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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 29, 2019 18:56:47 GMT
2019 Player OptionsNB: The Paul George player option is still under discussion.  Atlanta HawksIN - Nikola Mirotic - $17,363,716 Charlotte HornetsIN - Paul George - $34,189,386 Chicago BullsIN - Demarcus Cousins - $33,777,067 - $37,492,544 IN - Derrick Favors - $26,993,568 - $29,962,860  Dallas MavericksIN - Will Barton - $24,617,358IN - Spencer Hawes - $4,065,930 Indiana PacersOUT - Draymond Green - $22,771,056With a weak free agent class and Draymond nearly 30 years old, it looks like he could get his last big payday this off season. LA ClippersIN - Carmelo Anthony - $35,651,884 - $35,651,884  Memphis GrizzliesOUT - Davis Bertans - $2,750,000The committee felt like Bertans would receive more money on the open market. New Orleans PelicansIN - Gordon Hayward - $25,807,196 - $28,645,987
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Post by George Gervin on Sept 29, 2019 19:32:20 GMT
Is Mirotic eligible to opt in? He signed with a team in Spain and won’t be back in the NBA for at least the next few years
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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 29, 2019 19:38:55 GMT
Is Mirotic eligible to opt in? He signed with a team in Spain and won’t be back in the NBA for at least the next few years For the time being he can play out the year for ATL, but then next off season I will add him to the list of players to remove. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Sept 30, 2019 0:56:19 GMT
Can't wait for the shit show after the PG decision is announced
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Post by Jay Z on Sept 30, 2019 3:48:03 GMT
Is Mirotic eligible to opt in? He signed with a team in Spain and won’t be back in the NBA for at least the next few years For the time being he can play out the year for ATL, but then next off season I will add him to the list of players to remove. Why did Niko opt in? Tweet from Marc Stein showing Niko turning down a long term deal (3 yr, 45 million) to go to Europe. Was this considered when you guys made the decision? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 30, 2019 13:03:45 GMT
For the time being he can play out the year for ATL, but then next off season I will add him to the list of players to remove. Why did Niko opt in? Tweet from Marc Stein showing Niko turning down a long term deal (3 yr, 45 million) to go to Europe. Was this considered when you guys made the decision? I suppose not since this was decided back before I postponed the off season. I think we can reconvene on that decision then, I need to look into the exact situation. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Sept 30, 2019 14:04:14 GMT
For the time being he can play out the year for ATL, but then next off season I will add him to the list of players to remove. Why did Niko opt in? Tweet from Marc Stein showing Niko turning down a long term deal (3 yr, 45 million) to go to Europe. Was this considered when you guys made the decision? It seems like he did that because he was disappointed with the way his career went IRL NBA. He was expecting more. That means if D5 Mirotic is getting more minutes than RL Mirotic, the chance of him opting in should be way more higher. |
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Post by Jay Z on Sept 30, 2019 15:23:23 GMT
Why did Niko opt in? Tweet from Marc Stein showing Niko turning down a long term deal (3 yr, 45 million) to go to Europe. Was this considered when you guys made the decision? It seems like he did that because he was disappointed with the way his career went IRL NBA. He was expecting more. That means if D5 Mirotic is getting more minutes than RL Mirotic, the chance of him opting in should be way more higher. I think that's looking into it a bit much Hana with the "disapointing career" take. He was about to get paid to play a (seemingly) large role for a team who looks to be fighting for one of the top 4 seeds in the stacked west (Conley, Mitchell, Ingles, Mirotic, Gobert looks pretty good on paper). 3 yr 45 mill vs 1 yr 17 mill is not even a competition, and the fact that he played 7 more minutes in D5 vs IRL shouldn't hold enough weight to keep Niko in D5 for another year, especially when we don't have any ability to adjust the minutes a player gets outside of starting them vs benching them. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Oct 1, 2019 0:04:17 GMT
