Glenn Robinson
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Post by Glenn Robinson on May 9, 2015 2:46:25 GMT
Milwaukee Trades:
(83) Jrue Holiday - $12,000,000 - $12,000,000 - $12,500,000 - $12,500,000 - $13,000,000
(71) Kendall Marshall - $1,008,400 - $1,816,128 - $2,667,893
2015 1st round pick (Currently #28)
Total Salary: $13,008,400
Utah Trades:
(86) Jeff Teague - $9,750,000 - $10,140,000 - $10,545,600 - $10,967,424 - $11,406,121
(75) Marcus Morris - $2,943,221 - $4,094,020
Total Salary: $12,693,221
I accept.
Hate giving up 1st round picks. Absolutely hate it. But this helps bolster my scoring with Teague and JR can fuck off.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 2:47:18 GMT
Accept based more on my ceiling concern for Teague than my thinking holiday is the shit
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 9, 2015 3:10:09 GMT
I'll accept.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on May 9, 2015 5:13:52 GMT
Accept
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Post by Danny Longley on May 9, 2015 5:43:41 GMT
Accept as well.
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JR Wiles
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Post by JR Wiles on May 9, 2015 10:15:03 GMT
Hahaha
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Post by Ian Noble on May 9, 2015 10:46:02 GMT
I accept.
Trade passed.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 9, 2015 12:16:35 GMT
I think this completes Adam's dismantlement of my Jazz team. Can't even believe this one got passed with no hiccups.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 12:46:32 GMT
I think this completes Adam's dismantlement of my Jazz team. Can't even believe this one got passed with no hiccups. Meh watching his game I think Teague is over rated at an86, and think he will probably settle a little lower than that. I believe I was in 14th in the west when you gave me your team and have gotten younger and more talented at every position. Which move do you hate? Gortat for a lotto pick? MKG for whiteside? Thaddeus young for Noah vonleh? Tyreke for lance? I guess this is certainly the most questionable one, but I think I won the others, and jrue is rated a whopping 3 points lower than Teague who is probably at his ceiling right now. Meh. You can have your lance Stephenson. Let's just see where both our teams are in 2018. I have a much later window than you due to conference, the team you gave me has 0% of winning a title ever, this one has a shot in 2018. Just like Phil Jackson with the Knicks... No maybe I didn't get equal value but the old product was going nowhere better to blow it up and make it my own. |
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Post by JR Wiles on May 9, 2015 13:16:54 GMT
Jeff Teague is just as good as Holiday stat wise. The thing is Holidays team is out of the playoffs and Teague still has a shot at winning it all. Teague is a good player, but overrated at times. If he does not score and have a good game for the Hawks, and control the tempo and move the ball the Hawks are beatable. Good trade from both sides here. The fact is during the 2015 playoffs Holiday should have never suited up. He hurt his team. Its def cool that I forced a trade. I had full right to speak the truth though. Holiday should still not be playing. That won't change. I've accepted that. Now we wait and see if that was a good move or a bad one for both. Best of luck to you guys.. Lol
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 9, 2015 13:54:55 GMT
I think this completes Adam's dismantlement of my Jazz team. Can't even believe this one got passed with no hiccups. Meh watching his game I think Teague is over rated at an86, and think he will probably settle a little lower than that. I believe I was in 14th in the west when you gave me your team and have gotten younger and more talented at every position. Which move do you hate? Gortat for a lotto pick? MKG for whiteside? Thaddeus young for Noah vonleh? Tyreke for lance? I guess this is certainly the most questionable one, but I think I won the others, and jrue is rated a whopping 3 points lower than Teague who is probably at his ceiling right now. Meh. You can have your lance Stephenson. Let's just see where both our teams are in 2018. I have a much later window than you due to conference, the team you gave me has 0% of winning a title ever, this one has a shot in 2018. Just like Phil Jackson with the Knicks... No maybe I didn't get equal value but the old product was going nowhere better to blow it up and make it my own. tldr |
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Post by Sam Bowie on May 9, 2015 14:48:26 GMT
I agree with Josh. Utah sucks, LOL.
This was the move Bucks needed to do and I have been thinking it for some time with or without Jrue's injury status. Teague is not only better than Holiday but he is less expensive. That extra cap will be huge for Bucks during next off-season. Yes, Morris adds money against the cap but he could easily be traded for cap space so I don't count him.
