his second year despite being statistically better.
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Aug 24, 2020 12:52:12 GMT
Doncic is superb, but I'd be interested in what everyone thought about the current state of stat inflation. It's like when Westbrook averaged a triple double two seasons in a row but we all knew it didn't mean a great deal. There's a handful of players who really benefit, like Doncic, Westbrook, Ben Simmons, Giannis, Late-career-Lebron, Harden etc. I get the feeling that, although these guys are all great players, all it means is they're being relied upon more in their teams offense and therefore statistically benefitting. It's why none of us are raving about how Doncic is clearly better than Michael Jordan in his second year despite being statistically better. Defense and the zebras as well play such a big part! I call it pussy ball compared to back when Jordan and those boys played! When you came in the paint, you got blasted with a HARD foul and that was standard back then!! Most of these so called stars wouldn't last a whole season back in that era Ian Noble!
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Post by George Gervin on Aug 24, 2020 14:18:34 GMT
Doncic is superb, but I'd be interested in what everyone thought about the current state of stat inflation. It's like when Westbrook averaged a triple double two seasons in a row but we all knew it didn't mean a great deal. There's a handful of players who really benefit, like Doncic, Westbrook, Ben Simmons, Giannis, Late-career-Lebron, Harden etc. I get the feeling that, although these guys are all great players, all it means is they're being relied upon more in their teams offense and therefore statistically benefitting. It's why none of us are raving about how Doncic is clearly better than Michael Jordan in his second year despite being statistically better. I think stat inflation goes both ways— in this era, defense and how games are called influence stat lines and the ease at which certain guys can dominate. However, guys like Wilt who averaged I think 24 rpg in one year played against opponents who didn’t have the same athletic traits or skills that today’s players do. It definitely was a more physical era, but when Wilt or Bill Russell look like gods in their era, I think it pushes the conversation in the direction of “stat era truncation” where to compare guys it has to be in a block of time vs. trying to do this kind of cross generational comparison.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Aug 24, 2020 15:34:42 GMT
I've been thinking that the bubble has led to some insane stats. It seems like some of these guys are pouring in high volume numbers far more regularly in the bubble. I'm not sure if that's true or not, and if it is, I wonder why. Less travel fatigue?
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Post by Alex English on Aug 25, 2020 17:00:28 GMT
Vucevic went off again. He's the only reason the Magic have been respectable against the Bucks. Who wants him?
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 26, 2020 7:37:54 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 31, 2020 6:53:29 GMT
Stock watches incoming for Mitchell and Murray I imagine, regardless who wins this series. This was a coming out party of two young superstars. Like a young DWade and Steph. streamable.com/0mnv0i
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 31, 2020 12:55:14 GMT
They've been playing great. I just worry we will overreact to playoff series again. They're a different animal.
These two should probably get bumps regardless, I just hope we temper it a little bit. Unless one of these two carries their team to the NBA Finals, consistently doing what they're doing right now against 2-3 other opponents.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Aug 31, 2020 15:06:25 GMT
I would be opposed to any bumps from playoff bubble games. I would be hesitant to do anything until the start of next season
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Post by Jared Montini on Aug 31, 2020 16:36:49 GMT
Playoff games and bubble games should 100% count toward a stock watch. We should however temper the hype. Mitchell and Murray have both warranted increases but it doesn’t need to be a huge jump.
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