Hassan Whiteside - NYK

[Ian Noble]

^{New York Knicks - Hassan Whiteside}

After almost 5 weeks of negotiations and committee discussion, Hassan Whiteside has finally decided to sign with the New York Knicks!

Two teams were in the running to begin: Portland and Cleveland, but both teams deviated with their offers and promises and potential situations to the extent that, for the first time, we re-opened offers on a free agent since the committee felt we were in a deadlock! It is also surely what Hassan Whiteside would choose to do in real life, feeling like he could get more elsewhere. Portland eventually offered a $69,924,585 total contract, Cleveland offered $67,666,700.

After re-opening offers the best bids were received from Philadelphia ($90,408,736 total), who actually had submitted an offer earlier during OSFA, but this bid was reduced to $74,000,000. New York offered a comparable $72,213,193 total.

Given Hassan has declining stock, long-term money mattered to his decision! Both Philadelphia and New York offered marginally more long term value financially.

Whiteside fits more with Derozan and Lowry in Portland than any of the other situations, there's no getting beyond that, and Cleveland doesn't have a true starting Center, but Dennis Smith Jr, Aaron Gordon and company in New York aren't so bad either. In terms of teammates though, Portland and Cleveland still had the slight advantage.

Previous GM disloyalty still played a small role with Cleveland's offer, as it did also with Philadelphia since it felt like a 29 year old Whiteside on a very 'green' rebuilding team was just being acquired as trade-bait. To begin negotiations Portland also had to be prompted, twice, to write more than a one sentence offer, so it's not like there was any overture of dedication from Portland either.

The committee also felt this was an opportunity to add to the mix that a D5 factor should count for something with Whiteside's decision - nobody loves Hassan more than Billy King, it's the primary reason why he left the league earlier in the year! Such loyalty and virtual-D5-friendship between a GM and a player should be a factor if OSFA is going to be thorough. In the same way Thibs brings former Bulls to Minnesota in real life - Whiteside returning to the brow of the Titanic with Billy King is meant to be.

Deviations in offers played a role in Whiteside's decision, and actually came to characterise discussions somewhat. Portland and Philadelphia both offered huge amounts to start and then quickly reduced their offers. Cleveland required a lot of prompting to offer the kind of position that would compete with Portland.

Lastly there was simply committee fatigue! The reason I am posting the thread instead of player agent, Brian Scalabrine, is partly because I feel that it is in the interests of the entire league to make a final decision and stop wasting our time and everyone else's time! Other player decisions are resting on this one! It's nearly been 5 weeks and it's time to get on with all our lives! Apologies Brian Scalabrine for taking the reigns from you, but I want to finally wrap this up and I felt like there was no better time than now!

^{New York Knicks}
$16,144,524
$17,355,363
$18,657,015
$20,056,291

Total: $72,213,193

[Allen Iverson]

Trade bait? Lol. Whatever.

Congrats to the Knicks though! Punishment? What punishment? 😉

[Andrei Kirilenko]

I don’t like that Billy was rewarded for rage quitting. Any previous loyalty should have been out the window when he quit and then switched franchises.

[Chris Mullin]

Hmmm.

Since virtual-D5-friendship is apparently a thing in this league, I would just like to mention that this past weekend LeBron James, Steph Curry, and I went on a wine tasting tour of all of California's top vineyards. Also worth mentioning that are wives and our kids all belong to the same play group.

I would appreciate it if this was archived for future OFSA discussions. Thanks!

[Jerry West]

I'm LeBron's long missing father. He texted me and said he wanted me to teach him how to ride a bike and do all the stuff we missed out on when he moves to Indiana after his contract expires.

[Billy King]

Aug 5, 2018 18:52:26 GMT Andrei Kirilenko said:

I don’t like that Billy was rewarded for rage quitting. Any previous loyalty should have been out the window when he quit and then switched franchises.

You guys sure fucking hold it against me I accepted a GM position when it was offered to me and then tried to sign guys.

My bad I quit earlier. Maybe don’t be a giant cunt about it forever.

[Billy King]

Also yay Whiteside! You are my babeh

[Ian Noble]

Aug 5, 2018 22:01:03 GMT Billy King said:

Also yay Whiteside! You are my babeh

What's the hat that Billy King is wearing in your avatar image? Is it a pokemon?

[Tom Izzo]

Aug 5, 2018 21:59:44 GMT Billy King said:

Aug 5, 2018 18:52:26 GMT Andrei Kirilenko said:

I don’t like that Billy was rewarded for rage quitting. Any previous loyalty should have been out the window when he quit and then switched franchises.

You guys sure fucking hold it against me I accepted a GM position when it was offered to me and then tried to sign guys.

My bad I quit earlier. Maybe don’t be a giant cunt about it forever.

The problem is you quit on a league (rage quit, apparently) and weren't fired or forced out. Then given priority when the league has a healthy waiting list. So it sets a precedent. Not only is a GM rewarded for quitting with a new team, but then further rewarded by getting a player in FA. Whine, threaten to quit, and you just may get your way.

[Brandon Roy]

Ouch.. Now nothing left to sign

[Ian Noble]

Aug 5, 2018 23:24:12 GMT Tom Izzo said:

Aug 5, 2018 21:59:44 GMT Billy King said:

You guys sure fucking hold it against me I accepted a GM position when it was offered to me and then tried to sign guys.