It seems like he did that because he was disappointed with the way his career went IRL NBA. He was expecting more. That means if D5 Mirotic is getting more minutes than RL Mirotic, the chance of him opting in should be way more higher. I think that's looking into it a bit much Hana with the "disapointing career" take. He was about to get paid to play a (seemingly) large role for a team who looks to be fighting for one of the top 4 seeds in the stacked west (Conley, Mitchell, Ingles, Mirotic, Gobert looks pretty good on paper). 3 yr 45 mill vs 1 yr 17 mill is not even a competition, and the fact that he played 7 more minutes in D5 vs IRL shouldn't hold enough weight to keep Niko in D5 for another year, especially when we don't have any ability to adjust the minutes a player gets outside of starting them vs benching them. He's the highest paid player in European basketball making 26 mil Euros over 3 years. I have to agree with Jay Z's take that Mirotic should probably not have accepted this contract and potentially should be moved off the active player list. Clearly money wasn't the biggest motivator for Mirotic and his real life decision makes that painfully obvious. As far as I'm concerned if Paul George is undecided this list isn't final and this deserves a conversation and that's coming from someone who stands to see Jay Z as giant competition in free agency this offseason so if anything if I was an asshole I'd be biased to support him accepting the option. |
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Post by Jay Z on Oct 18, 2019 17:05:40 GMT
Why did Niko opt in? Tweet from Marc Stein showing Niko turning down a long term deal (3 yr, 45 million) to go to Europe. Was this considered when you guys made the decision? I suppose not since this was decided back before I postponed the off season. I think we can reconvene on that decision then, I need to look into the exact situation. Any update on this front Ian? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Oct 18, 2019 17:28:25 GMT
I suppose not since this was decided back before I postponed the off season. I think we can reconvene on that decision then, I need to look into the exact situation. Any update on this front Ian? I'll try and get a decision on this soon. |
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Post by Jay Z on Oct 18, 2019 18:10:08 GMT
Any update on this front Ian? I'll try and get a decision on this soon. No worries/rush, thanks Ian. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Oct 21, 2019 8:23:00 GMT
I'll try and get a decision on this soon. No worries/rush, thanks Ian. We're going to stick with Mirotic opting in. Mirotic was expecting something in the range of $13m/yr for the next four years from the Bulls in the off season in real life, and turned that down for Euroleague money. Here he's got one more year of $17m, so it sort of makes sense that he would play it out and then leave when his contract ended properly like he did in real life. There's also the residual thought that these POs were decided back at the end of June and if I hadn't needed to postpone the off season, this decision would not have needed reviewing and wouldn't have changed. |
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Post by Jay Z on Oct 21, 2019 19:37:53 GMT
We're going to stick with Mirotic opting in. Mirotic was expecting something in the range of $13m/yr for the next four years from the Bulls in the off season in real life, and turned that down for Euroleague money. Here he's got one more year of $17m, so it sort of makes sense that he would play it out and then leave when his contract ended properly like he did in real life. I don't get this, we are going against what a player IRL is doing to keep him in the league. The Stein tweet shows he turned down 15 million a year for 3 years to go back home (45 million total). Shams backs this up by saying he was in the market for 45-50 million dollar contract. The head coach of Barcelona said he turned down a $45 million deal to return to Chicago (I think the Chicago deal was dis-proven, not sure, but leaving it in year to show he was looking at closer to $15 and not $13 a year). If he was in the market for 15 million average over 3 years IRL and turned it down, then why are we opting him into a one year, $17 million dollar deal. If a player wants out, and has the power to leave (through the p.o. in our case), then whats the hold up? There's also the residual thought that these POs were decided back at the end of June and if I hadn't needed to postpone the off season, this decision would not have needed reviewing and wouldn't have changed. The Marc Stein tweet is dated June 29th, the D5 2018/19 schedule states July 1st has the deadline for player options. This is still relevant information. I'm not upset about the decision, Niko can still be productive player on a one year deal, he's expiring, he's (likely) movable if i wanted to free up cap space, I probably won't be able to spend that cap this year if it were available to me, etc. I just fundamentally can't understand the reason for an opt-in. Goes against the players best interest on multiple facets. I find it funny that Niko, who is effectively out of the league, is being forced into his contract even though he has the means and the motive to leave. But a case like Bynum, who couldn't find work IRL, was forced OUT of his D5 contract when he didn't have the means or motive to do so. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Oct 22, 2019 2:31:56 GMT
Yeah I think Jay Z is kinda getting boned here in an instance that he's provided precedent for.
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