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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 11, 2019 11:41:59 GMT
Just getting some of my guys updated now that the season is over. Not a fan of making 2 threads in a year, but Troy Bolton jumped the gun a bit in Collins' first thread and made it after only 12 games. End of Season Stats: 19.5 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 2.0 apg 56% FG 34.8% 3p He has a +6.3 On/Off and incredible has a +7 net rating on the not-so-great Hawks (compared to Trae Young's -2.5 on/off and -10 net rating). He's also average over 1 block per game since the allstar break. Anyway, he sorta does it all, rebounding, 3p shooting, pick and roll. Still improving on defense but seriously did make great strides post-ASB. Current Rating: 80 Suggested Rating: 83 |
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Post by George Gervin on Apr 11, 2019 11:47:06 GMT
83 - he has made huge strides and is still just 22 years old after two full seasons in the league
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Amare Stoudemire
 Sacramento Kings
Starter
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Apr 11, 2019 11:54:12 GMT
85
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Post by Jerry West on Apr 11, 2019 12:38:33 GMT
82, showed a lot of potential last year on defense but this year flopped on that end of the court. Him being higher than Jarret Allen just shows much we devalue defense next to offense.
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Kevin Hollis
Former Thunder GM for 7 years
All Star
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Apr 11, 2019 13:28:30 GMT
81
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Post by Jared Montini on Apr 11, 2019 14:35:18 GMT
82.33
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 11, 2019 15:20:39 GMT
I'm wary of basing player ratings 95% on stats. The quality of the team around them and their W/L record should matter more than it does imho.
Last season for the Hawks, Dennis Shroder was their leading scorer at 19.4ppg and earned an 81 rating as a result. This season his minutes remain almost unchanged and he's regressed in OKC statistically because he's playing for a half-decent team.
The Hawks improved by only 5 wins this season.
John Collins averaged an almost identical 19.5ppg this season and, like with Devin Booker and other above-average players on terrible teams, outside the efficiency stats they're kinda empty stats. Would he be more than a roleplayer for OKC in real life?
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 11, 2019 15:36:32 GMT
I'm wary of basing player ratings 95% on stats. The quality of the team around them and their W/L record should matter more than it does imho. Last season for the Hawks, Dennis Shroder was their leading scorer at 19.4ppg and earned an 81 rating as a result. This season his minutes remain almost unchanged and he's regressed in OKC statistically because he's playing for a half-decent team. The Hawks improved by only 5 wins this season. John Collins averaged an almost identical 19.5ppg this season and, like with Devin Booker and other above-average players on terrible teams, outside the efficiency stats they're kinda empty stats. Would he be more than a roleplayer for OKC in real life? The Hawks actually won 41% of games when Collins started, which correlated to a 33 win season, an improvement of 9 wins over last year. |
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Tim Duncan
Former Jazz GM
Sophomore
Posts: 482
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Post by Tim Duncan on Apr 11, 2019 16:06:06 GMT
82.5
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 11, 2019 17:09:39 GMT
Bad on d. Good at almost everything else. 83
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Apr 11, 2019 18:04:07 GMT
82
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Post by Mark Price on Apr 11, 2019 20:48:14 GMT
82
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Apr 20, 2019 1:44:38 GMT
81
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 20, 2019 2:07:48 GMT
I like him. 81. He gets up to 36+% 3pt shooting look out.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 25, 2019 8:20:16 GMT
Thread closed after 12 votes. New rating = 82
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