My bad I quit earlier. Maybe don’t be a giant cunt about it forever.

The problem is you quit on a league (rage quit, apparently) and weren't fired or forced out. Then given priority when the league has a healthy waiting list. So it sets a precedent. Not only is a GM rewarded for quitting with a new team, but then further rewarded by getting a player in FA. Whine, threaten to quit, and you just may get your way.

That's a massively skewed version of events.

We have no process for when a GM wants to hand over to another GM, I can't remember when it last happened, and I was happy to let it happen, so blame me for that if you want. Also in neither instance was BK 'rewarded', it's just a sequence of events that happened to play out fortuitously for him.

[Amare Stoudemire]

Aug 5, 2018 23:24:12 GMT Tom Izzo said:

Aug 5, 2018 21:59:44 GMT Billy King said:

You guys sure fucking hold it against me I accepted a GM position when it was offered to me and then tried to sign guys.

My bad I quit earlier. Maybe don’t be a giant cunt about it forever.

The problem is you quit on a league (rage quit, apparently) and weren't fired or forced out. Then given priority when the league has a healthy waiting list. So it sets a precedent. Not only is a GM rewarded for quitting with a new team, but then further rewarded by getting a player in FA. Whine, threaten to quit, and you just may get your way.

And yea theirs favortism in this league
You should come to d720 league their are 3 teams open right now and all 3 are projected playoff teams in fact all the guys from the waiting list should come it gets tiring waiting on a team here and watching people just slide in!
dynasty720.proboards.com/

[Jared Montini]

Aug 6, 2018 13:41:49 GMT Amare Stoudemire said:

Aug 5, 2018 23:24:12 GMT Tom Izzo said:

The problem is you quit on a league (rage quit, apparently) and weren't fired or forced out. Then given priority when the league has a healthy waiting list. So it sets a precedent. Not only is a GM rewarded for quitting with a new team, but then further rewarded by getting a player in FA. Whine, threaten to quit, and you just may get your way.

And yea theirs favortism in this league
You should come to d720 league their are 3 teams open right now and all 3 are projected playoff teams in fact all the guys from the waiting list should come it gets tiring waiting on a team here and watching people just slide in!
dynasty720.proboards.com/

there ain't favoritism lol. Don't shit on D5.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Let me be the one to say it even though no one is listening.

This is an unfair signing. I hope the guys up there will realize that.

Thanks. 

[Jared Montini]

Aug 9, 2018 13:01:50 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

Let me be the one to say it even though no one is listening.

This is an unfair signing. I hope the guys up there will realize that.

Thanks. 

it's not an unfair signing, best offer available to make good money and be the main option. Stop complaining about how the offseason went for you. I bet you ridiculed JR vlade and Dan for throwing fits for losing there core guys.

[Kevin Hollis]

I am thinking he is referring to the team restrictions being lifted. There have been multiple instances lately where the line of rational has been very presumptuous and vacillating which leaves others irritated/frustrated. I am all for rules, but maybe more thought needs to go into some of these decisions to deter reneging so quickly.

[Brian Scalabrine]

Aug 9, 2018 13:01:50 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

Let me be the one to say it even though no one is listening.

This is an unfair signing. I hope the guys up there will realize that.

Thanks. 

Why would he sign for less money? You could've offered more than New York but you chose not to. That shows you don't really want Hasaan, at least not as bad as other teams.

If you made a fair offer, it's very likely he would've joined Cleveland

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Aug 9, 2018 21:15:53 GMT Brian Scalabrine said:

Aug 9, 2018 13:01:50 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

Let me be the one to say it even though no one is listening.

This is an unfair signing. I hope the guys up there will realize that.

Thanks. 

Why would he sign for less money? You could've offered more than New York but you chose not to. That shows you don't really want Hasaan, at least not as bad as other teams.

If you made a fair offer, it's very likely he would've joined Cleveland

It is more about Portland. 

A suspension was lifted at the final hour, after the signing was down to the two of us, for the sake of less than $5,000,000. Not even for $7,000,000. 

Knowing that his words is the law in this game. The law was basically broken to make this signing happen. 

And the sad thing was, it seems like everyone was okay with that. 

And regarding our offer, we of course played to what the market dictated. It was supposed to be just a decision between POR and CLE. So, we maintained that offer at that level. Now, if you equate money to the affection of the team to a player, it means you believe Houston IRL do not love Clint Capela that much. 

The Cleveland franchise will continue to play it fair. But, we are also hoping that the LAW will learn his lessons and we, primarily Portland in this one, will be the final victim of this injustice. 

[Billy King]

ok Ian Noble

ive decided hana can have him

plz transfer whiteside to clevelands roster free of charge

Please accept this as my offer of friendship to the league. I'm sorry for quitting, but really didn't expect all the vitriol upon my return. I realize most of it is just coming from people on the waiting list, but it's still pretty frustrating when I don't believe I've done anything wrong. I didn't really ask for any special favors, or even lobby to get this restriction lifted. It just was. I was told I could sign whiteside, so I sent an offer. I was told I could GM a team, so I accepted. I really don't think any of ya'll would've done anything differently.

"oh no ian i prefer to not gm this team, i would like you to enact the hiring process because it is sacrosanct" would've said no one ever.