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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 23, 2014 19:56:06 GMT
The Utah Jazz release Lance Stephenson. Phase 2 is the Kansas City Shuffle. Everyone looks one way, and you go the other. There's a lot of teams with the cap space to sign Lance this offseason. But there's only a few right now.  |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 23, 2014 19:59:18 GMT
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Post by Larry Bird on Apr 23, 2014 20:04:12 GMT
About half the league is under the cap.
Can you resign someone you just released?
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Apr 23, 2014 20:10:05 GMT
Send offers for Lance, as i am the SG player agent.
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Post by Larry Bird on Apr 23, 2014 20:14:00 GMT
This may cause other GMs to look at doing things like this.
If they can position themselves correctly.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 23, 2014 20:25:47 GMT
Not sure how I feel about this kind of tactic, but I'm really impressed with how Josh thought of doing it.
How much cap space do I have? $17m? Time to use it, muahahhahaah
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 20:36:36 GMT
Personally, I feel like Stephenson's agent should like the devotion shown by the Jazz. Nice move Barber!
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Post by Alex English on Apr 23, 2014 20:58:41 GMT
I don't see how it's devotion. He's trying to rig the market in his favour. Trading for Lance and keeping him, then offering a big contract in the off-season is devotion. This is the Utah Jazz organization trying to remove as much decision making power from Lance Stephenson as possible. Lance should be insulted that they are attempting to remove his ability to choose the best option for himself. If a team has to resort to dirty tricks like this in order to feel that they have a shot at signing Lance then what does that say about the ability of that organization to build a winning basketball team?
The answer for Lance is clear in this case. He should sign with the Denver Nuggets. We offer him the chance to be part of a dynasty. He can waste the prime of his career being forgotten on a bottom feeder team in Salt Lake City or he can join one of the best teams in the league.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 23, 2014 21:17:39 GMT
I don't see how it's devotion. He's trying to rig the market in his favour. Trading for Lance and keeping him, then offering a big contract in the off-season is devotion. This is the Utah Jazz organization trying to remove as much decision making power from Lance Stephenson as possible. Lance should be insulted that they are attempting to remove his ability to choose the best option for himself. If a team has to resort to dirty tricks like this in order to feel that they have a shot at signing Lance then what does that say about the ability of that organization to build a winning basketball team? The answer for Lance is clear in this case. He should sign with the Denver Nuggets. We offer him the chance to be part of a dynasty. He can waste the prime of his career being forgotten on a bottom feeder team in Salt Lake City or he can join one of the best teams in the league. I follow the Sun Tzu Art of War: "subdue the enemy without fighting." A thousand victories await my favor, Mr. English. |
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Post by Alex English on Apr 23, 2014 21:41:10 GMT
I follow the Sun Tzu Art of War: "subdue the enemy without fighting." A thousand victories await my favor, Mr. English. Sun Tzu also said: "One may know how to conquer without being able to do it." You may have read a book or two but your roster shows your lack of practical ability. My roster is evidence of my inevitable victory. Bring it on Barber! |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 23, 2014 22:11:47 GMT
I follow the Sun Tzu Art of War: "subdue the enemy without fighting." A thousand victories await my favor, Mr. English. Sun Tzu also said: "One may know how to conquer without being able to do it." You may have read a book or two but your roster shows your lack of practical ability. My roster is evidence of my inevitable victory. Bring it on Barber! Ah, the naivety of a child playing checkers in the street while a game of chess takes place in a dark alley. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 23:39:23 GMT
I don't see how it's devotion. He's trying to rig the market in his favour. Trading for Lance and keeping him, then offering a big contract in the off-season is devotion. This is the Utah Jazz organization trying to remove as much decision making power from Lance Stephenson as possible. Lance should be insulted that they are attempting to remove his ability to choose the best option for himself. If a team has to resort to dirty tricks like this in order to feel that they have a shot at signing Lance then what does that say about the ability of that organization to build a winning basketball team? The answer for Lance is clear in this case. He should sign with the Denver Nuggets. We offer him the chance to be part of a dynasty. He can waste the prime of his career being forgotten on a bottom feeder team in Salt Lake City or he can join one of the best teams in the league. What if Utah can give him a big contract now? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 0:00:41 GMT
