Pacers - Pelicans

[Brian Scalabrine]

Indiana trades: 
75 Tiago Splitter $6,072,282
71 Nik Stauskas $2,668,515 $3,690,556
Nick Young $6,000,000 (Contract)
Carlos Boozer $9,856,800 (Contract)
Anderson Varejao $8,000,000 (Contract)
IND 2019 1st Round Pick

Total: $32,597,597 *1.25 = 40,746,996.2


New Orleans trades:
82 Marcin Gortat $25,217,872
83 George Hill $7,024,224
78 Tristan Thompson $7,000,000 $7,500,000
76 Tony Snell $1,455,989 (Bird Rights)

Total: $40,698,085


Trade will need to be queued until Dec 15th in game.


I accept. This is a brutal trade to make as it essentially admits that my plan on getting to contention and the playoffs this year is a failure. I firmly believe with a fully healthy squad my team could've made the playoffs but the Gordon Hayward injury has thrown a wrench into my plans. Without our best player, the best long term path our team can take it to tank, acquire more picks and hopefully get enough ammo to reload next season when Gordon is back. 

Right now, sans Gordon, our team has no direction or path to get better. Although this is a major step back in the present, this should lead to greater sustained success in the future.  

[Larry Bird]

I really dont want to trade the 1st in this deal, but I will accept this trade.
However, I feel the players I get in return should help replace that pick.
I think Tony Snell can be a good player. I like that I retain his bird rights.
Tristan Thompson still has the ability to improve. Him and Khloe have really been hitting the gym hard, I think this will help him improve his game. Hill and Gortat are good solid veteran players. Somebody might need a good point guard or center in their chase for the championship.

[Chauncey Billups]

Oct 31, 2017 16:35:01 GMT Larry Bird said:

Him and Khloe have really been hitting the gym hard, I think this will help him improve his game. 

How and why do you know this?

[Andrei Kirilenko]

I guess I'll make a few observations since that's what we do in this league...

1. This is (at least?) the 2nd straight year Scal has signed players in OSFA and then immediately traded them. Not that I care, but you guys pointed it out when I traded Jackson so just want to make sure everyone realizes it.

2. What exactly is the plan for the Pacers here? No offense Larry but you are bordering JR territory, going all-in every year with mediocre talent and no future plan.

That being said, I guess it's fair, Snell could theoretically be worth a pick but Larry is gonna have to pay him next summer which kinda sucks.

[Ian Noble]

I would accept this trade BUT...

You can't trade players signed during OSFA until December 15th (in-game time). Sorry guys.

edit: I'm referring to Gortat

[Brian Scalabrine]

Oct 31, 2017 18:23:26 GMT Ian Noble said:

I would accept this trade BUT...

You can't trade players signed during OSFA until December 15th (in-game time). Sorry guys.

edit: I'm referring to Gortat

I remember last year Josh traded reggie Jackson before the deadline as well, it was just queued until then. Can't we do that here?

[Andrei Kirilenko]

Oct 31, 2017 19:00:53 GMT Brian Scalabrine said:

Oct 31, 2017 18:23:26 GMT Ian Noble said:

I would accept this trade BUT...

You can't trade players signed during OSFA until December 15th (in-game time). Sorry guys.

edit: I'm referring to Gortat

I remember last year Josh traded reggie Jackson before the deadline as well, it was just queued until then. Can't we do that here?

It was 1 day before the deadline

[Brian Scalabrine]

Oct 31, 2017 19:14:34 GMT Andrei Kirilenko said:

Oct 31, 2017 19:00:53 GMT Brian Scalabrine said:

I remember last year Josh traded reggie Jackson before the deadline as well, it was just queued until then. Can't we do that here?

It was 1 day before the deadline

If it really matters, we can hold off until 1 day before the deadline and then resubmit this but thats seems sort of pedantic. I don't see why it can't be queued until in game Dec 15th, its not like any of the players in this deal are unproven and will see their values drastically change. 

[Ian Noble]

I think I'd just prefer not to have trades queued for that long. December 15th in-game is roughly the start of February in real life - that's three months away

[Brian Scalabrine]

Oct 31, 2017 19:34:04 GMT Ian Noble said:

I think I'd just prefer not to have trades queued for that long. December 15th in-game is roughly the start of February in real life - that's three months away

Darn. Ok I'll see if we can rework this

[Larry Bird]

Is it just Gortat who is the holdup?

[Ian Noble]

Oct 31, 2017 20:06:37 GMT Larry Bird said:

Is it just Gortat who is the holdup?

Gortat was the only one I noticed, I didn't check further.

