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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jul 8, 2015 2:12:28 GMT
John Wall is going back to Portland. After the resigning of his teammate and friend LaMarcus Aldridge, John Wall wanted to rejoin his team. John Wall feels that if Portland is able to win again he will stay for the long term but just like LaMarcus Aldridge, John Wall has a player option in the 2nd year of his contract if it does not go well.
John Wall would like to thank all the teams who offered for his services but he wanted to return back.
2015/16 - $22,632,000
2016/17 - $24,668,880 - Player Option
2017/18 - $26,889,079
2018/19 - $29,309,096
2019/20 - $31,946,914
2020/21 - $35,461,074
Total: $170,907,043
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2015 2:21:49 GMT
Great choice!
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jul 8, 2015 2:53:10 GMT
Welcome back John! Very relieved that my two stars decided to return. The player options could face me with the same same dilemma next year though... I'll have a year to tweak my roster though  |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 8, 2015 8:21:14 GMT
I'm guessing I came second in the bidding for John Wall also?
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jul 8, 2015 10:39:47 GMT
You did, basically if LaMarcus did not return, wall would of went elsewhere (Boston)
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 8, 2015 10:55:03 GMT
Nooooooooooooooooo
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2015 12:18:34 GMT
Other GMs need to stop offering these bullshit Player Options. You are going to over saturate the market with players next season.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2015 12:30:54 GMT
Other GMs need to stop offering these bullshit Player Options. You are going to over saturate the market with players next season. It will mean more fun  Or more chaos? haha |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2015 13:10:13 GMT
Other GMs need to stop offering these bullshit Player Options. You are going to over saturate the market with players next season. It will mean more fun Or more chaos? haha Its the same reason all these stars took regular deals this offseason. If they all opt out for next season then they go into a market that has twice as many players (Because if they all opt out for next season thats how many there will be.) Then they lose all bargaining power. They would end up making the same amount of money as they are gonna get anyways. Only the very best players will get these super max deals. Unlike now where everyone with even a sliver of being awesome gets the max. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2015 13:14:40 GMT
So while you guys are all slapping dicks to try and resign Wall, LaMarcus, and Cousins and Milsap and all the other randoms (Apparently Robert fucking Covington has the nerve to ask for a player option) to 35 million dollar contracts Vlade is gonna end up getting Durant and LBJ for basically the same price.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2015 13:15:40 GMT
And someone has the stupidity to offer that to Covington apparently.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2015 13:43:01 GMT
It will mean more fun Or more chaos? haha Its the same reason all these stars took regular deals this offseason. If they all opt out for next season then they go into a market that has twice as many players (Because if they all opt out for next season thats how many there will be.) Then they lose all bargaining power. They would end up making the same amount of money as they are gonna get anyways. Only the very best players will get these super max deals. Unlike now where everyone with even a sliver of being awesome gets the max. Youre wrong. The increase in the cap should be more than enough to suffice for the increase of the players in the market. And, actually the FA class next season is not as deep as this year. I do believe the players in real life are more basketball minded than business minded unlike here in D5. |
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Post by Ghazny Dimalen on Jul 8, 2015 14:00:17 GMT
I agree.
In D5 most of the player demand to have a player option in 2016-2017 season.
Player option is so trending.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2015 14:14:22 GMT
Its the same reason all these stars took regular deals this offseason. If they all opt out for next season then they go into a market that has twice as many players (Because if they all opt out for next season thats how many there will be.) Then they lose all bargaining power. They would end up making the same amount of money as they are gonna get anyways. Only the very best players will get these super max deals. Unlike now where everyone with even a sliver of being awesome gets the max. Youre wrong. The increase in the cap should be more than enough to suffice for the increase of the players in the market. And, actually the FA class next season is not as deep as this year. I do believe the players in real life are more basketball minded than business minded unlike here in D5. I disagree. Having 10-15 allstars available in free agency is a bad thing. Especially when a lot aren't even gonna have Bird Rights. Also to Detroit, don't offer a stupid player option. No one I've talked to has started off with those offers. Just don't offer the player option. They can't accept what they don't get offered. |
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Jul 8, 2015 14:24:14 GMT
Many of the player options are at the demand of the Player Agents. They are keeping their players options open for when the cap jumps up.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2015 14:25:33 GMT
Many of the player options are at the demand of the Player Agents. They are keeping their players options open for when the cap jumps up. Then just don't offer it. Say no. What are they gonna do leave Cousins and Wall unsigned? |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 8, 2015 14:32:22 GMT
Many of the player options are at the demand of the Player Agents. They are keeping their players options open for when the cap jumps up. Then just don't offer it. Say no. What are they gonna do leave Cousins and Wall unsigned? With so many poeple offering contracts, player agents have ALL the leverage in this league. It is basically impossible to actually negotiate a contract for a top player... you are essentially just told what the player wants and can either accept or lose out |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2015 14:33:36 GMT
You cannot run the market the way you want it to be. A market of demand and supply will never go wrong because there is no perfect market.
