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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 4, 2018 16:37:48 GMT
As the season is starting soon, I just want to throw out there a brief PSA regarding stat inflation. With the increase in pace has come an increase in basically everything else. Just because your player is getting more points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks, doesn't mean that he is actually any better. He is just playing in an evolving NBA.
The average points in an NBA game has increased from 106.3 to 110.5 this season. That is a 4% increase.
Assists per game have increased from 23.2 to 23.7. That is a 2.2% increase.
Rebounds per game have increased from 43.5 to 4.9. That is a 3.2% increase.
Blocks per game have increased from 4.8 to 5.2. That is an 8.3% increase.
I am not trying to say that no players have improved this year, but I just want everyone to keep this stat-inflation in mind when posting their stock watches. Our average player rating slowly creeps up every year, and it is likely because the average ppg in 2006 when this NBA Live came out was 97.0... that is a 14% increase to today!
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 4, 2018 20:07:06 GMT
This why we should post all stats as per 100 possessions. But for some ridiculous reason people don't like pace adjusted stats here
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 4, 2018 21:14:43 GMT
This is especially true for IRL Sacramento Kings players. The Kings have gone from 29th in Pace to 2nd, last time I checked
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Post by Charles Barkley on Dec 5, 2018 22:14:42 GMT
As the season is starting soon, I just want to throw out there a brief PSA regarding stat inflation. With the increase in pace has come an increase in basically everything else. Just because your player is getting more points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks, doesn't mean that he is actually any better. He is just playing in an evolving NBA. The average points in an NBA game has increased from 106.3 to 110.5 this season. That is a 4% increase. Assists per game have increased from 23.2 to 23.7. That is a 2.2% increase. Rebounds per game have increased from 43.5 to 4.9. That is a 3.2% increase. Blocks per game have increased from 4.8 to 5.2. That is an 8.3% increase. I am not trying to say that no players have improved this year, but I just want everyone to keep this stat-inflation in mind when posting their stock watches. Our average player rating slowly creeps up every year, and it is likely because the average ppg in 2006 when this NBA Live came out was 97.0... that is a 14% increase to today! So my players are 5% better now, right?
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Post by James Kay on Dec 5, 2018 23:25:56 GMT
Our average player rating slowly creeps up every year, and it is likely because the average ppg in 2006 when this NBA Live came out was 97.0... that is a 14% increase to today! Fake News! To contribute to this discussion... Average League Player Rating2011/12: 75.615 2012/13: 76.082 2013/14: 75.821 2014/15: 76.257 2015/16: 75.500 Complete Breakdown of Player Rating Brackets | 2011/12 | 2012/13 | 2013/14 | 2014/15 | 2015/16 | 50 - 60 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 60 - 70 | 62 | 44 | 57 | 45 | 61 | 70 - 80 | 280 | 271 | 262 | 231 | 286 | 80 - 90 | 82 | 83 | 83 | 83 | 81 | 90 + | 14 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 9 | Totals | 439 | 410 | 414 | 370 | 438 |
Chart of ProgressionPercentage Breakdown of Player Rating Brackets(screenshot because I'm not making another immense bbcode table again) I don't know what the numbers for the previous two seasons look like though - they could reflect the inflation you're describing.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 5, 2018 23:42:44 GMT
James Kay - extended for the current season | 2011/12 | 2012/13 | 2013/14 | 2014/15 | 2015/16 | 2018/19 | 50 - 60 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 60 - 70 | 62 | 44 | 57 | 45 | 61 | 55 | 70 - 80 | 280 | 271 | 262 | 231 | 286 | 253 | 80 - 90 | 82 | 83 | 83 | 83 | 81 | 70 | 90 + | 14 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 9 | 15 | Totals | 439 | 410 | 414 | 370 | 438 | 393 |
60-70: 13.9% 70-80: 64.4% 80-90: 17.8% 90+: 3.8% TL;DR: So technically we have more 90+ than ever before, less 80s than ever before, and no surprises elsewhere.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 5, 2018 23:47:00 GMT
2011/12: 75.615 2012/13: 76.082 2013/14: 75.821 2014/15: 76.257 2015/16: 75.500
2018/19: 75.949
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 6, 2018 5:33:09 GMT
Where did the data come from for the player ratings? I swear I did an analysis last year showing the top 100 players were way higher than they used to be, especially the quantity of 80+ players. I’ll try to find it.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 6, 2018 12:59:15 GMT
Where did the data come from for the player ratings? I swear I did an analysis last year showing the top 100 players were way higher than they used to be, especially the quantity of 80+ players. I’ll try to find it. I just used the Rosters
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 6, 2018 13:41:40 GMT
Where did the data come from for the player ratings? I swear I did an analysis last year showing the top 100 players were way higher than they used to be, especially the quantity of 80+ players. I’ll try to find it. I just used the Rosters What about the data for like 2011/12?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 6, 2018 17:32:37 GMT
I wasn't really into NBA Live but I know in the early 2K games IE the good ones. The players were almost seemed to be weighted towards 70-75 as the average player.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 6, 2018 17:33:31 GMT
Would say we have a few 90's who are gonna fall down and a few 80's who are gonna fall as well.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 6, 2018 19:27:51 GMT
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Post by Alex English on Dec 8, 2018 18:19:09 GMT
Yeah I don't think we've had much rating inflation over the course of D5, which Ian Noble's posts show. The only one with a decent bump is the number of 90+ players. Giannis, Kyrie, Lillard and Embiid were all new 90+ guys last season, and we didn't drop anybody out.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 8, 2018 19:03:33 GMT
Kentucky's finest might drop out of the 90 range this season, depending on how things go for them:
John Wall Demarcus Cousins - depending upon injury
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