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Post by Ian Noble on May 15, 2012 13:50:47 GMT
Celtics receive: 74 - Enes Kanter - $4,133,280 - $4,319,280 - [red]$4,505,280 - $5,694,674[/red] - $7,471,412 75 - Alec Burks - $2,020,200 - $2,111,160 - [red]$2,202,000 - $3,034,356[/red] - $4,175,274
(14 players after trade)
Total - $6,153,480
Jazz receive 78 - Brandon Bass - $4,250,000 - [teal]$4,250,000[/teal] 70 - Aleksandar Pavlovic - $1,223,166 66 - Ryan Hollins - $280,192
(15 players after trade)
Total - $5,753,358
I'm doing this trade for multiple reasons. I like it because Kanter can play starting center and Garnett can move back to his more natural position at Power Forward. Also Kanter's long term contract gives me some long term stability with Garnett and Allen expiring this year causing some uncertainty.
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Lucas Lutkus
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Post by Lucas Lutkus on May 15, 2012 16:44:06 GMT
i'd like to know why Utah accepted this trade
even with a disappointing season, Kanter is still a great prospect and Burks isn't bad. Brandon Bass and Pavlovic aren't enough for them both in my oppinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 16:52:32 GMT
I think it is fair...
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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 15, 2012 17:19:46 GMT
After Bass' great season IRL I'm reluctant to accept this considering he has an opt out clause and will most likely use it to fetch more $ in the FA market. UTA also has Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap ahead of him on the depth charts so it'd be unlikely that he'd return. Basically UTA would be giving up the 2 best player prospects in this deal in return for 1 year of Bass. I'd like to hear from UTA before I make a decision.
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Isiah Thomas
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Post by Isiah Thomas on May 15, 2012 17:22:23 GMT
I would also like to hear Utah's point of view before I make my decision
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Post by Danny Longley on May 15, 2012 17:26:11 GMT
My opinion, Brandon Bass doesn't seem to be a contract-year player. He turned his opportunity in Dallas to a bigger contract, but his numbers didn't sink the following year for lack of effort. That being said, even though I doubt his numbers will sink the next year, I believe this is about it for him. And like Chicago said, to give up two of your best prospects for a career role-player?
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Juan Pablo
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Post by Juan Pablo on May 15, 2012 18:15:54 GMT
JAZZ's is very optimistic that this trade will improve its bench depth and as well as it's defense on the back court, knowing that KANTER and BURKS aint contributing much this season despite being a good prospect for the team... JAZZ just can't wait for their prime... BASS , PAVLOVIC and HOLLINS were already been tested... It's a must win this season hopefully, after this trade...!
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Lucas Lutkus
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Post by Lucas Lutkus on May 15, 2012 18:25:33 GMT
JAZZ's is very optimistic that this trade will improve its bench depth and as well as it's defense on the back court, knowing that KANTER and BURKS aint contributing much this season despite being a good prospect for the team... JAZZ just can't wait for their prime... BASS , PAVLOVIC and HOLLINS were already been tested... It's a must win this season hopefully, after this trade...! we're in the 2nd game of the season, we've 80 games left, how can you say that they aren't contributing? the season has just started. I don't want to be a trouble maker or anything, if i was from the trade comittee i would have accepted the trade because it's not anything crazy, it's just a trade where Boston gets the best here.
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Juan Pablo
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Post by Juan Pablo on May 15, 2012 18:46:24 GMT
Last game game stat:
Utah Player POS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS E. Kanter 10 1-1 0-0 0-0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 2 A. Burks 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
the team can't go on 80 games with this. BASS can definitely contribute and with PAVLOVIC 3's and defensive skills JAZZ well surely become more competitive on the upcoming games and more likely in the playoffs.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 15, 2012 19:13:04 GMT
I can see what you guys are saying but I'm surprised that a player like Enes Kanter has generated this much scrutiny really, it's not like this is going to affect Utah hugely and it's a nice fit for my team.
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Post by Juan Pablo on May 15, 2012 19:43:16 GMT
basically, this are the team starters:
84 Al Jefferson 84 Paul Millsap 80 Gordon Hayward 82 Ben Gordon 82 Rodney Stuckey
I just can't squeeze KANTER and BURKS in and assume that they will eventually climb their way up in the roster. Indeed, both of them are the team's best prospect. But the team believes we already had the best starting five. I need a proven role player/s that will embrace its role and compliment the talent of my starters.
'trading and draft is more of an art than science'
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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 15, 2012 21:01:25 GMT
I think Kanter is going to turn out to be a very good player in a few years and I hate to see Utah throw him away like this. Alas, both sides have presented their case and Utah wants to win now so I'll accept
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Isiah Thomas
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Post by Isiah Thomas on May 16, 2012 0:20:48 GMT
Yeah considering both sides story, i'll accept
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Post by Ian Noble on May 16, 2012 1:11:44 GMT
Hooray my first trade!
Trade accepted.
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