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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 13, 2017 23:05:41 GMT
Hey everybody. Vlade Divac and I were talking earlier and the idea of relocating our teams was brought up. I already talked to Ian Noble and was told that it wouldn't happen, but I was just curious how many of you would be extremely opposed to us swapping teams but keeping our current rosters? I have a deep love for my Pistons, as I am from the area, and I would be extremely excited and grateful if I had the opportunity to relocate my team over there. And after speaking to Vlade, it's clear to me that he has an emotional attachment to the Sacramento Kings here in D5. The thing is, we don't just want to swap teams. We would like to keep our rosters and swap locations. I understand that there are many factors that would play into this this decision like divisional and conference matters among others, but how many of you would oppose the idea, and why? I'm totally open to what you all have to hear, and I'm not looking for a huge debate or argument and I'm not looking to fight back, just looking to see if it would be a big deal to you guys or not.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 13, 2017 23:49:31 GMT
First of all, I don't think this is even up for debate. Ian Noble takes input from us on many things, but the basic league's structure, and things like relocation, isn't one of them. He takes a strong view on maintaining realism when it comes to stuff like this. If it were up for debate, I think I'd be against it. If this door is opened, you can't really close it. The first thing I'd do if it were allowed is find an Eastern Conference GM who would swap with me. Playing in the Western Conference sucks. Playing in the Northwest Division sucks even worse. Life would be sweet in the East. If my team had a really great season, I think I could approach 70 wins. Having everyone constantly shifting to try and get the best schedule possible would get messy. Also, wasn't Vlade Divac given the opportunity to take the Kings when John Lodge was fired? Why didn't he do it?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 13, 2017 23:54:14 GMT
First of all, I don't think this is even up for debate. Ian Noble takes input from us on many things, but the basic league's structure, and things like relocation, isn't one of them. He takes a strong view on maintaining realism when it comes to stuff like this. If it were up for debate, I think I'd be against it. If this door is opened, you can't really close it. The first thing I'd do if it were allowed is find an Eastern Conference GM who would swap with me. Playing in the Western Conference sucks. Playing in the Northwest Division sucks even worse. Life would be sweet in the East. If my team had a really great season, I think I could approach 70 wins. Having everyone constantly shifting to try and get the best schedule possible would get messy. Also, wasn't Vlade Divac given the opportunity to take the Kings when John Lodge was fired? Why didn't he do it? This isn't about me trying to play in the East, Alex. Circumstances are slightly different. I'm not trying to bail on the West for a better chance to win.. It's not about everyone trying to constantly shift trying to get a better schedule? I didn't mention that once and I would never want that either. It's more about having a sentimental attachment to a team than trying to put myself in a better situation to win. That's ridiculous.
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 13, 2017 23:54:26 GMT
First of all, I don't think this is even up for debate. Ian Noble takes input from us on many things, but the basic league's structure, and things like relocation, isn't one of them. He takes a strong view on maintaining realism when it comes to stuff like this. If it were up for debate, I think I'd be against it. If this door is opened, you can't really close it. The first thing I'd do if it were allowed is find an Eastern Conference GM who would swap with me. Playing in the Western Conference sucks. Playing in the Northwest Division sucks even worse. Life would be sweet in the East. If my team had a really great season, I think I could approach 70 wins. Having everyone constantly shifting to try and get the best schedule possible would get messy. Also, wasn't Vlade Divac given the opportunity to take the Kings when John Lodge was fired? Why didn't he do it? Lol, I want the Detroit Roster which is the thing that matters the most. Personally, it does not matter to me either way if Billups really likes the Pistons and wants us to trade logos and color, but, like I told him, it probably won't happen and gave him the Barber/Adams switch as precedent. Truth be told, I would move the Kings or the Pistons to somewhere a little less crazy than Sacramento or Detroit.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 13, 2017 23:58:57 GMT
This isn't about me trying to play in the East, Alex. Circumstances are slightly different. I'm not trying to bail on the West for a better chance to win.. It's not about everyone trying to constantly shift trying to get a better schedule? I didn't mention that once and I would never want that either. It's more about having a sentimental attachment to a team than trying to put myself in a better situation to win. That's ridiculous. Huh? I never said you wanted that. I said I wanted that. And if you can switch for your reasons, then why can't I switch for my reasons?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 0:03:54 GMT
This isn't about me trying to play in the East, Alex. Circumstances are slightly different. I'm not trying to bail on the West for a better chance to win.. It's not about everyone trying to constantly shift trying to get a better schedule? I didn't mention that once and I would never want that either. It's more about having a sentimental attachment to a team than trying to put myself in a better situation to win. That's ridiculous. Huh? I never said you wanted that. I said I wanted that. And if you can switch for your reasons, then why can't I switch for my reasons? Yeah, I'm not here to argue. My reason for switching is much different than what you would want, which is to get in the East and then get swept by GS.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 0:05:51 GMT
At the end of the day this is just fantasy, and just want to have fun. I would have a lot of fun handling the Pistons. That's all.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 14, 2017 0:07:44 GMT
you would have to trade all of your players for all of his, under the current rules, this does not work.
