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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Nov 24, 2017 20:36:30 GMT
Thabo Sefalosha will sign with the Hornets to the following deal:
Year 1: $815,615
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Post by Danny Longley on Nov 25, 2017 15:28:43 GMT
Bryan Colangelo, this is a minimum on a 70+. No longer legal since we're following RSFA rules now.
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 25, 2017 15:35:23 GMT
Bryan Colangelo, this is a minimum on a 70+. No longer legal since we're following RSFA rules now. asked me about this before this signing. I think this has surfaced in the past, but I couldn't find any rules threads that said the league minimum could not be given to a 70+ player if the player agent thought it was realistic. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Nov 25, 2017 16:03:03 GMT
I tried to do this last year for Corey brewer or someone like that and I was told essentially that I couldn't. Thought it was in place to keep teams over the cap from getting 70+ players for nothing. I agree that you should be able to sign them, but I am just reiterating how I was informed.
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Post by Danny Longley on Nov 25, 2017 17:39:12 GMT
Bryan Colangelo, this is a minimum on a 70+. No longer legal since we're following RSFA rules now. asked me about this before this signing. I think this has surfaced in the past, but I couldn't find any rules threads that said the league minimum could not be given to a 70+ player if the player agent thought it was realistic. We don't have anything regarding realism and I wouldn't be against a rule change, but I'm just surprised you're allowing this considering you told me to disallow a similar offer when I asked. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 25, 2017 18:32:33 GMT
Bryan Colangelo, this is a minimum on a 70+. No longer legal since we're following RSFA rules now. asked me about this before this signing. I think this has surfaced in the past, but I couldn't find any rules threads that said the league minimum could not be given to a 70+ player if the player agent thought it was realistic. I think it is pretty clear in the rules, I don't even know why James offered this as he discussed in chat about how screwed his rule makes his team. Seems like he knew it was not a valid offer. James also offered this to me as Thabo's agent in OSFA but we declined as he was paid nearly 10x as much in real life. It's a bit weird that Thabo switches agents in RSFA, but I do suppose it is a different market now so perhaps this is fair. Either way, seems like it does not matter as this offer is illegal. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Nov 25, 2017 18:42:50 GMT
Makes sense now., I was told since free agency ended I couldn't offer a minimum which is in the rules.
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 25, 2017 19:55:24 GMT
Andrei Kirilenko is right, I didn't see that rule when I was searching. Bryan Colangelo/ James Kay, we're going to have to cancel this after all. League minimum contracts can only be offered to players rated below 70 except during Off Season Free Agency.
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Post by James Kay on Nov 25, 2017 20:57:51 GMT
I’m not home until tomorrow, but I did some research on previous signings and 70+ RFAs have consistently been allowed to sign for the minimum. I’ll post links when I get home.
In the meantime, this rule shouldn’t exist in the first place. There’s absolutely no basis for this rule in real life.
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Post by James Kay on Nov 27, 2017 1:31:55 GMT
Ian Noble Previous signings of players over 70 to the minimum. This list is obviously not all of them, and there are probably even others that are not verifiable. I just looked at their ratings on the roster page and Free agent list page, and verified that they signed for the minimum of that year. 2014: Free Agent ListRostersMarvin Williams2015: Free Agents ListRostersIan MahinmiHedo TurkMbah a Moute2016: Free Agents ListRostersForced Signing (Udonis Haslem)lolJames JonesJimmer pt. 2?(pretty sure Jimmer signed for the min in 2014 as well? But I lost that link). Just not a rule that's ever been enforced consistently, and shouldn't exist in the first place. The free agency market should be enough to regulate what value of contracts 70-80 rated players are signed to. Players hovering around that 70-73 rating would absolutely sign to teams for the minimum in real life and it is an unnecessary handicap to not allow teams to fill out their bench.
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 27, 2017 20:27:08 GMT
James KayI think you're right. The rule was probably put in place before Player Agents took over 70+ players. I'll allow this signing to go through.
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