And we think differently than the nba gms.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 8, 2015 14:54:41 GMT
The argument for the player options makes sense, but you also have to offer it to them to retain your players. What am I suppose to do, not offer Cousins a player option next year and lose him to another team that did? You're logic makes sense, but reality is far away. Also, if you think the player agent will let Lebron and Durant go to the same team, you're high. I think a lot of people would leave D5 if that was allowed. Furthermore, Westbrook is going to leave the Kings next year due to the Lilliard situation. And if the player agent falls for a stupid ass comment like, "We guarantee Westbrook the starting PG spot and we will move Lilliard to SG", then there should be a riot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 14:58:18 GMT
The argument for the player options makes sense, but you also have to offer it to them to retain your players. What am I suppose to do, not offer Cousins a player option next year and lose him to another team that did? You're logic makes sense, but reality is far away. Also, if you think the player agent will let Lebron and Durant go to the same team, you're high. I think a lot of people would leave D5 if that was allowed. Furthermore, Westbrook is going to leave the Kings next year due to the Lilliard situation. And if the player agent falls for a stupid ass comment like, "We guarantee Westbrook the starting PG spot and we will move Lilliard to SG", then there should be a riot. IMO Westbrook would be a better SG... but he believes he is a PG. I think having two PG really hurts the kings in the sim anyway, he would be wise to trade one of them (westbrook) for a landfall of value |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 8, 2015 15:00:38 GMT
How do you figure he is a better SG? His shot is subpar and he gets almost all his points from the elbow or driving the lane. We also have to take real life situations into play. We can't make assumptions and say that he would be a better SG when he doesn't play it irl.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 15:11:32 GMT
How do you figure he is a better SG? His shot is subpar and he gets almost all his points from the elbow or driving the lane. We also have to take real life situations into play. We can't make assumptions and say that he would be a better SG when he doesn't play it irl. WATH THE SKIP BAYLESS VIDEO! I do want to thank you guys, though, I need to find out if Ian will consider Westbrook a PG or a SG next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 15:13:07 GMT
The argument for the player options makes sense, but you also have to offer it to them to retain your players. What am I suppose to do, not offer Cousins a player option next year and lose him to another team that did? You're logic makes sense, but reality is far away. Also, if you think the player agent will let Lebron and Durant go to the same team, you're high. I think a lot of people would leave D5 if that was allowed. Furthermore, Westbrook is going to leave the Kings next year due to the Lilliard situation. And if the player agent falls for a stupid ass comment like, "We guarantee Westbrook the starting PG spot and we will move Lilliard to SG", then there should be a riot. You weren't in the league then but everyone should have left when GS signed Pau Gasol and resigned Stephen Curry. It's called hyperbole dude; I will probably end up with Lebron or Durant and someone like Klay Thompson/Jimmy Butler/Kawhi Leonard/Al Jefferson/Al Horford/Pau Milsap...that works for me. |
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Post by James Kay on Jul 8, 2015 15:15:47 GMT
The argument for the player options makes sense, but you also have to offer it to them to retain your players. What am I suppose to do, not offer Cousins a player option next year and lose him to another team that did? You're logic makes sense, but reality is far away. Also, if you think the player agent will let Lebron and Durant go to the same team, you're high. I think a lot of people would leave D5 if that was allowed. Furthermore, Westbrook is going to leave the Kings next year due to the Lilliard situation. And if the player agent falls for a stupid ass comment like, "We guarantee Westbrook the starting PG spot and we will move Lilliard to SG", then there should be a riot. You weren't in the league then but everyone should have left when GS signed Pau Gasol and resigned Stephen Curry. Okay, so I end up with Lebron or Durant and someone like Klay Thompson/Jimmy Butler/Kawhi Leonard/Al Jefferson...that works for me. Im just generally curious why you are so confident you will get lebron or durant |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 15:15:54 GMT
How do you figure he is a better SG? His shot is subpar and he gets almost all his points from the elbow or driving the lane. We also have to take real life situations into play. We can't make assumptions and say that he would be a better SG when he doesn't play it irl. I don't know why is Dwayne wade a better SG? They are the same player basically |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2015 15:17:23 GMT
The argument for the player options makes sense, but you also have to offer it to them to retain your players. What am I suppose to do, not offer Cousins a player option next year and lose him to another team that did? You're logic makes sense, but reality is far away. Also, if you think the player agent will let Lebron and Durant go to the same team, you're high. I think a lot of people would leave D5 if that was allowed. Furthermore, Westbrook is going to leave the Kings next year due to the Lilliard situation. And if the player agent falls for a stupid ass comment like, "We guarantee Westbrook the starting PG spot and we will move Lilliard to SG", then there should be a riot. What if KD really wants to win a crown and he will be willing to join LBJ? Dont believe your opinions as facts because you may not accept what the reality may bring. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2015 15:17:29 GMT
Either way the contracts were supposed to be realistic, its why we were waiting to see what real life players do in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 15:18:15 GMT
You weren't in the league then but everyone should have left when GS signed Pau Gasol and resigned Stephen Curry. Okay, so I end up with Lebron or Durant and someone like Klay Thompson/Jimmy Butler/Kawhi Leonard/Al Jefferson...that works for me. Im just generally curious why you are so confident you will get lebron or durant Why wouldn't I be confident that I will get Lebron AND Durant? |
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jul 8, 2015 16:15:27 GMT
I love the confidence Vlade!
You might have a chance at Lebron and/or Durant next offseason, but you've also got to resign Westbrook too.
If you can manage to sign all 3 of those guys you are a better GM than Pat Riley!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 16:20:16 GMT
I love the confidence Vlade! You might have a chance at Lebron and/or Durant next offseason, but you've also got to resign Westbrook too. If you can manage to sign all 3 of those guys you are a better GM than Pat Riley! That's why I am talking trash to you even though you will probably kick my ass next year. |
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