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Post by Alex English on Apr 17, 2015 17:54:14 GMT
Who do you guys have for the end of season awards?
Here are my picks:
MVP - James Harden (HOU) He's more valuable to his team than Curry, the Rockets wouldn't even make the playoffs without Harden.
DPOY - Kawhi Leonard (SAS) It's not really clear who should win this year, imo Kawhi deserves it more than Green/Gobert/Whoever.
Coach - Steve Kerr (GSW) They went from 51 wins to 67 wins with basically the same roster. It could also go to Budenholzer for the Hawks.
MIP - Jimmy Butler (CHI) Unlike most years Butler didn't just put up big numbers from an increase in playing time, he played the same amount last year and still improved a ton in pretty much every way.
ROY - Andrew Wiggins (MIN) Obviously. Noel and Mirotic were alright, but Wiggins won this in like January.
6Man - Lou Williams (TOR) Lou gets buckets. He doesn't do much else, but he's still single-handedly won games for the Raptors.
All-NBA First Team: Stephen Curry Russell Westbrook James Harden LeBron James Anthony Davis
All-Defensive First Team: Tony Allen Draymond Green Kawhi Leonard Anthony Davis Rudy Gobert
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 17:56:43 GMT
Who do you guys have for the end of season awards? Here are my picks: MVP - James Harden (HOU) He's more valuable to his team than Curry, the Rockets wouldn't even make the playoffs without Harden. DPOY - Kawhi Leonard (SAS) It's not really clear who should win this year, imo Kawhi deserves it more than Green/Gobert/Whoever. Coach - Steve Kerr (GSW) They went from 51 wins to 67 wins with basically the same roster. It could also go to Budenholzer for the Hawks. MIP - Jimmy Butler (CHI) Unlike most years Butler didn't just put up big numbers from an increase in playing time, he played the same amount last year and still improved a ton in pretty much every way. ROY - Andrew Wiggins (MIN) Obviously. Noel and Mirotic were alright, but Wiggins won this in like January. 6Man - Lou Williams (TOR) Lou gets buckets. He doesn't do much else, but he's still single-handedly won games for the Raptors. All-NBA First Team: Stephen Curry Russell Westbrook James Harden LeBron James Anthony Davis All-Defensive First Team: Tony Allen Draymond Green Kawhi Leonard Anthony Davis Rudy Gobert Other than some of the orders, I agree with all of those picks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 17:57:38 GMT
Maybe Budenholzer
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Post by James Kay on Apr 17, 2015 19:34:00 GMT
Who do you guys have for the end of season awards? Here are my picks: MVP - James Harden (HOU) He's more valuable to his team than Curry, the Rockets wouldn't even make the playoffs without Harden. DPOY - Kawhi Leonard (SAS) It's not really clear who should win this year, imo Kawhi deserves it more than Green/Gobert/Whoever. Coach - Steve Kerr (GSW) They went from 51 wins to 67 wins with basically the same roster. It could also go to Budenholzer for the Hawks. MIP - Jimmy Butler (CHI) Unlike most years Butler didn't just put up big numbers from an increase in playing time, he played the same amount last year and still improved a ton in pretty much every way. ROY - Andrew Wiggins (MIN) Obviously. Noel and Mirotic were alright, but Wiggins won this in like January. 6Man - Lou Williams (TOR) Lou gets buckets. He doesn't do much else, but he's still single-handedly won games for the Raptors. All-NBA First Team: Stephen Curry Russell Westbrook James Harden LeBron James Anthony Davis All-Defensive First Team: Tony Allen Draymond Green Kawhi Leonard Anthony Davis Rudy Gobert Wow, very strongly agree with almost all of these. Only thing is I think Iggy or IT3 have arguments for 6man over LouWill. Kerr and Wiggins are absolute locks. DPOY should go to kawhi, but will probably go to DJ or Dray. MIP could maybe go to Davis, just because he’s been utterly dominant this year, but he has in the past so its probably Butler’s to lose. Curry will probably win MVP, honestly, he and Harden have such strong cases from different perspectives there’s no wrong answer. But I think Curry will win it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 19:46:38 GMT
Wow, very strongly agree with almost all of these. Only thing is I think Iggy or IT3 have arguments for 6man over LouWill. Kerr and Wiggins are absolute locks. DPOY should go to kawhi, but will probably go to DJ or Dray. MIP could maybe go to Davis, just because he’s been utterly dominant this year, but he has in the past so its probably Butler’s to lose. Curry will probably win MVP, honestly, he and Harden have such strong cases from different perspectives there’s no wrong answer. But I think Curry will win it. I don't know if I would call Kerr a lock, Budenholz will receive a lot of votes... maybe more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 21:35:16 GMT
I think DeAndre Jordan should be DPOTY but otherwise I agree, especially with Harden winning MVP over Curry.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Apr 17, 2015 22:02:41 GMT
MVP: Curry, ROY: Noel, DPOY: Green, COY: Kerr.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 18, 2015 8:32:13 GMT
MVP - Steph Curry (GSW) The Warriors have dominated the regular season so much, GSW would not be anywhere near where they are without Steph. Harden's a very, very, very close second. In fact it might as well be 50/50.
