Orlando- Indiana

[Larry Bird]

Orlando Trades:
93 Amar'e Stoudemire $18,217,705 - $19,948,799 - $21,679,893 - $23,410,988
71 Tyler Honeycutt $775,000 - $809,875 - $884,293
70 Jordan Williams $473,604 - $762,195 - $884,293

Incoming Salary: $16,527,151
Outgoing Salary: $19,466,309
New Team Salary: $68,588,339

Indiana Trades:
79 Tyrus Thomas $7,305,785 - $8,000,000 - $8,694,215 - $9,388,429
79 Paul George $2,406,240 - $2,574,120 - $3,282,003(TO) - $4,470,088
78 Brandon Bass $4,250,000 -$4,250,000(PO)
75 Omri Casspi $1,341,960 - $2,277,306 - $3,313,480
70 Aleksandar Pavlovic $1,223,166 (Salary Only)
2nd '13 (IND)
2nd '14 (LAC)

Incoming Salary: $19,466,309
Outgoing Salary: $16,527,151
New Team Salary: $62,549,022

I accept.
I wanted to try to hang on to George, Bass, and Casspi in the hopes that they would see an increase next season. George is going to be good playing along side Granger. Bass will see a lot of time in Boston next season. Casspi will play beside Irving, Waiters, and Thompson in Cleveland and should see a lot more time than he saw with Sacramento. I think that will be good for each of them. Amare is an All-Star+ though. This is something I just could not pass up.

[Blake Bowman]

I accept.

I get George and Thomas who are both starting caliber, and I think PG can develop into a franchise player for the Magic, Thomas can start at our PF and the other two are very good Role Players/ Sixth Men. I also get those seconds and lose some cap in the future sooner.

[Glenn Robinson]

While I think Stoudamire could fetch more back than what he's getting in this deal, this instantly makes Indiana a power house and a title contender for the next couple of seasons.

[Deleted]

And my deal for him was bad?

[Andrei Kirilenko]

I have to reject. Tyrus Thomas is a horrible contract. Paul George has value, but isn't worth Amare. Everyone else is kinda a scrub.

[Walt Frazier]

Yea, here's a reminder of what was rejected before

Kings Get:
PF/C Amar'e Stoudemire 93 $18,217,705 $19,948,799 $21,679,893 $23,410,988
SF Hedo Turkoglu 77 $11,015,850 $11,815,850 $12,000,000Total: $29,233,555

Magic Get:
PF/SF Derrick Williams 81 $4,602,720 $4,809,840 $5,016,960 $6,331,404 $8,262,482
C/PF Channing Frye 78 $5,600,000 $6,000,000 $6,400,000 $6,800,000
SF John Salmons 75 $8,500,000 $8,083,000 $7,583,000 $7,000,000
C Nazar Mohammed 70 $3,750,000/1
C Jamaal Magloire $1,325,181/1
2013 1st (Hornets)

Total: $23,750,091

So, in this deal, Kings took on a HORRIBLE contract, though he did send back a bad one as well. However, he sent a solid 1st rounder out, plus a solid player (Frye) signed to a reasonable contract. PLUS, last year's #2 pick, still on his rookie contract.

Tyrus is just as bad as Salmons, maybe worse IMO...I think Salmons produces more for his team than Tyrus, but anyway, call that a wash.

Paul George looks interesting and may be a little more proven than Derrick Williams, but I have a hard time giving George much more value than Williams, so that's about a wash.

Bass vs Frye is about a wash.

The rest is meh...vs Kings sending a 1st.

PLUS, Kings took on a huge contract.

Really, this is worse than that deal we rejected already involving the Kings, so..

REJECT from me.

[Aubrey Graham]

I accept

although ORL is taking back Tyrus Thomas, he gets one of the best young wings in the league in Paul George. Cassipi & Bass are also nice pieces to have as well. Amare is being overvalued in this deal by some because of his 93 rating when at best he's an 87.

[Ian Noble]

I reject.

Amare, the one reason why your team is experiencing any success at the moment, traded for bad contracts, low draft picks and Paul George.

[Dominique Wilkins]

Reject also, as others have stated...Thomas...YIKES!!

[Walt Frazier]

Sept 4, 2012 16:28:30 GMT Aubrey Graham said:

I accept

although ORL is taking back Tyrus Thomas, he gets one of the best young wings in the league in Paul George. Cassipi & Bass are also nice pieces to have as well. Amare is being overvalued in this deal by some because of his 93 rating when at best he's an 87.

The simple fact is, the committee already rejected a BETTER offer than this...dunno how it could be possible for this one to go through. Precedent and value have been set. Nothing has changed since the time of that other offer either, so just wouldn't make any sense.

[Deleted]

I knew when I offered that deal that either way I would win. Precedent is a POWERFUL thing!