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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 15:52:02 GMT
Current Rating: 79
Suggested Rating: --
Im not getting into details of how he has done or what improvements he has made or stats. I will leave that up to the league. I will put my rating in after getting more thoughts and opionions. Just trying to get my team ratings updated for the upcoming season so I do not have to have issues midseason once again.
Please rate fairly..
Thanks SA GM
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 15:53:44 GMT
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 28, 2014 15:55:30 GMT
75
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 28, 2014 17:02:29 GMT
77 he gets 5.6 apg but that's really the only positive thing. 39 percent from the field is awful and I'm being generous really given his terrible defense. 76
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 28, 2014 17:02:50 GMT
Meant to say 76 in beginning typo
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on May 28, 2014 19:59:05 GMT
76
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 28, 2014 21:41:42 GMT
74 career lows in a lot of stats.
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Post by James Kay on May 28, 2014 22:04:31 GMT
Listen, I hate Felton as much as the next Knicks fan, but he deserves at least a 76.
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 28, 2014 23:13:59 GMT
Oladipo is 13-4-4 and 1.6 steals on ~42% shooting, rated a 76, could maybe use an increase, maybe not. But that is not the point.
Felton is ~10-5.6-3 with 1.2 steals per game and 39.5%. No way is Felton a 79.
I put him one less than Dipo, because he isn't better than Dipo. 75
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on May 28, 2014 23:17:29 GMT
74
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 23:54:35 GMT
Oladipo is 13-4-4 and 1.6 steals on ~42% shooting, rated a 76, could maybe use an increase, maybe not. But that is not the point. Felton is ~10-5.6-3 with 1.2 steals per game and 39.5%. No way is Felton a 79. I put him one less than Dipo, because he isn't better than Dipo. 75 How is he better? Younger yes! But he's played one season. Felton is proven. Yet he is getting older. I guess that's why he's not as good. I just don't think we can judge them off each other. I think we need more than one season of Dipo Before we can say he's better. Actually if age has anything to do with it... How well do you see Dipo being after 8 years? If you want to compare for ratings based off that then let's wait until next season. Dipos 2nd and Felton fresh maybe with a new team.
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 28, 2014 23:58:50 GMT
Oladipo is 13-4-4 and 1.6 steals on ~42% shooting, rated a 76, could maybe use an increase, maybe not. But that is not the point. Felton is ~10-5.6-3 with 1.2 steals per game and 39.5%. No way is Felton a 79. I put him one less than Dipo, because he isn't better than Dipo. 75 How is he better? Younger yes! But he's played one season. Felton is proven. Yet he is getting older. I guess that's why he's not as good. I just don't think we can judge them off each other. I think we need more than one season of Dipo Before we can say he's better. Actually if age has anything to do with it... How well do you see Dipo being after 8 years? If you want to compare for ratings based off that then let's wait until next season. Dipos 2nd and Felton fresh maybe with a new team. Past performance is no indication of future production. I am not comparing Dipo in 8 years to Felton in his 8th season or whatever. I am comparing them now. Dipo had much better stats. This bullshit about being older or younger is dumb. Ratings should be what they are currently. And, currently, Dipo put up better numbers. But not WAY better numbers. So I rated Felton one point less than Dipo. Plain and simple. Who cares what Felton was, it is who he is now. And now, he isn't worthy of a starting role at the PG position. He isn't in the top 30 PGs in the league. And in 8 years, I expect Dipo to have 3 All-Star appearances underneath his belt and the Magic to be a contender in the Eastern Conference.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 0:28:48 GMT
How is he better? Younger yes! But he's played one season. Felton is proven. Yet he is getting older. I guess that's why he's not as good. I just don't think we can judge them off each other. I think we need more than one season of Dipo Before we can say he's better. Actually if age has anything to do with it... How well do you see Dipo being after 8 years? If you want to compare for ratings based off that then let's wait until next season. Dipos 2nd and Felton fresh maybe with a new team. Past performance is no indication of future production. I am not comparing Dipo in 8 years to Felton in his 8th season or whatever. I am comparing them now. Dipo had much better stats. This bullshit about being older or younger is dumb. Ratings should be what they are currently. And, currently, Dipo put up better numbers. But not WAY better numbers. So I rated Felton one point less than Dipo. Plain and simple. Who cares what Felton was, it is who he is now. And now, he isn't worthy of a starting role at the PG position. He isn't in the top 30 PGs in the league. And in 8 years, I expect Dipo to have 3 All-Star appearances underneath his belt and the Magic to be a contender in the Eastern Conference. Did you see my suggested rating. I had none. Just wanting to get my players ratings ready for next season. Although I understand ratings based off current performance.. Last season was Feltons worst. Playing on the Knicks didn't help. He can pass with the best of them. He will be a solid backup. Phil already stated he will trade Felton. I just say we don't judge decreases off of one season. There are too many factors. Its just a waste of time changing ratings all the time. Next season will define if he needs a decrease. Those players needing an increase should be eligible much sooner. I hate going back to injured players, but why don't we decrease players such as Rose. Well ian changed the rule to fix my problem with this so nevermind. But being on the Knicks and often being injured this season may be why we are talking about a decrease for Raymond. I don't see him as being done. If he gets traded and keeps the weight off...I think he could really be something special off the bench for a team. And yes Dipo is young and played well but that is on a rebuilding team. Not one suppose to be contending. He wouldn't start for one of the teams left in the playoffs now would he. Just saying. BTW I agree on the rating... For now. Just want my players updated. Let's just not decrease players too soon.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 29, 2014 0:55:14 GMT
What the hell are we supposed to decrease them based off of if an entire season isn't enough?