DPOY - DeAndre Jordan (LAC) The Clippers will lose in the first round to Kawhi's Spurs, so it seems to be a consolation prize for DeAndre to win DPOY, he played every game this year at least, Kawhi only played 60-ish.
Coach - Mike Budenholzer (ATL) On paper the Hawks are mediocre and Budenholzer's turned them into a powerhouse.
MIP - Anthony Davis (NOP)
ROY - Andrew Wiggins (MIN) I would be disappointed if this award went to Noel.
6Man - no idea
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Apr 18, 2015 12:03:07 GMT
Who do you guys have for the end of season awards? Here are my picks: MVP - James Harden (HOU) He's more valuable to his team than Curry, the Rockets wouldn't even make the playoffs without Harden. DPOY - Kawhi Leonard (SAS) It's not really clear who should win this year, imo Kawhi deserves it more than Green/Gobert/Whoever. Coach - Steve Kerr (GSW) They went from 51 wins to 67 wins with basically the same roster. It could also go to Budenholzer for the Hawks. MIP - Jimmy Butler (CHI) Unlike most years Butler didn't just put up big numbers from an increase in playing time, he played the same amount last year and still improved a ton in pretty much every way. ROY - Andrew Wiggins (MIN) Obviously. Noel and Mirotic were alright, but Wiggins won this in like January. 6Man - Lou Williams (TOR) Lou gets buckets. He doesn't do much else, but he's still single-handedly won games for the Raptors. All-NBA First Team: Stephen Curry Russell Westbrook James Harden LeBron James Anthony Davis All-Defensive First Team: Tony Allen Draymond Green Kawhi Leonard Anthony Davis Rudy Gobert agree except, the 6th man will be IT3. I strongly believe he is the biggest reason of the Boston surge.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 19, 2015 1:26:45 GMT
Who do you guys have for the end of season awards? Here are my picks: MVP - James Harden (HOU) He's more valuable to his team than Curry, the Rockets wouldn't even make the playoffs without Harden. Not actually disagreeing with this but the West is so tough I'm not sure that the Warriors would make the playoffs without Curry either. I mean Klay has been awesome this year, sure, and Dray has that D and all-around solid game but I don't see them as a playoff team w/o Curry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 6:59:23 GMT
Who do you guys have for the end of season awards? Here are my picks: MVP - James Harden (HOU) He's more valuable to his team than Curry, the Rockets wouldn't even make the playoffs without Harden. Not actually disagreeing with this but the West is so tough I'm not sure that the Warriors would make the playoffs without Curry either. I mean Klay has been awesome this year, sure, and Dray has that D and all-around solid game but I don't see them as a playoff team w/o Curry. Maybe so, but they are much better than the Rockets without Harden.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 19, 2015 8:42:19 GMT
I think Harden should win the MVP.
Think Dray should be the DPOTY. MIP is Jimmy Gets Buckets. Coach should probably be Budenholzer, but I can see Kerr winning it.
