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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 2:02:42 GMT
stopping such a fucking asshole. do you know what a logical fallacy is? Because your posts are ridden with them including this one. maybe attack the argument sometimes instead of the person who posted and people will maybe start listening to the shit you say. Exactly who I was speaking to. If you want to run your mouth about what I say then be able to take my comments without letting it hurt your precious feelings. I don't want to scare away a bunch of newbies That might disappear a few months from now anyhow. If you stay past that..maybe just maybe ill respect you somewhat. But not until then! Thanks for being a dick first and a friend later. Thats the way adults are supposed to act, right? Jesus man, stop being such an asshole to people for no reason. Points and suggestions are points and suggestions, thinking that the mouth they come from is more important than the point made is logic 101 fail. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 2:12:14 GMT
Exactly who I was speaking to. If you want to run your mouth about what I say then be able to take my comments without letting it hurt your precious feelings. I don't want to scare away a bunch of newbies That might disappear a few months from now anyhow. If you stay past that..maybe just maybe ill respect you somewhat. But not until then! Thanks for being a dick first and a friend later. Thats the way adults are supposed to act, right? Jesus man, stop being such an asshole to people for no reason. Points and suggestions are points and suggestions, thinking that the mouth they come from is more important than the point made is logic 101 fail. Why am I this way? Because you guys join the league and don't understand things or see things like some of us vets do that have been here from the get go. You didn't get have to deal with the league and the changes up to now. I just hate it when I get a comment back making no sense at all to me..agreeing with other decisions..acting like you know what the he'll is going on. Sometimes CMs use personal opinion here way to much. That's all I was saying. I'm not a CM but I commented. Neither of you are. But I commented and you guys want to argue with me..be ready for a few words from my mouth. Good or bad..right or wrong. That's how I feel... |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 23, 2015 2:19:52 GMT
JR just sitting on his porch with a shotgun yelling at these young bloods to get off his lawn
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 2:28:45 GMT
Thanks for being a dick first and a friend later. Thats the way adults are supposed to act, right? Jesus man, stop being such an asshole to people for no reason. Points and suggestions are points and suggestions, thinking that the mouth they come from is more important than the point made is logic 101 fail. Why am I this way? Because you guys join the league and don't understand things or see things like some of us vets do that have been here from the get go. You didn't get have to deal with the league and the changes up to now. I just hate it when I get a comment back making no sense at all to me..agreeing with other decisions..acting like you know what the he'll is going on. Sometimes CMs use personal opinion here way to much. That's all I was saying. I'm not a CM but I commented. Neither of you are. But I commented and you guys want to argue with me..be ready for a few words from my mouth. Good or bad..right or wrong. That's how I feel... I don't have a problem with you commenting I have a problem with you thinking that you're fucking special and you can comment on shit and other people can't just because you've been here longer. I have a problem with you thinking that your opinions are better than ours just because you've been here longer. experience does help but a lot of times being able to see things objectively is good. What's wrong with me saying that I agree or disagree with the trade it's a post in the thread if you don't like it you can scroll past it. And you can disagree with what I say that's fine but you can't tell me not to post you can't tell me that my opinions are invalid. While yours are somehow to be revered. just get off your god damn high horse we're all adults well most of us we can discuss things without having to put the other people down all the time. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 23, 2015 2:33:28 GMT
Thanks for being a dick first and a friend later. Thats the way adults are supposed to act, right? Jesus man, stop being such an asshole to people for no reason. Points and suggestions are points and suggestions, thinking that the mouth they come from is more important than the point made is logic 101 fail. Why am I this way? Because you guys join the league and don't understand things or see things like some of us vets do that have been here from the get go. You didn't get have to deal with the league and the changes up to now. I just hate it when I get a comment back making no sense at all to me..agreeing with other decisions..acting like you know what the he'll is going on. Sometimes CMs use personal opinion here way to much. That's all I was saying. I'm not a CM but I commented. Neither of you are. But I commented and you guys want to argue with me..be ready for a few words from my mouth. Good or bad..right or wrong. That's how I feel... We do not want to argue with you. I first comment on your argument, and I believe I did it as respectful as possible, then suddenly instead of commenting back at my argument, you begun to "shout" at us, the new ones. If you dont one your opinions to be commented, then don't post anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 2:39:50 GMT
