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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Feb 1, 2016 11:49:42 GMT
9 triple doubles SO far this year and made the all star team, really he should be started but whatever.
Overall: 85
Asking: 90
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 1, 2016 13:04:23 GMT
88
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Post by James Kay on Feb 1, 2016 13:22:58 GMT
89
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Feb 1, 2016 13:57:09 GMT
How much of Curry plays a factor into his success?
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Feb 1, 2016 14:08:41 GMT
How much of Curry plays a factor into his success? I thought about the same thing. It's hard for me to determine based off the fact that every player on that team is above average. 86. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 1, 2016 15:13:36 GMT
He is a freaking beast. I love Dray so much I've never regretted something as much as not signing him in the offseason.
He may be the best defender in the NBA given his versatility and his offensive game is really really good too. He bangs threes and is a terrific passer. Not to mention his mentality is so hard nosed. 89 he's so terrific.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 1, 2016 23:50:54 GMT
The part of me that doesn't want to get yelled at by some people wants to stay conservative and put in an 89, but since that will likely be one of the high votes and essentially get thrown out, I'll go with my actual feeling on this and put in a 91 right now.
Rebounds like one of the better bigs in the league. Passes like one of the better PG's in the league, and has a pretty good handle to boot. High offensive awareness. Quite possibly the best defender in the league and gets a good chunk of steals and blocks too. Decent 3pt shot that needs to be accounted for (it is in his ratings, I'm just saying it needs to be in there along with all this other stuff!). He not only does a lot of these things, he's REALLY GOOD at a lot of these things.
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Feb 2, 2016 3:29:53 GMT
89 ^^
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Post by James Kay on Feb 12, 2016 5:10:47 GMT
bump. this guy is averaging 48.5% and 42% from three. his assist game. his defense. he needs to be like a 90.
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Post by Brandon Roy on Feb 12, 2016 7:16:08 GMT
89 is ok with him
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 28, 2016 14:27:28 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 28, 2016 15:39:20 GMT
Draymond is a great guy but put him on any other team in the league and I don't think he's posting triple-doubles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 17:16:36 GMT
87
If you put him on the Bucks he would be shittier than Khris Middleton.
Also james harden sucks
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Post by Alex English on Mar 28, 2016 20:26:18 GMT
85.
He's been shooting 29% from three since the All-Star break, bringing his average closer to his career average of 34%. He also scores just 14 points per game. You can turn him into a point forward, but he's limited offensively, and clearly not the type of player that can carry a team by himself. I'm still not convinced he plays anything like this on any other team.
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Post by Spike Lee on Mar 29, 2016 16:30:40 GMT
90
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 31, 2016 10:09:22 GMT
Good lord... 90?! Really?!
As with the Kevin Love saga of 18 months ago, 89+ ratings are reserved for superstars or players who have led their teams to championships. I get that Draymond is a huge part of the Warriors success, but he's not 90 imho.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 12:39:36 GMT
Good lord... 90?! Really?! As with the Kevin Love saga of 18 months ago, 89+ ratings are reserved for superstars or players who have led their teams to championships. I get that Draymond is a huge part of the Warriors success, but he's not 90 imho. Uhhhh how many players rates 89+ right now have a ring? Does RW have a ring? Does durant have a ring? Does harden have a ring? Does Paul George have a ring? Does ad have a ring? All these guys are rated 89+ right (too busy to look)? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 31, 2016 13:20:18 GMT
Good lord... 90?! Really?! As with the Kevin Love saga of 18 months ago, 89+ ratings are reserved for superstars or players who have led their teams to championships. I get that Draymond is a huge part of the Warriors success, but he's not 90 imho. Uhhhh how many players rates 89+ right now have a ring? Does RW have a ring? Does durant have a ring? Does harden have a ring? Does Paul George have a ring? Does ad have a ring? All these guys are rated 89+ right (too busy to look)? That's why I wrote "superstars or..." |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 13:23:43 GMT
Uhhhh how many players rates 89+ right now have a ring? Does RW have a ring? Does durant have a ring? Does harden have a ring? Does Paul George have a ring? Does ad have a ring? All these guys are rated 89+ right (too busy to look)? That's why I wrote "superstars or..." Ah, I read it as "superstar players" |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Mar 31, 2016 15:34:53 GMT
Honestly I think he's a more important player for the Warriors than Klay Thompson. However I don't believe that he'd replicate this sort of thing on say the jazz or something. He would still be good but hes not a player with any elite skill. Elite passer for the 4 spot but thats about it.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 31, 2016 19:44:39 GMT
Honestly I think he's a more important player for the Warriors than Klay Thompson. However I don't believe that he'd replicate this sort of thing on say the jazz or something. He would still be good but hes not a player with any elite skill. Elite passer for the 4 spot but thats about it. Also the 2nd best defender in the league and arguably the most impactful |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 31, 2016 20:25:45 GMT
I feel as though his success could not be replicated in 85% of the other teams in this league, either because of poor coaching or the wrong teammates.
