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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 30, 2014 23:24:44 GMT
Or maybe instead of 6 weeks, we make it 4 weeks?
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 31, 2014 0:17:42 GMT
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Post by Charles Barkley on Dec 31, 2014 2:06:39 GMT
Our system isn't working. And it isn't because it is a bad system. It is because the NBA lists players as "out indefinitely" and we, nor anyone but them, have no idea when they will be back.
Why not make it retro-active. Like, say a player misses 6 weeks when he is listed as "out indefinitely", then we go in, and he will miss 6 weeks in our sim. It isn't ideal, but it takes away the out indefinitely bull shit. Or we could just make a player go on IR when he is listed as out indefinitely.
I just don't want the in-game injuries to happen, it seems like its a pain for Ian, and because I know what the injury rating of some guys are, and they aren't too high. Mainly because we have been focused on distributing the points into the categories that actually matter.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 31, 2014 9:32:26 GMT
Al Jef is out for four weeks.. unfortunately, six weeks is the minimum Doug Mcdermott should be included, He is out the entire December, thats 4 weeks, and check his profile in cbs, he is not expected to return two weeks from now so that should be a total of six weeks already. Terrence Jones last played on Nov. 3, he should be included too.
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 31, 2014 10:08:27 GMT
Added Alec Burks, thanks Scal!
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 31, 2014 16:12:10 GMT
It seems like the criteria we are using isn't '6+ weeks' but rather 'Out for Season'
That's fine, but we need to stop pretending like we are going to add all these guys to the list who are injured for 6+ weeks. Let's just change the policy and then no one will be confused as to why we aren't following the policy?
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 11, 2015 19:59:50 GMT
Al Jef is out for four weeks.. unfortunately, six weeks is the minimum Doug Mcdermott should be included, He is out the entire December, thats 4 weeks, and check his profile in cbs, he is not expected to return two weeks from now so that should be a total of six weeks already. Terrence Jones last played on Nov. 3, he should be included too. It says a minimum of 4 weeks. I think it should be talked about at least if he should be put on the list or not. I, for one, think he should be.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 11, 2015 20:01:51 GMT
Why isn't Robin Lopez on this? His injury status says he won't be back for 6-7 weeks.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 11, 2015 20:32:34 GMT
Al Jef is out for four weeks.. unfortunately, six weeks is the minimum Doug Mcdermott should be included, He is out the entire December, thats 4 weeks, and check his profile in cbs, he is not expected to return two weeks from now so that should be a total of six weeks already. Terrence Jones last played on Nov. 3, he should be included too. I think Terrence Jones is on assignment in the D-League rather than being hurt.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 11, 2015 21:23:23 GMT
No Terrance Jones is hurt
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 11, 2015 21:42:48 GMT
Why isn't Robin Lopez on this? His injury status says he won't be back for 6-7 weeks. Hmm, CBS website says only out "until mid-January", which is like a couple of days.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 12, 2015 6:46:59 GMT
I guess the thing is that his initial status was for 6-7 weeks, but now that time has passed.
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Post by Allen Iverson on Jan 19, 2015 10:49:46 GMT
Rookie Aaron Gordon is back after a 31-game absence with a fractured left foot.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 19, 2015 11:04:39 GMT
Thanks AI!
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Jan 21, 2015 6:47:09 GMT
Kendall Marshall Out for the season.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 21, 2015 8:13:00 GMT
Kendall Marshall Out for the season. Bucks shoulda never cut Wolters!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 14:03:36 GMT
its not looking like the pelicans are keeping him!
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 22, 2015 1:05:29 GMT
LMA out indefinitely
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Post by Alex English on Jan 22, 2015 1:11:03 GMT
Tony Wroten and Javale Mcgee are also out indefinitely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 1:31:57 GMT
You have to be careful with indefinitely though. Jrue holiday was out indefinitely, but now its 3-4 weeks. We should probably not count Indefinitely's as >6 weeks.