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 29, 2014 0:59:36 GMT
I kind of agree on both sides of the last couple posts. It can really almost never be just about this season or just about a vet having a lot of seasons and ignoring this one bad season. It's gotta be a case-by-case thing. That's why we have these individual threads so we can assess each player on their own merit and their own circumstances.
Anyway, 79 is definitely too high, I think we drop him a couple points (77), and if he stays on a downward trend, we drop him again next year. But if he improves a bit then maybe he just stays at 77 or maybe he even goes up, and we didn't drop him too far based on one season that was terrible for that whole team.
77 for me, next year is a big one for him.
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 29, 2014 1:00:56 GMT
What the hell are we supposed to decrease them based off of if an entire season isn't enough? I think it's enough to decrease a player, certainly, but we shouldn't just ignore the past either, my personal view. He should absolutely get a decrease, but maybe not quite as far as a couple people are suggesting. Take him down 2, maybe 3 points, and if he's bad again next year he gets more of a decrease. If he rebounds, maybe where we took him down to is good enough, or maybe he even gets a minor boost.
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 29, 2014 1:18:04 GMT
Past performance is no indication of future production. I am not comparing Dipo in 8 years to Felton in his 8th season or whatever. I am comparing them now. Dipo had much better stats. This bullshit about being older or younger is dumb. Ratings should be what they are currently. And, currently, Dipo put up better numbers. But not WAY better numbers. So I rated Felton one point less than Dipo. Plain and simple. Who cares what Felton was, it is who he is now. And now, he isn't worthy of a starting role at the PG position. He isn't in the top 30 PGs in the league. And in 8 years, I expect Dipo to have 3 All-Star appearances underneath his belt and the Magic to be a contender in the Eastern Conference. Did you see my suggested rating. I had none. Just wanting to get my players ratings ready for next season. Although I understand ratings based off current performance.. Last season was Feltons worst. Playing on the Knicks didn't help. He can pass with the best of them. He will be a solid backup. Phil already stated he will trade Felton. I just say we don't judge decreases off of one season. There are too many factors. Its just a waste of time changing ratings all the time. Next season will define if he needs a decrease. Those players needing an increase should be eligible much sooner. I hate going back to injured players, but why don't we decrease players such as Rose. Well ian changed the rule to fix my problem with this so nevermind. But being on the Knicks and often being injured this season may be why we are talking about a decrease for Raymond. I don't see him as being done. If he gets traded and keeps the weight off...I think he could really be something special off the bench for a team. And yes Dipo is young and played well but that is on a rebuilding team. Not one suppose to be contending. He wouldn't start for one of the teams left in the playoffs now would he. Just saying. BTW I agree on the rating... For now. Just want my players updated. Let's just not decrease players too soon. You had no suggested rating and are complaining of the rating I gave. Nest time you post a player in a stock watch you should probably suggest a rating and provide a solid argument as to why you think the player is deserving of such. The vast majority of GMs give an argument, and almost everyone gives a suggested rating. Pretty sure a lot of teams would rather have Dipo as their 2 guard, let's take a look: Grizzlies started Courtney Lee and had him play 35 minutes a game, I'll leave Korver and the Hawks out even though Korver is so one dimensional, Chicago had Butler playing the 2 with Dunleavy at the 3, and CHA had Gerald Anderson. Dipo also played out of position a lot on the Magic, he is not a PG, but, at times, he had to be the primary ball handler. I never said Felton is done. He just isn't a top 30 PG, and his stats this season were less than Dipo's. Dipo is rated lower, so I rated Felton one point lower than Dipo. It is pretty simple logic. If we aren't going to raise players and lower players based off of a season, then why even bother with this? Why does a player get the benefit of the doubt? While others don't? And that shot at Rose was just fucking dumb. Keep trading picks and acquiring role players.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 4:18:16 GMT
You talk a lot. I didn't even complain about your suggestio. Of course you just like to say shit. I don't have to suggest a rating either. I just want to know my ratings for next season. So I don't have issues. Grow up kid!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 29, 2014 4:23:55 GMT
Then why even bring it up if you don't have an opinion?
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 29, 2014 4:49:26 GMT
You talk a lot. I didn't even complain about your suggestio. Of course you just like to say shit. I don't have to suggest a rating either. I just want to know my ratings for next season. So I don't have issues. Grow up kid! Why do your rating matter right now? You're just going to trade your team away. Yeah, I talk a lot. Because I have an opinion and like to articulate it properly. You don't have to suggest a rating, but 95% of the others do. You don't want to suggest a rating or provide information on the player and form an argument for your case, why should we bother to rate them if you do no work? I'm not a kid. I don't need to grow up. I can say anything I please on here. Felton is not a 79 and the only reason in the world that he shouldn't be a 75 or below is because he has played 9 seasons. Which is completely bogus to me. I feel that a player's rating should be based off of their performance during the current season or most recent. Whether the player is a veteran or not. If a player sucks, he sucks. You put lip stick on a pig, its still a pig. Felton is a 75 in my book. Fuck this benefit of the doubt shit.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on May 29, 2014 4:49:57 GMT
How about we all go bitch to each other about Shane Battier's rating next
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 5:07:20 GMT
I did my job. I'm done messaging about it.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 29, 2014 13:05:52 GMT
I did my job. I'm done messaging about it. You did nothing.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on May 29, 2014 14:12:11 GMT
I'll give him a 76 though
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