Should be a fun playoffs to watch.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 19, 2015 9:19:35 GMT
Who do you guys have for the end of season awards? Here are my picks: MVP - James Harden (HOU) He's more valuable to his team than Curry, the Rockets wouldn't even make the playoffs without Harden. Not actually disagreeing with this but the West is so tough I'm not sure that the Warriors would make the playoffs without Curry either. I mean Klay has been awesome this year, sure, and Dray has that D and all-around solid game but I don't see them as a playoff team w/o Curry. This is why I think Curry's the MVP. It's not like his supporting cast is stellar. He got 67 wins and I don't think Klay Thompson is anywhere near as good as Scottie Pippen, if we're talking sidekicks. Harden is amazing, but I feel like Curry is one tier above everyone else this year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 14:51:54 GMT
League announces Budenholzer wins COY. Kerr in 2nd, Kidd in 3rd.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 21, 2015 17:49:29 GMT
MVP - Joe Johnson (BKN)
DPOY - Brook Lopez (BKN)
Coach - Lionel Hollins (BKN)
MIP - Deron Williams (BKN)
ROY - Bojan Bogdanovic (BKN)
6Man - Jarrett Jack (BKN)
All-NBA First Team: Deron Williams Bojan Bogdanovic Joe Johnson Thaddeus Young Brook Lopez
All-Defensive First Team: Deron Williams Bojan Bogdanovic Joe Johnson Thaddeus Young Brook Lopez
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 22, 2015 3:16:38 GMT
MVP - Joe Johnson (BKN) DPOY - Brook Lopez (BKN) Coach - Lionel Hollins (BKN) MIP - Deron Williams (BKN) ROY - Bojan Bogdanovic (BKN) 6Man - Jarrett Jack (BKN) All-NBA First Team: Deron Williams Bojan Bogdanovic Joe Johnson Thaddeus Young Brook Lopez All-Defensive First Team: Deron Williams Bojan Bogdanovic Joe Johnson Thaddeus Young Brook Lopez Y'all think Barber is kidding. He's not
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 3:23:10 GMT
Not actually disagreeing with this but the West is so tough I'm not sure that the Warriors would make the playoffs without Curry either. I mean Klay has been awesome this year, sure, and Dray has that D and all-around solid game but I don't see them as a playoff team w/o Curry. This is why I think Curry's the MVP. It's not like his supporting cast is stellar. He got 67 wins and I don't think Klay Thompson is anywhere near as good as Scottie Pippen, if we're talking sidekicks. Harden is amazing, but I feel like Curry is one tier above everyone else this year. Klay Thompson is better than Ariza.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 22, 2015 19:12:29 GMT
This is why I think Curry's the MVP. It's not like his supporting cast is stellar. He got 67 wins and I don't think Klay Thompson is anywhere near as good as Scottie Pippen, if we're talking sidekicks. Harden is amazing, but I feel like Curry is one tier above everyone else this year. Klay Thompson is better than Ariza. Don't really want to get into the whole thing but Dwight / Ariza / Terrence Jones / Josh Smith plus some veteran help from Terry / Prigioni / Brewer and decent younger guy in Motie (And Pat Beverley) vs Klay / Draymond / Bogut / Harrison Barnes plus some veteran help from Livingston / Iggy / David Lee and decent younger guy in Speights So, which team wins a 7-game series if you take away Harden/ Curry? Dwight TJones / Motie Josh Smith Ariza / Brewer Terry / Prigs / (Beverley) vs Bogut / Lee Draymond / Speights Barnes / Iggy Klay Livingston Klay is the most gifted offensively but I'm not all that convinced that the Warriors have a better supporting cast overall. But maybe I'm just high on guys like Jones/Ariza/Prigs and what Josh Smith has been in Houston.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 19:22:35 GMT
To be honest I'd take the GSW in a series without Curry and Harden.
