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Post by Alex English on Apr 8, 2014 4:08:19 GMT
Current rating: 72
Suggested rating: 77
He's averaging 9.2 points, 4.1 boards and 1.0 blocks in only 18.4 minutes per game for the Mavs. He also shoots 68% from the field. His PER this season is 24.0 and for his career it's 20.7. He's like the most efficient back up in the history of the league. I think he is definitely worth a 77 rating.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 8, 2014 4:09:25 GMT
77 fair use of advanced statistics.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 8, 2014 4:17:02 GMT
Last post was 7 months ago. I don't think those ratings are too relevant. If I searched I guess I could have bumped it, but whatever. It's done now.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 8, 2014 15:59:17 GMT
75. I like him but he has to prove more before I put him just one point behind Favors. Come on people.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 8, 2014 17:03:40 GMT
74
edit: I changed my vote to 75
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Post by Alex English on Apr 8, 2014 17:10:35 GMT
Only a 74? With no reasoning? You gave Bismack Biyombo a 74, are they really equivalent? You also gave DeJuan Blair a 76. Him and Wright play on the same team and Wright has better stats and gets more playing time. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 8, 2014 20:13:24 GMT
In his career Wright has never played over 18.4 minutes a game as often is only effective in those short spurts. His PER is misleading as he can only keep it up for short stretches of time. Blair averages 10rb per 36 min while Wright averages only 8 per 36 for their careers. Wright only scores one point more but Blair has 1.5 stl to Wright's 1. Ultimately both are reserve type players with similiar stats and are solid bench pieces. I'd rather take the better rebounder in Blair than Wright also because Blair has shown a capacity to play more minutes than Wright ever has on some very good Spurs teams.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 8, 2014 20:18:03 GMT
Last year Bismack averged 7.3 Rebounds per game while Wright's career high is 4.1. While Wright is absolutly better offensively Bismack is better on the glass and a better defender. I hoonestly think he is just stcuk behind Big Al and will play much better when he gets a chance elsewhere. Right now however they are very similar players.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 8, 2014 20:44:35 GMT
In his career Wright has never played over 18.4 minutes a game as often is only effective in those short spurts. His PER is misleading as he can only keep it up for short stretches of time. Blair averages 10rb per 36 min while Wright averages only 8 per 36 for their careers. Wright only scores one point more but Blair has 1.5 stl to Wright's 1. Ultimately both are reserve type players with similiar stats and are solid bench pieces. I'd rather take the better rebounder in Blair than Wright also because Blair has shown a capacity to play more minutes than Wright ever has on some very good Spurs teams. Thanks for the explanation, though I disagree. Blair's career high in MPG is 21.4 which isn't much higher than Wright's. They also currently play on the same team and Wright has a higher MPG, which should account for something. Blair is the better rebounder but I think you are basing most of their value on that alone. Wright is the better shot blocker and by far the better offensive player both in production and efficiency and you just seem to dismiss it by saying it's misleading. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 8, 2014 20:47:17 GMT
I guess we have to agree to disagree on this one  . |
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Post by James Kay on Apr 8, 2014 20:54:16 GMT
In his career Wright has never played over 18.4 minutes a game as often is only effective in those short spurts. His PER is misleading as he can only keep it up for short stretches of time. Blair averages 10rb per 36 min while Wright averages only 8 per 36 for their careers. Wright only scores one point more but Blair has 1.5 stl to Wright's 1. Ultimately both are reserve type players with similiar stats and are solid bench pieces. I'd rather take the better rebounder in Blair than Wright also because Blair has shown a capacity to play more minutes than Wright ever has on some very good Spurs teams. Thanks for the explanation, though I disagree. Blair's career high in MPG is 21.4 which isn't much higher than Wright's. They also currently play on the same team and Wright has a higher MPG, which should account for something. Blair is the better rebounder but I think you are basing most of their value on that alone. Wright is the better shot blocker and by far the better offensive player both in production and efficiency and you just seem to dismiss it by saying it's misleading. I would just like to say that we don't need a model for player ratings when we have civilized, statistic backed discussions like this - where the difference in ratings isn't astronomical. Alex thinks 77, Brian thinks 74, they both back it up with calm, reasoned arguments and the end result will be a compromise and realistic rating. |
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Post by Alex English on Apr 8, 2014 22:13:09 GMT
That 74 is whack, Scal. Wright deserves more respect than that. You haven't given a rating yet, at least not in this thread. You said 77 in the old thread. Is that still what you would give him? |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 8, 2014 22:31:21 GMT
I just don't like players who can't produce in big minutes. Wright is an 18 min guy tops, I'd rather have a more mediocre player who can play 25, 30 solid min that one who gives me 18 good ones and nothing beyond that.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 8, 2014 22:33:10 GMT
Looking back even with what I said a 74 may be a little harsh. I'll up my vote to a 75.
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Apr 10, 2014 16:16:26 GMT
76
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 10, 2014 23:37:29 GMT
I just don't like players who can't produce in big minutes. Wright is an 18 min guy tops, I'd rather have a more mediocre player who can play 25, 30 solid min that one who gives me 18 good ones and nothing beyond that. I'd rather have a guy who can play a fantastic 18 minutes than a guy who can play 32 mediocre minutes. Then you have one guy playing a great 18 minutes and then another guy playing a mediocre 14 minutes. That's a net positive for me. I honestly don't know a lot about how Dallas's rotations are but isn't Wright behind Dirk? CAN he play good when given starters minutes? |
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Post by Bob McAdoo on Apr 11, 2014 0:50:28 GMT
IF athleticism counts, as I have heard it does, then Wright deserves a 77. He has played SF, PF and C in a 5+ year career.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 11, 2014 1:46:19 GMT
IF athleticism counts, as I have heard it does, then Wright deserves a 77. He has played SF, PF and C in a 5+ year career. It is one of the many ratings. Trying to remember them all I know there was DReb & OReb. There was BLK, STL, DAWR(defensive awareness). There was a whole slew of offensive categories... 3pt, range, dribble, pass, offensive awareness, probably 5 others and then like durability, jump, hardiness...a few others. |
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Post by Chris Mullin on Apr 11, 2014 4:13:09 GMT
75
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Apr 11, 2014 4:34:24 GMT
76
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