With that being said, you can't disregard what he does just because he is in a good system for him.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Mar 31, 2016 21:25:52 GMT
Honestly I think he's a more important player for the Warriors than Klay Thompson. However I don't believe that he'd replicate this sort of thing on say the jazz or something. He would still be good but hes not a player with any elite skill. Elite passer for the 4 spot but thats about it. Also the 2nd best defender in the league and arguably the most impactful I think that when all is said and done I don't know if he is elite at enough things to get enough of those 90+ stats to bring the ovr over 90. |
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Post by Julius Erving on Apr 1, 2016 14:19:36 GMT
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 1, 2016 18:12:35 GMT
The thing with Dray is that he is good in almost every category. Good physical stats, good passing, shooting, inside, dunk, defense. He is a 5x5 threat every night.
That means he needs A LOT of points, but it also means that his OVR should look inflated to properly account for everything he does.
Do-it-all players need higher OVRs than what should look necessary to account for all of their abilities.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Apr 1, 2016 22:46:23 GMT
 Give the best all-around player in the league the right rating. 90 |
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Post by Alex English on Apr 2, 2016 15:32:13 GMT
vine.co/v/ijrQBvlddpHHow easy is it to be an elite defender when you can literally body check people and not get called for a foul? Ref just shrugs. I really hope the NBA doesn't give the Warriors bullshit favoritism to help them get the record, somehow I think they will though, it's too good of a story, and too much hype for the playoffs.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 2, 2016 18:38:13 GMT
https://vine.co/v/ijrQBvlddpHHow easy is it to be an elite defender when you can literally body check people and not get called for a foul? Ref just shrugs. I really hope the NBA doesn't give the Warriors bullshit favoritism to help them get the record, somehow I think they will though, it's too good of a story, and too much hype for the playoffs. Yea... that's the only way he knows to play defense. Super sample size bias to illustrate your point! For what it's worth, I hate seeing bad calls and favoritism, just saying, he IS a great defender. That play was crazy though |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 2, 2016 20:55:55 GMT
How easy is it to be an elite defender when you can literally body check people and not get called for a foul? Ref just shrugs. I really hope the NBA doesn't give the Warriors bullshit favoritism to help them get the record, somehow I think they will though, it's too good of a story, and too much hype for the playoffs. Of all the professional sports leagues, excluding FIFA, I think the NBA would be most likely to "fix" something like this. The lottery system just reeks of corruption. And considering the games right now really don't matter, I think the NBA would do something like this. Also, when you're playing at home, the refs give you calls, or don't call things, especially when you're a winning team with a huge fan base. A ref doesn't want to be boo'd if he misses a call. Also I am hugely skeptical of all the refs since the Mob Ref. |
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Post by Alex English on Apr 2, 2016 23:23:33 GMT
Of all the professional sports leagues, excluding FIFA, I think the NBA would be most likely to "fix" something like this. The lottery system just reeks of corruption. And considering the games right now really don't matter, I think the NBA would do something like this. Also, when you're playing at home, the refs give you calls, or don't call things, especially when you're a winning team with a huge fan base. A ref doesn't want to be boo'd if he misses a call. Also I am hugely skeptical of all the refs since the Mob Ref. Yea, I don't really think there is some conspiracy or actual instructions do to anything, but everybody at the NBA definitely wants them to break the record. It's an entertainment business, how can they not want the most entertaining story lines? That will filter down and affect the way games are reffed, consciously or subconsciously. It's the same reason stars get beneficial calls from the refs. |
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