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Post by James Kay on Apr 22, 2015 19:33:28 GMT
Klay Thompson is better than Ariza. Don't really want to get into the whole thing but Dwight / Ariza / Terrence Jones / Josh Smith plus some veteran help from Terry / Prigioni / Brewer and decent younger guy in Motie (And Pat Beverley) vs Klay / Draymond / Bogut / Harrison Barnes plus some veteran help from Livingston / Iggy / David Lee and decent younger guy in Speights So, which team wins a 7-game series if you take away Harden/ Curry? Dwight TJones / Motie Josh Smith Ariza / Brewer Terry / Prigs / (Beverley) vs Bogut / Lee Draymond / Speights Barnes / Iggy Klay Livingston Klay is the most gifted offensively but I'm not all that convinced that the Warriors have a better supporting cast overall. But maybe I'm just high on guys like Jones/Ariza/Prigs and what Josh Smith has been in Houston. Also not really entering this argument but worth noting Howard and TJones have been injured a TON this year
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 22, 2015 19:43:51 GMT
Yea I'm truly not saying I favor one over the other, my point is exactly that though. I'm not sure one is better than the other, overall, in any significant way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 3:20:56 GMT
Klay Thompson is better than Ariza. Don't really want to get into the whole thing but Dwight / Ariza / Terrence Jones / Josh Smith plus some veteran help from Terry / Prigioni / Brewer and decent younger guy in Motie (And Pat Beverley) vs Klay / Draymond / Bogut / Harrison Barnes plus some veteran help from Livingston / Iggy / David Lee and decent younger guy in Speights So, which team wins a 7-game series if you take away Harden/ Curry? Dwight TJones / Motie Josh Smith Ariza / Brewer Terry / Prigs / (Beverley) vs Bogut / Lee Draymond / Speights Barnes / Iggy Klay Livingston Klay is the most gifted offensively but I'm not all that convinced that the Warriors have a better supporting cast overall. But maybe I'm just high on guys like Jones/Ariza/Prigs and what Josh Smith has been in Houston. The Rockets didn't have Howard most of the year.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 23, 2015 17:25:44 GMT
Don't really want to get into the whole thing but Dwight / Ariza / Terrence Jones / Josh Smith plus some veteran help from Terry / Prigioni / Brewer and decent younger guy in Motie (And Pat Beverley) vs Klay / Draymond / Bogut / Harrison Barnes plus some veteran help from Livingston / Iggy / David Lee and decent younger guy in Speights So, which team wins a 7-game series if you take away Harden/ Curry? Dwight TJones / Motie Josh Smith Ariza / Brewer Terry / Prigs / (Beverley) vs Bogut / Lee Draymond / Speights Barnes / Iggy Klay Livingston Klay is the most gifted offensively but I'm not all that convinced that the Warriors have a better supporting cast overall. But maybe I'm just high on guys like Jones/Ariza/Prigs and what Josh Smith has been in Houston. The Rockets didn't have Howard most of the year. Fair enough. 41 games for DHo this season. Jones missed a lot of time too. As I said, I'm not taking anything away from Harden, I'm just unconvinced Steph has a way better team around him. Maybe I personally like it better but I do like what the Rockets have too. And, the Warriors won 11 more games than the Rockets so that would lend itself to their casts maybe being close to even, with Steph and James pretty similar in overall value. Different players, both amazing, I just didn't think the "Steph's team is better" argument held all that much water. The injuries to James' team (don't discount David Lee only played in 49, Bogut 67, etc everyone has injuries) probably account for that 11 win difference, or close to it.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 23, 2015 23:20:07 GMT
Kawhi Leonard DPOY!
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Apr 24, 2015 0:15:23 GMT
He deserves it. Right now he is the only player in the NBA that can dominate a game through defense.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Apr 24, 2015 0:18:32 GMT
Someone gave a vote to Whiteside for DPOY.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Apr 24, 2015 2:41:28 GMT
Someone gave a vote to Whiteside for DPOY. Gobert was 5th, it's all good.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Apr 24, 2015 3:16:43 GMT
Yes but Gobert is a good defender. Whiteside is decent once in a while. He let Ajinca scored 24 (9-10 fg) on him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 3:35:27 GMT
Yes but Gobert is a good defender. Whiteside is decent once in a while. He let Ajinca scored 24 (9-10 fg) on him. Shut the hell up about bashing whiteside. He's a fucking great defender. Ajinca is going to sign somewhere else this offseason and is a great scorer. He just cant control his fucking freak body and gets like 6 fouls every 20 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 3:39:05 GMT
To be clear, I do think Gobert is a better defensive player, but whiteside is a better offensive player, and has a higher ceiling. Whiteside can make shots that gobert will never be able to make in his entire career.
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