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Post by Alex English on May 9, 2015 14:55:01 GMT
Whoa, this is a bad trade. I agree with Josh. There is a big gap from Teague to Holiday and Morris is almost equal to Marhsall and the pick. It's passed already so this doesn't matter but this is not a good move for the Jazz.
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Larry Bird
 Indiana Pacers
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Post by Larry Bird on May 9, 2015 14:56:07 GMT
He loses cap space through this trade with the addition of Morris.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 15:05:15 GMT
Whoa, this is a bad trade. I agree with Josh. There is a big gap from Teague to Holiday and Morris is almost equal to Marhsall and the pick. It's passed already so this doesn't matter but this is not a good move for the Jazz. Well now I know I'm fucked that the guy everyone gang follows in rating threads hates Holiday. Great. I should probably just message you beforehand on whether players are better than the other. Holiday is a MUCH better defender than Teague. He is as good as a distrubutor (different system, not primary ball handler on pelicans), and he is a better long rage shooter than Teague. The only thing Teague is better at than Holiday is slashing to the rim, and I have Tyreke Evans. If Jrue Holiday's individual ratings are as they should be, he will play much better next to Tyreke than Teague did. On morris though, I agree 100%. But did you see the sims? did you see my complaints? No matter what I did I could not get Morris to play more than single digit minutes off the bench, and when he was in the starting lineup he only took more than 3 shots ONCE. He is just shit in the sim. Though I'm sure a rating thread will pop up and he will be changed soon. |
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Post by Alex English on May 9, 2015 15:28:30 GMT
Well now I know I'm fucked that the guy everyone gang follows in rating threads hates Holiday. Great. I should probably just message you beforehand on whether players are better than the other. You should have. I'd have told you how much better Mario Chalmers is compared to Teague. You could have traded me Teague for Mario and Brandon Rush. It would have benefited both out teams. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 9, 2015 15:41:15 GMT
TBH Teague is a system guy, but then again so is Tony Parker and Deron Williams and we see how high they got.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 15:52:33 GMT
TBH Teague is a system guy, but then again so is Tony Parker and Deron Williams and we see how high they got. Teague is nothing special and I believe his rating will settle around 83-84, while if jrue comes back healthy he could be an 89 on one of the hottest teams in the NBA over the next 5 years |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 9, 2015 18:35:06 GMT
Just because the Hawks run a system doesn't mean Teague is automatically a system guy. He's probably the most athletic PG in the league outside of Westbrook, and he can shoot, pass, and defend. Honestly, I think he would put up even better stats if he wasn't on the Hawks.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 19:03:23 GMT
Honestly, I think he would put up even better stats if he wasn't on the Hawks. This is something I agree with and a part of my issue with him. |
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Post by James Kay on May 9, 2015 22:09:47 GMT
Ha I think it would be pretty fucking funny if Teague got injured since he's still in the playoffs at the moment
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Post by Sam Bowie on May 10, 2015 0:18:52 GMT
Great tanking move. Wait.  |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 10, 2015 0:55:05 GMT
Just because the Hawks run a system doesn't mean Teague is automatically a system guy. He's probably the most athletic PG in the league outside of Westbrook, and he can shoot, pass, and defend. Honestly, I think he would put up even better stats if he wasn't on the Hawks. Yeah he's right after Westbrook in athleticism if you don't count like 5 other guys. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 10, 2015 1:37:35 GMT
Just because the Hawks run a system doesn't mean Teague is automatically a system guy. He's probably the most athletic PG in the league outside of Westbrook, and he can shoot, pass, and defend. Honestly, I think he would put up even better stats if he wasn't on the Hawks. Yeah he's right after Westbrook in athleticism if you don't count like 5 other guys. I'd like to see that list |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 10, 2015 2:16:43 GMT
Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Dragic, Paul, Payton.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 10, 2015 2:19:18 GMT
Bledsoe
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 2:37:17 GMT
Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Dragic, Paul, Payton.  |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 10, 2015 3:33:46 GMT
Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Dragic, Paul, Payton. The only person on that list outside Westbrook that you can even argue is Wall. The rest are clearly not as athletic as Teague |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 10, 2015 6:23:18 GMT
Lol whatever.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 12, 2015 1:18:03 GMT
Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Dragic, Paul, Payton. The only person on that list outside Westbrook that you can even argue is Wall. The rest are clearly not as athletic as Teague Schroeder instead of Teague OMG so athletic. |
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