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Post by Danny Longley on Jul 16, 2018 7:13:11 GMT
#3 you really did not consider it. You basically assumed that I will trade everyone of my players today just so you can conclude that that factor doesn't hold value. If we do not trade anyone, which team is better? The decision to just focus on 1-2 years contending window is subjective, but what is the reason behind? Did not consider what? The best case for the Cavaliers roster would have been: PG: Jrue Holiday SG: Zach Lavine SF: Robert Covington PF: Otto Porter (Currently Unsigned) C: Dewayne Dedmon 6: Kentavious Caldwell Pope Minus Holiday, Porter is practically the only full-time starter for a good team IRL and he's not even a guarantee to return yet. There's not a lot of cap left following the signing so as it stands, this is practically it. If you're going to push potential on me, it's not like the Heat are significantly older. Sure Dragic is 32, but then Adams, Kanter and Rivers are all 24-26, About the same age as your core. Also, I never outright stated 1-2 years. I don't actually know where you pulled that. But Jrue is 28 years old. NBA players generally decline around 30-31. Since Jrue is in his prime, I'm sure it would make sense to most that Jrue plays on the best team he could play with immediately before he starts falling off. #4 I gave up a huge value to get him and yet Jrue did not appreciate it. That is sad. The thing is, Jrue didn't actually directly benefit from it in any way. Players don't necessarily feel obligated to stay because of what was dealt for them. The constant signing-then-trading was a more telling factor for some of us in terms of predicting future loyalty. #5 Thanks. But how about the fact that we have a team that can provide him better space to operate? The Cavs might have a better shooting team than the Heat, but that's not the only factor in basketball and I'm sure you know that. If we keep on putting the "subjective factors...etc." as a defense, then we are simply saying that "you need to accept the opinion of the PA/s because his opinion is the only thing that matter." I'm against condensing subjective factors into numbers because it takes the nuance out of it. If you want to know what I think about a certain thing, then ask. I'll gladly clarify. It's a lot better than me pulling random numbers out of my ass. As for potential for bias, I did acknowledge that in myself. That's one of the reasons I asked for a discussion, so I could try and minimize my personal bias and make sure my thought process wasn't irrational. But of course, if you want to think I just made this all up in my head, have at it. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 17, 2018 1:43:20 GMT
So Jrue goes to the one team out of the three who already have an all star point guard?? Dragic has been labeled as a SG before. Jrue played a lot of the SG role this past season IRL. Rid yourself of these positional ideas and be born again, Mr. Bird. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 17, 2018 1:45:43 GMT
Ah, the empty quit threat. Seems like Danny made the right decision. What if I told you... This is not the only GM to threaten to quit over the Jrue Holiday decision? 30 for 30: D5 Free Agent Hostage Negotiation Tactics |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 17, 2018 2:44:56 GMT
I never threaten to quit if Jrue did not sign with CLE.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 17, 2018 4:13:40 GMT
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 6, 2022 2:07:13 GMT
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 6, 2022 2:17:09 GMT
Andrei Kirilenko you ask for an example of a player leaving his team wherein loyalty was one of the reason. I gave you one. You want another?
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 6, 2022 2:19:05 GMT
Andrei Kirilenko you ask for an example of a player leaving his team wherein loyalty was one of the reason. I gave you one. You want another? Try reading more slowly. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 6, 2022 2:20:12 GMT
Andrei Kirilenko you ask for an example of a player leaving his team wherein loyalty was one of the reason. I gave you one. You want another? Try reading more slowly.
How slow?
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 6, 2022 2:21:16 GMT
has lack of loyalty ever been used in D5 for a player to leave a team
How slow?
You’re reading the wrong thing. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 6, 2022 2:23:41 GMT
has lack of loyalty ever been used in D5 for a player to leave a team
How slow?
You’re reading the wrong thing. Nah. I just gave you what you are looking for. |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 6, 2022 2:25:01 GMT
Josh is in a pretzel!!!
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 6, 2022 2:26:27 GMT
You’re reading the wrong thing. Nah. I just gave you what you are looking for. Or is it that you are afraid to dig deeper? You still haven’t addressed the primary question. |
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