Why am I this way? Because you guys join the league and don't understand things or see things like some of us vets do that have been here from the get go. You didn't get have to deal with the league and the changes up to now. I just hate it when I get a comment back making no sense at all to me..agreeing with other decisions..acting like you know what the he'll is going on. Sometimes CMs use personal opinion here way to much. That's all I was saying. I'm not a CM but I commented. Neither of you are. But I commented and you guys want to argue with me..be ready for a few words from my mouth. Good or bad..right or wrong. That's how I feel... I don't have a problem with you commenting I have a problem with you thinking that you're fucking special and you can comment on shit and other people can't just because you've been here longer. I have a problem with you thinking that your opinions are better than ours just because you've been here longer. experience does help but a lot of times being able to see things objectively is good. What's wrong with me saying that I agree or disagree with the trade it's a post in the thread if you don't like it you can scroll past it. And you can disagree with what I say that's fine but you can't tell me not to post you can't tell me that my opinions are invalid. While yours are somehow to be revered. just get off your god damn high horse we're all adults well most of us we can discuss things without having to put the other people down all the time. Its an overall issue with what you do and say. Your Whiteside million posts...your liking someone else being a smartass against me. A comment you have made about something. You can comment on what you like...really I don't care. But if you think I'm going to take a joke or a funny comment about my team or my players or myself...I remember that when commenting on future comments. So be ready to hear my mouth. If you knew me face to face you would know I'm a nice guy. But when I spend half my boring life at this league..and I get screwed or don't agree..I'm going to speak my opinion. Because that's what I feel I deserve after all these years. And being screwed over a FEW Times!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 2:42:28 GMT
I don't have a problem with you commenting I have a problem with you thinking that you're fucking special and you can comment on shit and other people can't just because you've been here longer. I have a problem with you thinking that your opinions are better than ours just because you've been here longer. experience does help but a lot of times being able to see things objectively is good. What's wrong with me saying that I agree or disagree with the trade it's a post in the thread if you don't like it you can scroll past it. And you can disagree with what I say that's fine but you can't tell me not to post you can't tell me that my opinions are invalid. While yours are somehow to be revered. just get off your god damn high horse we're all adults well most of us we can discuss things without having to put the other people down all the time. Its an overall issue with what you do and say. Your Whiteside million posts...your liking someone else being a smartass against me. A comment you have made about something. You can comment on what you like...really I don't care. But if you think I'm going to take a joke or a funny comment about my team or my players or myself...I remember that when commenting on future comments. So be ready to hear my mouth. If you knew me face to face you would know I'm a nice guy. But when I spend half my boring life at this league..and I get screwed or don't agree..I'm going to speak my opinion. Because that's what I feel I deserve after all these years. And being screwed over a FEW Times!! Alright. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 23, 2015 13:51:47 GMT
We're at 2 accepts, 2 rejects from the Trade Committee, so according to the rules:
All GMs may give their accept/reject and please give some reasoning. Open season ends at 13:50 GMT tomorrow (Tuesday 24th Feb)!
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Post by Magic Johnson on Feb 23, 2015 14:05:19 GMT
Accept. I do not understand why Vlade is choosing to take this route but maybe he has something bigger planned such as trading his pick and getting another talented player by using his expiring or other contracts.
But I believe Vlade has a specific strategy whether it's to tank or whether it is to accumulate the DP as assets and maybe turn it into a blockbuster trade around trade deadline.
FOR BOS I think he could have gotten more value easily if he opted to go for another route with this trade but he is choosing the sam hinke route as he already has 500 first round picks this year.
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Post by Larry Bird on Feb 23, 2015 14:17:03 GMT
I am voting to accept this trade.
Sacramento has shown interest in tanking. However, that may be hard with Lillard, Westbrook, and Gasol.
Both Gasol and Lillard are STEADY All-Stars, consistently putting up good numbers.
Westbrook has been BUSTING OUT lately. So, those 3 will not allow him to tank.
With this trade, he regains control of his own pick. This enables him to take the team in the direction he wants.
Boston gets 3 picks that will be in the 20-30 range. Not that great, but you can always find some gems in that area.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 23, 2015 14:22:17 GMT
accept same reason as larry
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 23, 2015 14:23:04 GMT
Reject. When are people gonna learn that Ian doesn't trade picks unless he is absolutely wrecking you
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Post by Ghazny Dimalen on Feb 23, 2015 14:23:53 GMT
I also accept..
The things was clarified me when sir blade explain the situation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 14:24:20 GMT
reject. i dont think vlade knows what tanking is. it is impossible with his roster. pick 14 for 3 20s? lol.
