Willie Cauley-Stein

[Alex English]

Current Rating: 76
Suggested Rating: 81

Stats:
28.4 mpg, 13.2 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.6 bpg, 54.2 FG%, 50.0 3P%, 56.1 FT%

PER: 18.2 (#1 on the Kings!)
WS/48: 0.140 (#1 on the Kings!)
Boxscore +/-: +1.9 (#1 on the Kings!)
VORP: 1.5 (#1 on the Kings!)


Hey, you guys remember when we used to always trade for people and immediately post a stock watch thread? Good times!

The Sacramento Kings, much to your surprise, have a +500 record and we're more than halfway through the season. DeAaron Fox, Buddy Hield, and the fact that they don't have Georgios Papagiannis anymore, get obvious praise for the team's higher level of play, but if you take a look there is a good argument that Willie Cauley-Stein is actually the #1 reason for the Kings success this season. He's their defensive anchor, leads their team in most player impact stats and his impressive 50/50/50 shooting splits prove he's their best three point shooter too.

I know you'll all be super salty to give me an 80+ center in return for my 80+ center I was forced to salary dump, but let's all grit our teeth and do it anyway.

Here's some quotes from around the league about how good we all think WCS is:

Feb 3, 2019 10:38:34 GMT Andrei Kirilenko said:

Alex gets the best player in the deal in Cauley-Stein.

Feb 3, 2019 15:23:53 GMT Larry Bird said:

I accept. I can't believe I'm giving up WCS in this trade. Alex hoodwinked me again!

LeBron James said:

He got me. That fucking WCS boomed me. He's so good. He's so good. He's so good. He's so good. I want to work out with him this summer.

[Larry Bird]

77

[Alex English]

Feb 5, 2019 2:20:24 GMT Larry Bird said:

87

[George Gervin]

79

[Walt Frazier]

78

[Tom Izzo]

Resorting to fabricating quotes and shit posting rating increases, really, a man of your talents?

[Tom Izzo]

77

79.5

[Alex English]

Feb 5, 2019 3:42:38 GMT Tom Izzo said:

Resorting to fabricating quotes and shit posting rating increases, really, a man of your talents?

Huh? This is a totally legit thread. The Josh Barber quote is real, the Larry Bird quote is obviously fake, and the Lebron one is a meme. I'm only making jokes. I guess I'm just not funny

We gave Bogdan Bogdanovic an 80. I don't see how someone could consider Bogdan to be better than WCS. If you compare their stats and the impact they both have on the Kings, WCS is better in pretty much every way. That's how I got my 81.

Shit, we just gave Daniel Theis a 75 and he averages 6 points and 4 boards. Now we're going to give WCS a 77-78 for putting up 13 and 9 and being one of the most impactful players one his team? That makes no sense. It's the complete lack of consistency from thread to thread and the clearly hype and emotionally driven votes that are the problems with the stock watch section. Not my stupid jokes. I'd go back to trying to write real arguments for rating increases, but nobody seems to care anyway, so what's the point?

[Tom Izzo]

I was half joking trying to force a Star Wars meme into the conversation. But really, you can't expect to get much love after trading for a player and then immediately posting their rating increase. I know people want to and aim to be objective, but it's a shady move. That shouldn't be the driving factor into the conversation, but I find it hard to believe it doesn't influence people.

Anyway, I did change my vote from a 77 to a 79.5. Here are his numbers this season compared to his career averages:




And here they are comparing last season to this season:



He's made progress and improvements. He's taken 2 3-pointers this season and made 1, so that should not even be in the discussion, but I'm assuming you were joking about that, too. If he was a 76 last year with those stats, I think the 79-80 range is probably fair for him with the strides he's made. 

[James Kay]

79.5

[James Kay]

Alex's reaction when the WCS stockwatch thread doesn't go as planned

[Andrei Kirilenko]

He's a solid 80 to me on defense/athleticism alone, and I'm willing to vote 81 based on his passing ability.

[Jerry West]

I'll vote 79 which is the same that Jarret Allen got. And in my opinion Jarret Allen is clearly a better player

[Brian Scalabrine]

79

[Jared Montini]

79

[Kevin Hollis]

78.5.

[Jeremiah Hill]

79 he's fine.

His defense is OK for a big. But 54% shooting is not impressive for someone who shoots 95% of his shots from inside 10 feet. Passing boosts him over a 78.

[Mike Krzyzewski]

78.5

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

79 ^^

[Andrei Kirilenko]

Thread closed after 14 votes. New rating = 79