Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 1, 2017 2:03:30 GMT
Current 78
suggested 80
i think it is time to put him in the 82 category. Averaging almost 20 ppg, 8 rbs, 2 blks, 1 stl and 1 assist. Still young and raw in some areas, but I believe he deserves the 82 tag.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 1, 2017 2:37:10 GMT
I concur. 80
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 1, 2017 2:51:12 GMT
Love this kid. 20 and 8 with blocks and 3's. 80 honestly isn't enough for what he does, but I understand if people still want to be cautious. I do not have that desire.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 1, 2017 3:56:28 GMT
81
Melo needs a decrease.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 1, 2017 4:16:21 GMT
85
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 1, 2017 7:57:50 GMT
I hope owners have the right to postpone the threads of their players who need increase  |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 1, 2017 15:14:25 GMT
83
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 1, 2017 16:53:00 GMT
I hope owners have the right to postpone the threads of their players who need increase You have people recommending 83 and 85, why would you want to postpone it? Not to mention jimmy butler had three threads in like three months. |
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Post by Alex English on Jan 1, 2017 18:06:52 GMT
83
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 2, 2017 11:33:40 GMT
I hope owners have the right to postpone the threads of their players who need increase You have people recommending 83 and 85, why would you want to postpone it? Not to mention jimmy butler had three threads in like three months. Because team success is not all about rating |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 2, 2017 15:34:08 GMT
You have people recommending 83 and 85, why would you want to postpone it? Not to mention jimmy butler had three threads in like three months. Because team success is not all about rating So we can lower all your players to a 70 then? It's a sim, of course it's about the ratings. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 3, 2017 2:55:47 GMT
Because team success is not all about rating So we can lower all your players to a 70 then? It's a sim, of course it's about the ratings. He wants his pick to be good. No Hana sorry lol. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 3, 2017 5:35:42 GMT
Because team success is not all about rating So we can lower all your players to a 70 then? It's a sim, of course it's about the ratings. Did I say I am against increasing his rating and I want it to be lowered? It is not all about ratings. If that is the case. Let us give the next five crowns to GSW already. How about that? |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 3, 2017 7:04:12 GMT
So we can lower all your players to a 70 then? It's a sim, of course it's about the ratings. Did I say I am against increasing his rating and I want it to be lowered? It is not all about ratings. If that is the case. Let us give the next five crowns to GSW already. How about that? It doesn't guarantee it, it just helps. We've seen huge upsets in the playoffs in D5 before. I've also seen really good teams miss the playoffs. Happens. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 3, 2017 8:34:44 GMT
So we can lower all your players to a 70 then? It's a sim, of course it's about the ratings. Did I say I am against increasing his rating and I want it to be lowered? It is not all about ratings. If that is the case. Let us give the next five crowns to GSW already. How about that? You're right, team success is not about his rating. Team success is about your player's ratings in each category and how well they mesh versus another teams ratings and how well their's mesh. So, in theory, you're right. Us increasing Porzingis could screw up you winning. But that's the fun part of all of this. That's where the skill comes in. If we increase Porzingis' three point, and you notice that he is making a higher percentage, but he isn't taking more three's but someone on your team is jacking up too many three's, do you trade that someone? Do you feel that Porzingis making more 3PT shots will translate to more wins for your squad? After your player is changed, it is important to look at those things. And adjust your team accordingly. The teams with the best players do not always win, but they have the best chance to win the most games. However, the team with the players playing the best together generally wins championships in all sports across the virtual world and real world. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 3, 2017 11:59:29 GMT
