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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 17, 2014 18:13:57 GMT
Current Rating: 76
Suggested Rating: 83
13.5 & 13.2 (pts/reb), 1.2 steals, 1.6 blocks, 62.3% from the field. He's terrible FT shooter and that will always keep his overall down, as will his lack of a true "shot", but elite rebounder, good defender and high athletic attributes should get him an 83 for now.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 17, 2014 18:15:19 GMT
Elite defender? hahahahahahaha
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 17, 2014 18:23:44 GMT
Honestly that was a bad typing thing haha. He's a good defender, elite rebounder no doubt. You are so fucking skeptical of everything I type it's fucking annoying as hell man. Your one-liner bullshit doesn't help any conversation and doesn't help the discussion on the player. Grow up. I'll get you some articles which you won't read so you can study up on the kid, 76 is crazy low for him though. Even if you only raise his athletic attributes super high and rebounding to the top of the league more or less, dunking should be very high, and inside scoring fairly high. www.pistonpowered.com/2014/01/andre-drummonds-defensive-progress-showing-up-in-pistons-offense/ - Talking about how he is not just a crazy blocker who spikes the ball into the stands, but actually directs it to his teammates and helps initiate fast-break plays by doing so. Now this is an article written by a Pistons site but it has some good evidence in it. The insinuation of elite defense was just a typo/lazy happenstance, chill out. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 17, 2014 18:36:01 GMT
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 17, 2014 18:37:30 GMT
I'm gonna keep this cut/paste job on my clipboard I think. Here it is again for you. Your one-liner bullshit doesn't help any conversation and doesn't help the discussion on the player. Grow up. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 17, 2014 18:39:57 GMT
I agree with walt's analysis. Dre is a superstar in the making and his production warrants an 83 easily.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 17, 2014 18:53:42 GMT
82. I would write up an argument, but my pawn does that for me
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 17, 2014 19:13:48 GMT
82. I would write up an argument, but my pawn does that for me Give me all that shit then give a rating one point off what I put up there. WTH man. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 17, 2014 19:17:58 GMT
His free throw needs to be one of the lowest in the game. 80 he's basically DeAndre Jordon just not as good yet.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 17, 2014 19:35:04 GMT
I get the DeAndre comp...though in Drummond's defense he doesn't have teammates NEARLY as good as Deandre has, especially not a PG lobbing him perfect passes at any point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:35:55 GMT
82
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 17, 2014 20:56:19 GMT
82. I would write up an argument, but my pawn does that for me Give me all that shit then give a rating one point off what I put up there. WTH man. I didn't give you any shit, I said he isn't an elite defender. You have a tendency to take the littlest things I say and blow them out of proportion |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 18, 2014 1:20:32 GMT
Elite defender? hahahahahahaha You laughed your ass off at me, but it was just a little thing that meant nothing. My bad, I have no idea how I took this the wrong way and blew it out of proportion. If it was really a small thing, you would've said "Elite defender? Maybe check those stats again." Something civil, I dunno. The 10 "haha's" is you being a dick, plain and simple. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 18, 2014 1:21:38 GMT
Give me all that shit then give a rating one point off what I put up there. WTH man. I didn't give you any shit, I said he isn't an elite defender. You have a tendency to take the littlest things I say and blow them out of proportion Or, if you just wanted to say, as you say "he isn't an elite defender" then guess what you should've said? "He isn't an elite defender" Again, the "hahahahahahaha" was poking at me and trying to get under my skin. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 19, 2014 14:29:29 GMT
Steady on lads! Break it up!
I'd give Drummond an 80. He could be the best Center in the East soon. The Bucks roster here is going to be amazing in a few years time if it all pans out.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Apr 19, 2014 14:35:53 GMT
He'll be 90+ one day but for now
80
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Post by James Kay on Apr 21, 2014 21:01:30 GMT
80. I have no stats to back this up but I feel like big men have great games against the Pistons so I don't really have faith in his defensive abilities yet.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 21, 2014 23:14:37 GMT
Don't think he is 83 rating level just yet. And I am of the belief that so long as the things stay the same in Detroit, and Milwaukee, no one on their teams is going to be a 90+.
I'll go 80 for now. His potential is there, don't want to overrate only to have him have a sub-par season next season and wonder how in the world he is an 83. I think the same things can be said about Vucevic and Jonas, but may be to a lesser degree. And I also think Vucevic and Jonas are in better situations, Orlando and Toronto, than Drummond in Detroit.
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Post by Bob McAdoo on Apr 22, 2014 2:03:31 GMT
Deandre Jordan after the year he had needs to go from a 79 to at least an 85. Compared with DJ I'd give Drummond an 82, even though Dre's PER is higher.
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Post by Shane Battier on Apr 23, 2014 8:49:30 GMT
81
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Post by Glenn Robinson on May 1, 2014 16:16:35 GMT
Bump
Looking at some of the other centers in our league and the centers in real life, I think Drummond should be at about an 80. Maybe 79. You have guys like Biyombo at 78 which is way to high for him right now.
Drummond finished the season averaging a double double at 13.5ppg and 13.2rpg. He also racked up 1.6blk. I think he could eventually become one of the top three centers in the league if he keeps progressing at this rate. Right now I'd say he is at least close to being a top 10 center in real life behind Noah, Cousins, Gasol, Horford, Hibbert, Howard, Lopez, Pekovic, Jefferson and Bosh.
So my vote for Drummond is 80 currently.
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 1, 2014 16:44:01 GMT
Biyombo is on the list of decreases BTW. Forget how far he is dropping but 74 or something I think.
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Post by James Kay on May 1, 2014 18:50:43 GMT
Biyombo is on the list of decreases BTW. Forget how far he is dropping but 74 or something I think. lol even as the owner of Biyombo I fully support this. Someone take him from meee |
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Post by James Kay on May 1, 2014 18:51:30 GMT
Look at those arms though
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 2, 2014 3:16:06 GMT
Look at those arms though By the arms rating Derrick Fisher should be a 99. |
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