Especially with aldrige. Isn't there a possibility it's only a ligament strain? If its a tear, he's going to be out for months, but if its just a sprain he'll be back in a few weeks, but right now it is "indefinitely".
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Post by Alex English on Jan 22, 2015 1:44:09 GMT
You have to be careful with indefinitely though. Jrue holiday was out indefinitely, but now its 3-4 weeks. We should probably not count Indefinitely's as >6 weeks. Especially with aldrige. Isn't there a possibility it's only a ligament strain? If its a tear, he's going to be out for months, but if its just a sprain he'll be back in a few weeks, but right now it is "indefinitely". A lot of issues have been brought up with the way we currently do injuries, read through this thread if you want. Using 'out indefinitely' is pretty much the only objective way to track this. We're not doctors and NBA teams don't publicly release much if any information about their injured players.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 1:49:44 GMT
You have to be careful with indefinitely though. Jrue holiday was out indefinitely, but now its 3-4 weeks. We should probably not count Indefinitely's as >6 weeks. Especially with aldrige. Isn't there a possibility it's only a ligament strain? If its a tear, he's going to be out for months, but if its just a sprain he'll be back in a few weeks, but right now it is "indefinitely". A lot of issues have been brought up with the way we currently do injuries, read through this thread if you want. Using 'out indefinitely' is pretty much the only objective way to track this. We're not doctors and NBA teams don't publicly release much if any information about their injured players. I could maybe offer an idea of a solution, just make the player miss the games in the SIM that they would miss IRL. For example, Lamarcus aldridge is out starting today... So when January 20th comes around in our sim make lamarcus aldridge out then... and when he comes back in real life... bring him back on that simmed date. Seems super simple to me. Of course, it would be a huge pain for Ian to do this for short injuries, but for 4-6 week injuries, it'd be pretty easy to implement.
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Post by Alex English on Jan 22, 2015 2:06:48 GMT
I could maybe offer an idea of a solution, just make the player miss the games in the SIM that they would miss IRL. For example, Lamarcus aldridge is out starting today... So when January 20th comes around in our sim make lamarcus aldridge out then... and when he comes back in real life... bring him back on that simmed date. Seems super simple to me. Of course, it would be a huge pain for Ian to do this for short injuries, but for 4-6 week injuries, it'd be pretty easy to implement. You've already mentioned why something like this will never happen. Ian would have to be tracking every injury on a daily basis. It's not manageable at all.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 22, 2015 3:06:01 GMT
We are 7 weeks (49 days) apart from real life so I believe this players should be injured in d5.
Doug Mcdermott - last game is Nov. 30 (62 days out) Iman Shumpert - last game is Dec. 12 (50 days out) Terrence Jones - last is Nov. 3 (89 days out) Ricky Rubio - last is Nov. 7 (85 days out)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 3:14:47 GMT
i mean he could just do injuries that lasted 4+ weeks in real life. thatd be a pretty short list and youd know who was going to miss and when weeks in advance...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 3:21:59 GMT
if we kept the list here of who was injured for 4+ weeks and when, ian checking the list to see if anyones month long time out started each day would be the exact same as him checking this thread each day. and it would be realistic and get rid of the indefinitely problem. were 7 weeks behind, he'll know of the players sabbaticals by heart a week before they happen by just glancing at the list each time we add a new name.
its as easy as the current system, with infinitely more realism. by the time january 20th rolls around in-sim, hell already know aldridge sits out then by just seeing this thread from time to time
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 23, 2015 6:08:01 GMT
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Post by Larry Bird on Jan 23, 2015 12:17:04 GMT
Well, Aldridge didn't get hurt until Jan 22. Does that mean he plays until Jan 22, then sits out 6-8 weeks. It wouldn't matter if he was sitting out now for 6-8 or then for 6-8. It's still 6-8 weeks.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 23, 2015 13:59:41 GMT
Keep an eye out for the Kobe injury. I would almost have to think it's going to be over 4 weeks
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 23, 2015 21:13:38 GMT
Tony Wroten and Javale Mcgee are also out indefinitely. McGee's expected back soon. Wroten added to the list.
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