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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Feb 24, 2018 20:56:47 GMT
LA Clippers Trade:
Rajon Rondo (77) - $8,406,000 $9,036,450 $9,714,184 $10,442,748
Greg Monroe (79) - $22,735,325 $25,236,211 $28,012,194
Gorgui Dieng (79) - $1,277,752
Total Outgoing: $32,419,077
Total Incncoming: $32,165,234
San Antoinio Spurs Trade:
Al Horford (85) - $31,349,619 $34,798,077 $38,625,866 $42,874,711
Channing Frye (73) $815,615
Total Outgoing: $32,165,234
Total Incoming: $32,419,077
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Feb 24, 2018 20:58:57 GMT
I accept.
We are having to make deals based around the hard cap and this is a way to get better without picking up much salary.
I hate to lose Dieng but I was not going to be able to resign him in the off-season.
Rondo has been playing well for us but having Tony Parker and Jose Calderon make that easier to swallow.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Feb 24, 2018 22:12:43 GMT
What's JR's plan..?
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Post by JR Wiles on Feb 24, 2018 22:21:58 GMT
As GM of the Spurs We Accept.
I know I'm going to hear mostly bad things about this, but really making this trade helps my team. Monroe is now with a contending team IRL and winning is all Greg has wanted all along. Greg is a few years younger than Al and he has a year shorter contract. Their stats IRL are similar and that's with Greg getting less minutes. I think Greg will be huge come playoff time IRL. With that being said, we trade one for the other while adding another guard who can help the team out. Either by playing beside Thomas or as a backup. Rose has not shown us much with this group and we needed other options. Either way we bring in an extra player for depth. We lose Frye who we signed a few weeks back, and in doing so acquire Dieng who is much younger. He will give us valuable mins off the bench.
We wish Al the best and we have to really be honest here and hope that him and Jordan butt heads and don't play well together in hopes of moving up from the 10th spot to the 8th or better past the Clippers. Either way it's going to be a dog fight, but we are and ALWAYS will be up 4 the challenge.
Go Spurs!!
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Post by Charles Barkley on Feb 25, 2018 8:06:18 GMT
Dude, in what fucking world does this make sense?
Monroe is garbage. absolutely trash. Rondo the same, on his way out.
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 25, 2018 9:25:36 GMT
This trade makes such little sense for the Spurs I think even a trade committee softy like myself might reject. Absolutely terrible trade.
Spurs backcourt would be IT - DRose - Rondo. Not exactly compatible playing styles.
Horford is literally having an All Star season, he's at the top of his career. It will take a team like Boston IRL to make Monroe look good. Dieng will just disappear in the off season. JR one of the positives you list about Monroe is that his contract lasts for fewer years, inferring that his value exists in you being able to get rid of him, when you're giving Al Horford in return?!
Reject
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 25, 2018 10:47:31 GMT
Rondo and Isaiah Thomas will be throwing punches in the locker room. 😂
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Feb 25, 2018 21:33:50 GMT
I reject. Rondo and Greg Monroe 3 -4 years ago, I would say accept but this doesn't make sense right now. Sorry JR.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 25, 2018 23:19:14 GMT
Everyone in this deal is paid too much (except Dieng). Horford is by far the best player, even though I'm not even a huge fan of his at this point (compared to other GMs here), especially with that contract. Dieng could help save the deal if it wasn't so likely that he'd just leave.
It's a no from me.
Reject
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Feb 25, 2018 23:28:47 GMT
I'll let JR defend his side of the deal but since Dieng would have his Bird Rights traded with him, I would think JR could certainly resign him in the off-season.
Depending on whether you assume Dieng walks or stays makes a huge difference imo.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 25, 2018 23:35:32 GMT
To be fair, Dieng could re-sign, yes. However, when a starting-caliber C is signed for 24+, 25+, and 26+ million the next 3 years after this year, and then Monroe is traded for in this deal, who's a fringe-y starting level PF or C, signed for 25+ and 28+ million the next 2 years after this year, I'd say Dieng would at least look pretty hard at finding another situation where he could start w/o worrying about Monroe (who is still only 27 years old, fwiw).
Also, this trade would give the spurs 3 PGs, one SF/PF, one PF/C, and a C locked into contracts for at least 2 years. Arguably the best PG has the shortest contract and could leave after next year. I think there's another reason Dieng looks to leave.
And, the Spurs have no cap space to sign players to anything aside from the minimum or MLE, so their team is basically locked for the next 4 years. If they sign Dieng to the kind of contract he can probably get, they'll be encroaching on hard-cap area for the next 2 years after this one until Monroe comes off the books. It just doesn't make sense IMHO.
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Post by JR Wiles on Feb 25, 2018 23:44:33 GMT
Right now I'm at work and when I get the chance I'll message my thoughts, etc.
Rondo is done guys say
..look at his last game.
Monroe- 6pts 5 rebs in 10 mins last game. Just imagine if he gets more mins. No reason he's not worth getting. The main thing is DEPTH. Dieng is a nice young Big man and him and Olynk could be out future with Thomas and Barnes. Rose retires and his numbers comne off our books. I'll say more later, but you guys gotta start looking at fairness and not what you would do
It's not like I'm not active or that I have even left hitting rock bottom. Anyways...
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 26, 2018 19:00:52 GMT
Trade rejected!
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