I don't see how it's devotion. He's trying to rig the market in his favour. Trading for Lance and keeping him, then offering a big contract in the off-season is devotion. This is the Utah Jazz organization trying to remove as much decision making power from Lance Stephenson as possible. Lance should be insulted that they are attempting to remove his ability to choose the best option for himself. If a team has to resort to dirty tricks like this in order to feel that they have a shot at signing Lance then what does that say about the ability of that organization to build a winning basketball team? The answer for Lance is clear in this case. He should sign with the Denver Nuggets. We offer him the chance to be part of a dynasty. He can waste the prime of his career being forgotten on a bottom feeder team in Salt Lake City or he can join one of the best teams in the league. Once again you say things and cause problems, just to put things in your favor. Your smart about things like this. Anyway you can to move the decision closer to giving you the best chance. It was a smart move but in the end this comes down to the player and his agent. You think your team is a Dynasty? Wow you took players from a game. You really have not amazed anyone. No real monetary investment. I just think the end result of this needs to be decided by Ian. Its his league. No rules at this time were broken. I cant wait to see the outcome. |
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Post by Alex English on Apr 24, 2014 0:34:22 GMT
Once again you say things and cause problems, just to put things in your favor. Your smart about things like this. Anyway you can to move the decision closer to giving you the best chance. It was a smart move but in the end this comes down to the player and his agent. You think your team is a Dynasty? Wow you took players from a game. You really have not amazed anyone. No real monetary investment. I just think the end result of this needs to be decided by Ian. Its his league. No rules at this time were broken. I cant wait to see the outcome. Haha JR man, it's trashtalk. I'm shit talking the move Josh made but then the very next thing I say is that he should sign with my team. Then the next few posts are us quoting Sun Tzu at each other. It's an act lol. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 24, 2014 0:57:33 GMT
There definitely is a real life rule against this.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 24, 2014 0:58:34 GMT
Someone message the bucks GM hahah
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 24, 2014 1:04:09 GMT
Is there a waiver system? Because I'd like to claim him if so. I have the worse record so I'd get him I'm pretty sure.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 24, 2014 1:09:09 GMT
Or a team could claim him off waivers and only pay the prorated salary so it would be like 400k or something at this point.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 24, 2014 1:10:18 GMT
Or do we let this fly and then add the rule?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 24, 2014 1:11:09 GMT
Of course he'd still have to go through regular bidding process to sign him.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 24, 2014 1:12:09 GMT
I'd personally be in favor of adding waivers just like the real nba. Though first this situation Josh should be able to do with lance whatever as rule didn't exist.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 24, 2014 1:12:58 GMT
Otherwise this strategy could kill the excitement of offseason free agency
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 24, 2014 1:17:32 GMT
Clever as shit I'll give him that.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Apr 24, 2014 2:42:37 GMT
And this is all a media move to cover up Lance's multiple fights in the locker room!
Unique and smart move though; kinda cheap at the same time. Good thing I wasn't targeting him cause he's headed back to Utah! Or Memphis, Boston, Atlanta, Milwaukee...
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Post by Danny Longley on Apr 24, 2014 3:39:23 GMT
I can understand letting this incident go, but is this really the kind of precedent we want to be setting?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 4:18:59 GMT
These kind of things are good for the league. Now we make a rule and im sure someone else will try and figure out one. But def good for the league.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 4:22:13 GMT
Of course the player would want what hes worth. So he may not take certain offers. He may just want to sign a contract to finish out this season. And sign a bigger contract in FA.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Apr 24, 2014 4:23:10 GMT
It's all up to you, Mr. Colangelo
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 24, 2014 4:28:57 GMT
Man, if I had the talent to play pro basketball and got cut by a team, it'd be a cold day in Hell before I went back to them. But that is just me; I hold grudges.
Maybe Lance, being a hard nosed kid who grew up in the BK, does too.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 24, 2014 11:15:51 GMT
I'm loving all this anti-Jazz propaganda being used to lure Lance away from me. This may very well be the start of the UTAH BAD BOYS era Led by Lance and Waiters |
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