Basically it's any player who is greyed out on last off-seasons list

[Deleted]

Oct 31, 2017 18:23:26 GMT Ian Noble said:

I would accept this trade BUT... BK replaced me on the TC effective today.

Thanks, Ian.

I accept. This trade is hilarious to me.

[Andrei Kirilenko]

Oct 31, 2017 20:20:22 GMT @riogho said:

Oct 31, 2017 18:23:26 GMT Ian Noble said:

I would accept this trade BUT... BK replaced me on the TC effective today.

Thanks, Ian.

I accept. This trade is hilarious to me.

omg i died at this

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

We have reached the point that it is actually acceptable already that we treat players like chips. We should at least see them as human being.. with pride, wisdom and opinion.

[Kevin Hollis]

Oct 31, 2017 17:07:52 GMT Chauncey Billups said:

Oct 31, 2017 16:35:01 GMT Larry Bird said:

Him and Khloe have really been hitting the gym hard, I think this will help him improve his game. 

How and why do you know this?

You beat me to this. This literally might have been the best comment ever for validating a trade.

[Kevin Hollis]

Oct 31, 2017 17:24:50 GMT Andrei Kirilenko said:

I guess I'll make a few observations since that's what we do in this league...

1. This is (at least?) the 2nd straight year Scal has signed players in OSFA and then immediately traded them. Not that I care, but you guys pointed it out when I traded Jackson so just want to make sure everyone realizes it.

2. What exactly is the plan for the Pacers here? No offense Larry but you are bordering JR territory, going all-in every year with mediocre talent and no future plan.

That being said, I guess it's fair, Snell could theoretically be worth a pick but Larry is gonna have to pay him next summer which kinda sucks.

"Thanks for signing Marcin, you are now traded even though we haven't even played a game yet."

[Brian Scalabrine]

Oct 31, 2017 23:53:00 GMT Kevin Hollis said:

Oct 31, 2017 17:24:50 GMT Andrei Kirilenko said:

I guess I'll make a few observations since that's what we do in this league...

1. This is (at least?) the 2nd straight year Scal has signed players in OSFA and then immediately traded them. Not that I care, but you guys pointed it out when I traded Jackson so just want to make sure everyone realizes it.

2. What exactly is the plan for the Pacers here? No offense Larry but you are bordering JR territory, going all-in every year with mediocre talent and no future plan.

That being said, I guess it's fair, Snell could theoretically be worth a pick but Larry is gonna have to pay him next summer which kinda sucks.

"Thanks for signing Marcin, you are now traded even though we haven't even played a game yet."

Cmon how was I supposed to know that Hayward would get injured in the first game? I'm trading gortat to a team that he has a better chance to win with, he is only on a one year deal anyway so he's not stuck anywhere.

[Jeremiah Hill]

Oct 31, 2017 17:24:50 GMT Andrei Kirilenko said:

I guess I'll make a few observations since that's what we do in this league...

1. This is (at least?) the 2nd straight year Scal has signed players in OSFA and then immediately traded them. Not that I care, but you guys pointed it out when I traded Jackson so just want to make sure everyone realizes it.

2. What exactly is the plan for the Pacers here? No offense Larry but you are bordering JR territory, going all-in every year with mediocre talent and no future plan.

That being said, I guess it's fair, Snell could theoretically be worth a pick but Larry is gonna have to pay him next summer which kinda sucks.

1. To be fair, his best player is out for the season and likely into next season as well so it's a quite a bit different from your circumstances. If I recall, Reggie Jackson was being billed as sort of a mid-tier high upside PG of the future, didn't pan out as he stayed kind of meh but that was the valuation at the time at least. He was also a guy who was just signed to a multi year contract that really kind of cements that idea. Gortat is a large deal place holder on a good to great center for a year as Brian moves to take another stab in Free Agency next season. 

2. I completely agree, this trade makes absolutely 0 sense for Indiana. There are 7 teams in the East that are better than Indiana, 8 teams make the playoffs and the rest of the East got better in my opinion so its no longer a guarantee that the Pacers limp into the 6-8 seed like there usually is.

Brian should be willing to do this trade even without the pick just to lose a few more games this season and make his own pick worse in my opinion. I think that's clear given that he's completely willing to queue up the trade 3 months in advance that he doesn't see any value in ANY of the players he's getting. 

But to me this Pacers team doesn't even really get much better in this trade which means he's essentially giving up another 1st rounder in order to make another lateral move. Their entire team is 1 good Small Forward who can play Power Forward and 2 decent Small Forwards. The rest of them are either past their prime guys like Berea/Splitter and prospects. Harkless who's still young but has 5 years experience hasn't really shown much and MCW who's in the G League now. So I just do not see how this move makes any sense at all for Indiana.