So we can lower all your players to a 70 then? It's a sim, of course it's about the ratings. Did I say I am against increasing his rating and I want it to be lowered? It is not all about ratings. If that is the case. Let us give the next five crowns to GSW already. How about that? As others said, you have a better chance to win. That was my point. And I would say GSW does have the best chance to win and everyone one else would probably agree. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 3, 2017 22:54:19 GMT
Did I say I am against increasing his rating and I want it to be lowered? It is not all about ratings. If that is the case. Let us give the next five crowns to GSW already. How about that? You're right, team success is not about his rating. Team success is about your player's ratings in each category and how well they mesh versus another teams ratings and how well their's mesh. So, in theory, you're right. Us increasing Porzingis could screw up you winning. But that's the fun part of all of this. That's where the skill comes in. If we increase Porzingis' three point, and you notice that he is making a higher percentage, but he isn't taking more three's but someone on your team is jacking up too many three's, do you trade that someone? Do you feel that Porzingis making more 3PT shots will translate to more wins for your squad? After your player is changed, it is important to look at those things. And adjust your team accordingly. The teams with the best players do not always win, but they have the best chance to win the most games. However, the team with the players playing the best together generally wins championships in all sports across the virtual world and real world. Totally agree. That is the reason why I want to further check how my team works before inserting an increase in the equation. |
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jan 8, 2017 21:37:34 GMT
84
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 9, 2017 23:47:08 GMT
This is the current ratings of KP and my suggestion: OFFENSE Aware 75 FG 72 3PT 67 + 19 - The guy is shooting 41.9% from beyond the arc with 5.5 attempts per game FT 85 Inside 65 + 12 Dunk 65 + 12 > Kristaps increased his efficiency in 0-3 feet by 12.3% Pass 14 Handle 23 + 20 - DEFENSE (Just fine  ) Aware 75 Steal 30 Block 76 Oreb 65 Dreb 75 The physicals also need some bumps. I will go with 83 |
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Post by James Kay on Jan 10, 2017 3:04:29 GMT
This is the current ratings of KP and my suggestion: OFFENSE Aware 75 FG 72 3PT 67 + 19 - The guy is shooting 41.9% from beyond the arc with 5.5 attempts per game FT 85 Inside 65 + 12 Dunk 65 + 12 > Kristaps increased his efficiency in 0-3 feet by 12.3% Pass 14 Handle 23 + 20 - DEFENSE (Just fine ) Aware 75 Steal 30 Block 76 Oreb 65 Dreb 75 The physicals also need some bumps. I will go with 83 Block and D Aware can both be higher... stats.nba.com/players/defensive-impact//#!?sort=DEF_RIM_FG_PCT&dir=-1&CF=GP*G*20:MIN*G*20:PLAYER_NAME*E*&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season Porz is #1 in DFG% #6 in blocks |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 14:21:40 GMT
he needs points of a wing that can block and shoot the 3
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 10, 2017 14:29:09 GMT
Editing my original post and changing my vote to an 82
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 10, 2017 17:30:06 GMT
he needs points of a wing that can block and shoot the 3 85 What the hell is going on he's getting 85's from you guys? You guys wanna fall for the NY hype some more and just boost him up to a 90 while you're at it? He still can't finish inside 2pt fg of 47% is bad, his mid-ranger needs work before we crown him lord of the sim. And just like Embiid and Towns they still all suck on D. Any tall athletic young guy can get 2 blocks a game. But blocks in the grand scheme of things mean very little (notice how Ibaka hasn't moved the needle at all for Orlando.) I think 85 is overrating Karl Towns at this point and Karl Towns is better than Kristaps in every measurable way other than 3pt%. Pts, FG%, RB, Asts are all better and in some cases (REB, ASTS) WAY better. Lets chill a bit. |
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Post by James Kay on Jan 10, 2017 18:03:53 GMT
he needs points of a wing that can block and shoot the 3 85 What the hell is going on he's getting 85's from you guys? You guys wanna fall for the NY hype some more and just boost him up to a 90 while you're at it? He still can't finish inside 2pt fg of 47% is bad, his mid-ranger needs work before we crown him lord of the sim. And just like Embiid and Towns they still all suck on D. Any tall athletic young guy can get 2 blocks a game. But blocks in the grand scheme of things mean very little (notice how Ibaka hasn't moved the needle at all for Orlando.) I think 85 is overrating Karl Towns at this point and Karl Towns is better than Kristaps in every measurable way other than 3pt%. Pts, FG%, RB, Asts are all better and in some cases (REB, ASTS) WAY better. Lets chill a bit. Nah sorry but you're