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Post by Jared Montini on May 31, 2017 12:47:26 GMT
No one is giving up a lotto pick for a guy who's game is entirely predicated on athleticism who also just blew his knee out. You're on crack Billy. I bet Lavine has a better career than 50% of the players taken in the top 8 in this draft. Wanna lay some money on it? you think so? |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 13:05:19 GMT
I bet Lavine has a better career than 50% of the players taken in the top 8 in this draft. Wanna lay some money on it? you think so? Yep. But not a better career than the one I would pick  |
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Post by Ian Noble on May 31, 2017 13:36:03 GMT
Yep. But not a better career than the one I would pick  |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 17:32:17 GMT
Yep. But not a better career than the one I would pick Are you really confident that Fox, DSJ, Isaac, or Markannen are gonna have a better career than LaVine? |
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Post by Jared Montini on May 31, 2017 18:18:42 GMT
Are you really confident that Fox, DSJ, Isaac, or Markannen are gonna have a better career than LaVine? Smith yes Fox depends where he ends up and if he can improve the jumper Markanen possibly Issac is gonna have a long solid career but probably not as entertaining as lavine. Issac won't score as much eother |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 31, 2017 21:08:19 GMT
No one is giving up a lotto pick for a guy who's game is entirely predicated on athleticism who also just blew his knee out. You're on crack Billy. I bet Lavine has a better career than 50% of the players taken in the top 8 in this draft. Wanna lay some money on it? No because everyone knows that over half the players drafted end up sucking. Why would I bet the house. I'd bet that at least one of them has a better career than Lavine, which makes the trade stupid. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 23:45:33 GMT
I bet Lavine has a better career than 50% of the players taken in the top 8 in this draft. Wanna lay some money on it? No because everyone knows that over half the players drafted end up sucking. Why would I bet the house. I'd bet that at least one of them has a better career than Lavine, which makes the trade stupid. One of them having a career better than LaVine doesn't make the trade stupid. If you honestly believe that then you'd win the trade 7/8 times, which would make you fucking stupid for NOT doing it. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 1, 2017 2:42:28 GMT
One of them having a career better than LaVine doesn't make the trade stupid. If you honestly believe that then you'd win the trade 7/8 times, which would make you fucking stupid for NOT doing it. ------------ Here's the deal. Zach has already had a better career than most of the picks in the draft. That's how the draft works. Most players won't ever average 18ppg in a season. If only one of them has a career better than Zach Lavine that puts your chances of winning the trade at 1/8. Because you also have to choose between Zach and 7 other prospects. You have to pick the correct prospect as well. Then you run the risk of picking a clearly superior prospect to what Zach was at draft time also getting hurt, but earlier than Zach did. Derrick Rose, Gilbert Arenas, Danny Manning, Baron Davis, Brandon Roy, Penny Hardaway all guards ruined by ACL injuries. Some were a little worse than Zach Lavine but of all of these guys Lavine relies on his explosiveness the most (maybe Rose) and we've all seen how that's worked out. A bet on a well regarded rookie without a knee injury vs a guy who's had an ACL injury and entire game revolves around athleticism. Neither are a really good bet but we all know which holds more value in D5. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 2:44:36 GMT
One of them having a career better than LaVine doesn't make the trade stupid. If you honestly believe that then you'd win the trade 7/8 times, which would make you fucking stupid for NOT doing it. ------------ Here's the deal. Zach has already had a better career than most of the picks in the draft. That's how the draft works. Most players won't ever average 18ppg in a season. If only one of them has a career better than Zach Lavine that puts your chances of winning the trade at 1/8. Because you also have to choose between Zach and 7 other prospects. You have to pick the correct prospect as well. Then you run the risk of picking a clearly superior prospect to what Zach was at draft time also getting hurt, but earlier than Zach did. Derrick Rose, Gilbert Arenas, Danny Manning, Baron Davis, Brandon Roy, Penny Hardaway all guards ruined by ACL injuries. Some were a little worse than Zach Lavine but of all of these guys Lavine relies on his explosiveness the most (maybe Rose) and we've all seen how that's worked out. A bet on a well regarded rookie without a knee injury vs a guy who's had an ACL injury and entire game revolves around athleticism. Neither are a really good bet but we all know which holds more value in D5. His entire game doesn't revolve around athleticism. He's shot 39% from 3 over the last 120 games. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 1, 2017 3:39:25 GMT
His entire game doesn't revolve around athleticism. He's shot 39% from 3 over the last 120 games. OK, so we're not gonna say his athleticism has anything to do with getting him space because people play a little off of him to prevent the drive? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 1, 2017 8:30:30 GMT
