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Post by George Gervin on Jun 17, 2018 16:37:13 GMT
Charlotte offer of:
Horford
FOR
Ibaka
2018 ATL 2nd rounder (38th overall)
ACCEPTED by the Spurs. Strategy wise, there are three important numbers in this deal for me: 32, 64, and 5. Al Horford at 32 with the direction I’m trying to take my team doesn’t fit; he is still a really good player (as his IRL run with Boston showed) and he shouldn’t be wasted on a rebuilding team. He will be a strong 3rd or 4th option now for Charlotte as opposed to an overmatched 1st on my team.
$64 MM is the amount of cap savings I will realize from this trade when you break down the contract difference both length and dollar wise between Horford and Ibaka, which for me is something I can’t refuse as a rebuilding team.
Lastly, 5 is now he number of picks I have in the draft between 1st and 2nd round picks. At 38 I think there will be quality role player talent given this deep pool of players, and as a rebuilding team I need as many darts for the draft dart board as possible (a la Sam Hinkie approach with Philly)
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Post by James Kay on Jun 17, 2018 16:46:30 GMT
Accept.
This is tough, Ibaka was my very first big signing, and one of my favorite players. He was an integral part of the rebuilding process and our championship. He’ll always be a Hornet.
With how well Horford played this year, and even better in this year’s playoffs, I had to take the opportunity to improve my roster and try to be even more competitive next year. His versatility at the 4 or 5 also gives me lineup options. His contract will be a large pill to swallow, but I will be above the cap anyway, and with giving new contracts to Middleton, Noel, Snell, and eventually Paul George, I’ll likely be above the hard cap even without this trade. So I may as well get the most bang for my buck.
Good trading with you SA, good luck and treat Ibaka well.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 17, 2018 16:58:42 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 17, 2018 17:04:04 GMT
Sorry about that! Salaries below: Horford ($34,798,077; $38,625,866; $42,874,711) FOR Ibaka ($25,000,000; $24,000,000) 38th overall pick |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 17, 2018 17:09:42 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 17, 2018 17:24:55 GMT
Ah yes— that thing called math I forgot to check closely on. Do you mind taking down the post and it’s back to the drawing board then to see if there’s a deal that works |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 17, 2018 18:29:31 GMT
Sorry about that! Salaries below: Horford ($34,798,077; $38,625,866; $42,874,711) FOR Ibaka ($25,000,000; $24,000,000) 38th overall pick Actually as George Gervin has pointed out via PM, these are next year's salaries (in play from July 1st onwards), not the current salaries we're using, which makes this deal legal and still within the 125% rule. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 17, 2018 18:30:01 GMT
and I accept
Good deal for both teams.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 17, 2018 18:31:33 GMT
Sorry about that! Salaries below: Horford ($34,798,077; $38,625,866; $42,874,711) FOR Ibaka ($25,000,000; $24,000,000) 38th overall pick Actually as George Gervin has pointed out via PM, these are next year's salaries (in play from July 1st onwards), not the current salaries we're using, which makes this deal legal and still within the 125% rule. Props to fellow GM Larry Bird for tipping me off on the math! |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 17, 2018 20:28:32 GMT
Can charlotte trade current salaries? I thought since they were a playoff team the deadline had passed
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Post by Danny Longley on Jun 17, 2018 20:32:35 GMT
Can charlotte trade current salaries? I thought since they were a playoff team the deadline had passed Salaries included in the trade are starting from next season, so I'm assuming this is meant to be queued till salaries roll over. If that's the case, accept. Perfectly fine trade considering the direction of the teams involved. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 17, 2018 21:15:46 GMT
Can charlotte trade current salaries? I thought since they were a playoff team the deadline had passed As of today's game there aren't any playoff teams, so all can trade. The only players that can't be traded are those with expiring contracts. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 17, 2018 22:44:25 GMT
James just made a big boy move..
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SAS - CHA
Jun 18, 2018 2:01:18 GMT
via mobile
Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jun 18, 2018 2:01:18 GMT
Accept!
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Post by Jared Montini on Jun 18, 2018 2:16:50 GMT
George Gervin making a splash this year since taking over for JR. Great moves man
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SAS - CHA
Jun 18, 2018 13:39:32 GMT
via mobile
Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 18, 2018 13:39:32 GMT
Wow, good deal.
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SAS - CHA
Jun 18, 2018 14:12:55 GMT
via mobile
Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 18, 2018 14:12:55 GMT
Accept from me, can easily justify from both sides. James may be taking the bigger risk with that contract but he understands what is going on there with hard cap and such.
Good deal guys
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Post by Alex English on Jun 18, 2018 22:31:38 GMT
Accept
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jun 18, 2018 23:38:23 GMT
And ratings. And salary going in and out, and total salary after its all said and done. Please comply with the rules, they are there for a reason. |
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 19, 2018 11:55:03 GMT
And ratings. And salary going in and out, and total salary after its all said and done. Please comply with the rules, they are there for a reason. Fully compliant post below: 85 Horford ($34,798,077; $38,625,866; $42,874,711) Total to CHA (2017-18 salary): $31,349,619 Aggregate over contract to CHA: $147,668,273 Percentage with cap rules (2017-18 salary): 121% FOR 81 Ibaka ($25,000,000; $24,000,000) 38th overall pick Total to SAS (2017-2018 salary): $26,000,000 Aggregate over contract to SAS: $75,000,000 Percentage with cap rules: 79% |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 19, 2018 12:02:39 GMT
Trade passed
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