wrong. I’m not falling for any NY hype, the kid is really good. >He still can't finish inside 2pt fg of 47% is bad Don’t know where you’re getting that stat from, reference shows that he’s shooting 70% at the rim. >His mid-range needs work Sure, his %s from mid-range are not fantastic. But a lot of that is him in the post which he is really weak at right now. His face up game and pull up game are nice though. > Just like Embiid and Towns they still all suck on D. Just no. Embiid and Porzingis are two of the best rim protectors in the game right now. And at present he’s #1 in rim protection, stats.nba.com/players/defensive-impact//#!?sort=DEF_RIM_FG_PCT&dir=-1&CF=GP*G*20:MIN*G*20:PLAYER_NAME*E*&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season It’s not just about blocks. A better example of that is Myles Turner, who gets a ton of blocks but isn’t actually too effective on defense (that will come with time tho, love MT). Porzingis is really so so good at defense, especially considering the cast he’s working with. Ibaka… IDK. It’s not really about blocks with him, synergy has him as a top 3 rim protector for the past like 4 years. This year… not so much. But who the fuck knows what the magic are doing so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt based on his consistency in OKC and the weird shit ORL is doing. In the comparison to KAT, I’d probably put KAT at around an 86 right now. Porzingis is a much more effective defender and a better shooter from the three, so I’m giving him an 85. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 10, 2017 20:41:54 GMT
James Kay Walt Frazier What the hell is going on he's getting 85's from you guys? You guys wanna fall for the NY hype some more and just boost him up to a 90 while you're at it? He still can't finish inside 2pt fg of 47% is bad, his mid-ranger needs work before we crown him lord of the sim. And just like Embiid and Towns they still all suck on D. Any tall athletic young guy can get 2 blocks a game. But blocks in the grand scheme of things mean very little (notice how Ibaka hasn't moved the needle at all for Orlando.) I think 85 is overrating Karl Towns at this point and Karl Towns is better than Kristaps in every measurable way other than 3pt%. Pts, FG%, RB, Asts are all better and in some cases (REB, ASTS) WAY better. Lets chill a bit. Nah sorry but you're wrong. I’m not falling for any NY hype, the kid is really good. >He still can't finish inside 2pt fg of 47% is bad Don’t know where you’re getting that stat from, reference shows that he’s shooting 70% at the rim. >His mid-range needs work Sure, his %s from mid-range are not fantastic. But a lot of that is him in the post which he is really weak at right now. His face up game and pull up game are nice though. > Just like Embiid and Towns they still all suck on D. Just no. Embiid and Porzingis are two of the best rim protectors in the game right now. And at present he’s #1 in rim protection, stats.nba.com/players/defensive-impact//#!?sort=DEF_RIM_FG_PCT&dir=-1&CF=GP*G*20:MIN*G*20:PLAYER_NAME*E*&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season It’s not just about blocks. A better example of that is Myles Turner, who gets a ton of blocks but isn’t actually too effective on defense (that will come with time tho, love MT). Porzingis is really so so good at defense, especially considering the cast he’s working with. Ibaka… IDK. It’s not really about blocks with him, synergy has him as a top 3 rim protector for the past like 4 years. This year… not so much. But who the fuck knows what the magic are doing so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt based on his consistency in OKC and the weird shit ORL is doing. In the comparison to KAT, I’d probably put KAT at around an 86 right now. Porzingis is a much more effective defender and a better shooter from the three, so I’m giving him an 85. Interesting, well I'm sticking with my rating but I rescind my being mad about your ratings. Although I still think they aren't as good yet as you think. Just watching Kristaaps, Karl Towns, and Embiid vs each other you can tell that they give each other fits, the problem is, outside of Dwight or Anthony Davis there isn't really any other bigs to give them trouble on the defensive end in man to man. When those guys play any of each other the rooks look bad on defense I guess is what I meant. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 12, 2017 2:41:07 GMT
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Post by Jared Montini on Jan 16, 2017 23:39:23 GMT
85
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Post by Brandon Roy on Jan 17, 2017 8:15:24 GMT
83
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Post by Shane Battier on Jan 24, 2017 11:51:26 GMT
84
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Post by Julius Erving on Jan 25, 2017 10:34:59 GMT
82
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