The 5th pick in the 2017 Dynasty Five Draft will go to:  5. Utah Jazz (DET)Which means yours truly got lucky again! The second year running!  Boston Celtics move into the Top 3! But where in the Top 3 will they land?!?! Keep tuning into the Lottery to find out  edit: at last my own pick wont be #4  |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 1, 2017 10:47:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 11:56:54 GMT
Pick 5 is probably the hardest pick in the draft. Hope I can identify that 1/8 guy that'll be better than LaVine  |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jun 1, 2017 12:00:50 GMT
Pick 5 is probably the hardest pick in the draft. Hope I can identify that 1/8 guy that'll be better than LaVine I think every pick besides one and like 7-9 are tough. I don't know who I'd take number 2 in this draft |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 12:04:36 GMT
Pick 5 is probably the hardest pick in the draft. Hope I can identify that 1/8 guy that'll be better than LaVine I think every pick besides one and like 7-9 are tough. I don't know who I'd take number 2 in this draft 1-4 are pretty set in stone in my mind, but the NBA will probably throw a curveball. Some rumors flying around that Philly would pass on JJ to take Fox or DSJ. |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jun 1, 2017 12:08:31 GMT
I think every pick besides one and like 7-9 are tough. I don't know who I'd take number 2 in this draft 1-4 are pretty set in stone in my mind, but the NBA will probably throw a curveball. Some rumors flying around that Philly would pass on JJ to take Fox or DSJ. tbh I think DSJ is a better fit. Jacksons ft % scares me and Smiths ceiling is high |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 1, 2017 13:21:55 GMT
I think the top 5 in real life will be:
1. BOS Fultz
2. LAL Ball
3. PHI Tatum
4. PHX Jackson
5. SAC Fox
That's not who I think is best, but I think that's how it's going to play.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 1, 2017 13:50:31 GMT
If Jonathan Isaac doesn't go top 5, everyone's made a huge mistake
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 1, 2017 14:31:02 GMT
The best is Lonzo Ball.
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jun 1, 2017 23:01:06 GMT
The 5th pick in the 2017 Dynasty Five Draft will go to: Hey Adam, 5. Utah Jazz (DET)Which means yours truly got lucky again! The second year running! Boston Celtics move into the Top 3! But where in the Top 3 will they land?!?! Keep tuning into the Lottery to find out edit: at last my own pick wont be #4 |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jun 2, 2017 3:03:12 GMT
I think the top 5 in real life will be: 1. BOS Fultz 2. LAL Ball 3. PHI Tatum 4. PHX Jackson 5. SAC Fox That's not who I think is best, but I think that's how it's going to play. For D5, I feel like that big white dude who shoots three's will be the best in here |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 5:08:58 GMT
If Jonathan Isaac doesn't go top 5, everyone's made a huge mistake I'm gonna disagree on this one. I was higher on him earlier in the year but he didn't get any better over the course of the season and actually got worse in some aspects. His ceiling isn't that high and his floor is sooooo low. He reminds me of Aminu. But you like those guys, eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 5:30:34 GMT
The 5th pick in the 2017 Dynasty Five Draft will go to: Hey Adam, Only someone who doesn't know what is going on would think that I lost that trade after getting the 5th pick. Edit: *note you didn't "lose" the trade either. Frankly whoever I get at #5 this year has a better chance to turn into something special than whomever I would've gotten with those picks if I had kept them. If you tank hard enough though, you can get someone better with each of those picks. Good luck. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 2, 2017 7:59:50 GMT
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jun 2, 2017 15:24:25 GMT
Only someone who doesn't know what is going on would think that I lost that trade after getting the 5th pick. Edit: *note you didn't "lose" the trade either. Frankly whoever I get at #5 this year has a better chance to turn into something special than whomever I would've gotten with those picks if I had kept them. If you tank hard enough though, you can get someone better with each of those picks. Good luck. While there is definitely some truth to what you are saying, it would have made me sick if you won the draft lottery with my pick. Due to your positive attitude, however, I will root for your pick to be #1! |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 2, 2017 15:39:20 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 3, 2017 2:54:27 GMT
The 3rd pick in the 2017 Dynasty Five Draft will go to: 3. Boston Celtics |
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Post by Jay Z on Jun 3, 2017 3:09:32 GMT
The 3rd pick in the 2017 Dynasty Five Draft will go to: 3. Boston Celticsoh thank god |
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Post by Jay Z on Jun 3, 2017 3:11:31 GMT
since billy already knows his spot, can we just drop the formalities and let me know where i'm drafting. im probably the only one left interested in the process. wait has been killing me.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 3, 2017 3:34:02 GMT
since billy already knows his spot, can we just drop the formalities and let me know where i'm drafting. im probably the only one left interested in the process. wait has been killing me. Don't mess with Ian's schedules! |
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