you could switch how josh and adam did
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 14, 2017 0:09:41 GMT
you would have to trade all of your players for all of his, under the current rules, this does not work. you could switch how josh and adam did Nope because I want the Piston's roster.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 0:13:32 GMT
This shit isn't life or death fellas.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 14, 2017 8:28:27 GMT
Not Happening
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:07:29 GMT
you would have to trade all of your players for all of his, under the current rules, this does not work. you could switch how josh and adam did I remember that hour where I owned the Nets...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:08:21 GMT
This shit isn't life or death fellas. It's not a good look to come into a league that has been around and decade and tell everyone how unimportant it is.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 16:10:12 GMT
This shit isn't life or death fellas. It's not a good look to come into a league that has been around and decade and tell everyone how unimportant it is. No man, that's not what I was getting at.. I love this league and I'm lucky to be here. I'm just saying at the end of the day it's all for fun. I would have a lot of fun being the Pistons, and Vlade the Kings, except both Vlade and I would like to keep our current rosters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:33:05 GMT
It's not a good look to come into a league that has been around and decade and tell everyone how unimportant it is. No man, that's not what I was getting at.. I love this league and I'm lucky to be here. I'm just saying at the end of the day it's all for fun. I would have a lot of fun being the Pistons, and Vlade the Kings, except both Vlade and I would like to keep our current rosters. It doesn't work that way because divisions. This shit IS too serious to just do that shit. And if you let one tandem do it... Gotta think about precedent.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 16:39:38 GMT
No man, that's not what I was getting at.. I love this league and I'm lucky to be here. I'm just saying at the end of the day it's all for fun. I would have a lot of fun being the Pistons, and Vlade the Kings, except both Vlade and I would like to keep our current rosters. It doesn't work that way because divisions. This shit IS too serious to just do that shit. And if you let one tandem do it... Gotta think about precedent. I figured divisions and even conferences would come into play, but I at least wanted to raise the question. I thought there was a slim possibility everybody would just stop and smell the roses instead of having a hard stance on everything.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 14, 2017 16:44:36 GMT
Not Happening Ian wouldn't let me do it when the Cavs came available (he was afraid of my amazing tanking and drafting skill). I'd be butthurt if he let you guys do it.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 14, 2017 16:46:55 GMT
There is something to be said for being GM of a team you aren't a fan of in real life. Do we think every real life GM works for his favorite team? Makes it more realistic, I've always liked the Griz in general but I'm actually sort of a fan now. I watch their games sometimes and such.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 16:53:25 GMT
There is something to be said for being GM of a team you aren't a fan of in real life. Do we think every real life GM works for his favorite team? Makes it more realistic, I've always liked the Griz in general but I'm actually sort of a fan now. I watch their games sometimes and such. You're missing my point.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 14, 2017 17:09:31 GMT
There is something to be said for being GM of a team you aren't a fan of in real life. Do we think every real life GM works for his favorite team? Makes it more realistic, I've always liked the Griz in general but I'm actually sort of a fan now. I watch their games sometimes and such. You're missing my point. And you're missing the larger point here. This isnt going to happen for all sort of reasons listed here and others, namely, Ian isn't going to tell you not to do something and then have all of us complain and fight for you to be able to do it. If your parents or whoever raised you told you "no" as a kid, did you go to your brothers and sisters and cousins to ban together to change his/her mind? Chances are you probably did, and chances are the answer was still no. Its principle but its a lot more than that. I don't want to be in the West, I'd like to switch, I'm sure a shitty team in the East would also like to switch because they would lose more games in the West because of the scheduling.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 17:14:08 GMT
Still missing the point.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 14, 2017 17:15:54 GMT
There is something to be said for being GM of a team you aren't a fan of in real life. Do we think every real life GM works for his favorite team? Makes it more realistic, I've always liked the Griz in general but I'm actually sort of a fan now. I watch their games sometimes and such. I'm similar in that, because of Jabari, I now watch loads of Bucks games if he's playing, or Sixers games for Embiid/Simmons etc etc It's just a bonus Jaylen plays for the Celtics
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 14, 2017 17:20:20 GMT
What if two teams in the same division wanted to switch?
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 14, 2017 17:24:40 GMT
For the record, I honestly do not care and told Chauncey this would not happen.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 17:26:33 GMT
For the record, I honestly do not care and told Chauncey this would not happen. And I believed you when you said it wouldn't. I knew it wouldn't. But it's really mind boggling how unwilling people are to listen to the other side of the aisle.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 14, 2017 17:31:40 GMT
I never even noticed John lodge was gone. Why did he get the boot?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 14, 2017 17:33:43 GMT
I never even noticed John lodge was gone. Why did he get the boot? He's gone because you didn't notice he was gone.
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 14, 2017 17:34:35 GMT
For the record, I honestly do not care and told Chauncey this would not happen. And I believed you when you said it wouldn't. I knew it wouldn't. But it's really mind boggling how unwilling people are to listen to the other side of the aisle. I think the main reason is it would be an undue burden on Ian Noble to switch all the team rosters for no reason really. Then other people want to do the same thing which creates a lot of work on Ian yet again.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 14, 2017 17:50:14 GMT
For the record, I honestly do not care and told Chauncey this would not happen. And I believed you when you said it wouldn't. I knew it wouldn't. But it's really mind boggling how unwilling people are to listen to the other side of the aisle. So its mind boggling that the admin who has been doing Sim Leagues for over a decade and other senior members who have been doing this for years won't immediately roll over to the demands of a GM who hasn't even been here a month?
LOL
I like you Chauncey but as a new GM you should learn more about the league and how it functions instead of trying to completely change rules that have been working for years before you
(Not to mention how poorly thought out this idea is)
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 14, 2017 17:59:56 GMT
And I believed you when you said it wouldn't. I knew it wouldn't. But it's really mind boggling how unwilling people are to listen to the other side of the aisle. I think the main reason is it would be an undue burden on Ian Noble to switch all the team rosters for no reason really. Then other people want to do the same thing which creates a lot of work on Ian yet again. It would take no time at all. I'm not doing it because it's bad for a hundred other reasons that I can't be bothered to list
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