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Feb 23, 2015 14:32:41 GMT
Reject. Not all Top Picks is going to be a Superstar. ^^
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:21:34 GMT
reject. i dont think vlade knows what tanking is. it is impossible with his roster. pick 14 for 3 20s? lol. Then explain to me how I am 19 and 15 if I am so damn good!?!?!?!? If I make the other players really crappy then my team don't play that well....not that they are playing well now. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:22:26 GMT
Reject.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Feb 23, 2015 15:32:08 GMT
I don't get this for Vlade, if he's gonna tank and he has Marc to resign, that 2016 1st very well may be better than his 2015 first alone, without the other picks. The 2018 is hard to judge if not impossible, but it's going with the 2016 1st and two other picks. If he wasn't trying to tank, but to save a season I'd get it more , but idk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 16:25:42 GMT
I don't get this for Vlade, if he's gonna tank and he has Marc to resign, that 2016 1st very well may be better than his 2015 first alone, without the other picks. The 2018 is hard to judge if not impossible, but it's going with the 2016 1st and two other picks. If he wasn't trying to tank, but to save a season I'd get it more , but idk. I've never considered for one second that Marc Gasol would leave Sacramento. If he does, I plan to come after that PA because I've done NOTHING but be loyal to him. Part of trading Danny Green was to ensure that Marc got the money he so richly deserves. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 23, 2015 16:27:43 GMT
I don't think a 30 year old Marc Gasol re-signs with a tanking team. Just my opinion though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 16:33:16 GMT
I don't get this for Vlade, if he's gonna tank and he has Marc to resign, that 2016 1st very well may be better than his 2015 first alone, without the other picks. The 2018 is hard to judge if not impossible, but it's going with the 2016 1st and two other picks. If he wasn't trying to tank, but to save a season I'd get it more , but idk. I've never considered for one second that Marc Gasol would leave Sacramento. If he does, I plan to come after that PA because I've done NOTHING but be loyal to him. Part of trading Danny Green was to ensure that Marc got the money he so richly deserves. Money talks. Ask Bosh, Carmelo...any NBA player not near the end of their career. He's leaving. I've talked to several GMs who are going after him and his game. SAC isn't the most attractive playing spot. You do have two other players but Nothing else but hope. PAs are not always trustworthy. Don't count on anything unless you def can get a lottery pick. Do you really think you will get a good pick to make Mark want to stay? If you Can it would work out great and then add FAs... Gl.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 16:49:45 GMT
I've never considered for one second that Marc Gasol would leave Sacramento. If he does, I plan to come after that PA because I've done NOTHING but be loyal to him. Part of trading Danny Green was to ensure that Marc got the money he so richly deserves. Money talks. Ask Bosh, Carmelo...any NBA player not near the end of their career. He's leaving. I've talked to several GMs who are going after him and his game. SAC isn't the most attractive playing spot. You do have two other players but Nothing else but hope. PAs are not always trustworthy. Don't count on anything unless you def can get a lottery pick. Do you really think you will get a good pick to make Mark want to stay? If you Can it would work out great and then add FAs... Gl.... Why would Marc want to leave? He's obviously not a big-market guy since he plays for Memphis in real life. Other than that, he's been here two years, we made the playoffs last year, and my roster will only get better. I want people to vote on this trade using their own logic, but seriously I've never considered that Marc Gasol would walk on me. |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Feb 23, 2015 17:13:49 GMT
I don't think a 30 year old Marc Gasol re-signs with a tanking team. Just my opinion though This was my thinking. I'm not saying I don't think you can resign him, Vlade, I just think it'll be harder if you start tanking and if you don't the pick will be more valuable than the one you get back.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 17:23:09 GMT
Who the fucking is Gasol's agent? I am about tired of people taking my plans out of context.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 23, 2015 17:54:53 GMT
Gasol to Brooklyn confirmed
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Feb 23, 2015 17:57:02 GMT
Reject. When are people gonna learn that Ian doesn't trade picks unless he is absolutely wrecking you more like trades lol |
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Feb 23, 2015 18:01:04 GMT
My 2 cents...
Every move I have made in this league for the past couple of seasons has been with resigning Blake last season and resigning Melo, Jordan and Parker this off season. Each and every move. Period.
The player agents can only go off of how you have run your franchise in the past when making decisions.
I like Vlade and this is certainly not personal for me but I do not believe Blake would have resigned with me last year if I had been tanking. I just lost Melo for the season and could easily mail it in but what message would that send to my upcoming free agents? I have done, and am still doing everything possible to let everyone know that we are trying to win every game this year. Every year, a championship is our goal.
Tanking clearly sends the wrong message in my opinion.
With all of that being said, I would vote to accept the trade.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Feb 23, 2015 18:30:31 GMT
Accept. It's not my responsibility to know what every GM's plans are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 18:36:53 GMT
My 2 cents... Every move I have made in this league for the past couple of seasons has been with resigning Blake last season and resigning Melo, Jordan and Parker this off season. Each and every move. Period. : The player agents can only go off of how you have run your franchise in the past when making decisions. I like Vlade and this is certainly not personal for me but I do not believe Blake would have resigned with me last year if I had been tanking. I just lost Melo for the season and could easily mail it in but what message would that send to my upcoming free agents? I have done, and am still doing everything possible to let everyone know that we are trying to win every game this year. Every year, a championship is our goal. Tanking clearly sends the wrong message in my opinion. With all of that being said, I would vote to accept the trade. You tricked me...as I was reading I swore you were rejecting. Good points though. Looks like the trade will pass. We will see. Nice defense for our conference.. Lmao |
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Post by James Kay on Feb 23, 2015 18:37:26 GMT
accept.
I don't agree with the move and I think this weakens SACs offseason plans to retain Gasol and also gives up too much for a middle of the pack pick but this is not my decision to make. GMs should be able to make decisions like this or nothing exciting will happen in this league. Vlade has a long history with this team and deserves to be able to make decisions for his team.
Sorry guys, I don't see how this is rejectable. All picks no players let the GM do what he wants. Ian isn't going to get that much better just because he gets a few 20-30 range draft picks over the next few years.
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