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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 21, 2014 2:48:40 GMT
This guy is the biggest example of New York driven hype turned into free money by a player. He can barely find 10 minutes on Toronto.
Current Rating: 77
Proposed Rating: 74
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 21, 2014 5:27:26 GMT
Edit: New rating below w/ reasoning
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 21, 2014 11:56:27 GMT
76.
When he was getting minutes he led all SG in rebounding, is a good defender.
Toronto just doesn't really need him on the floor right now.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 21, 2014 14:25:11 GMT
Certainly doesn't seem to be a terrible player or anything, there is just a point where we have to lower players after two years of minimal impact.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 21, 2014 18:36:13 GMT
He almost never plays on Toronto. Terrible parting gift from the real Bryan Coangelo. I'd give him a 71
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 9, 2014 3:50:49 GMT
Yea looking again...whew. He earned that 77 I suppose when he put up 10 points 6+ boards, 2 assists and a steal on about 50/40/77%'s. Those are impressive %'s especially
BUT, that was in 2010-11. He's lost PT every year, especially in Toronto. Doesn't even take 3's anymore, FT% for his career is now at 66.3% after shooting very poorly there...and he puts out 2 points and 2 boards with less than an assist.
I gotta put him at a 71
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Apr 9, 2014 15:24:40 GMT
72
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Post by Bob McAdoo on Apr 10, 2014 4:01:11 GMT
I own Mr. Fields and am a huge cRaptors fan so I have seen him play the last 2 years in Toronto. Landry has been recovering from injury during his time in Toronto and his 3 point shot hasn't come back yet. So I don't know how you factor in injuries (ulnar nerve transposition surgery) when a player plays instead of sitting. In his rookie year 36% of his shots were 3s and he made 39% of them - in Toronto less than 8% of his shots are 3 pointers. When he is called on he plays well, unfortunately coach Casey likes the corpse of John Salmons better than Landry - based on nothing at all really.
I think 75 if the injury is factored in and 73 if you don't consider that.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 10, 2014 5:20:11 GMT
I own Mr. Fields and am a huge cRaptors fan so I have seen him play the last 2 years in Toronto. Landry has been recovering from injury during his time in Toronto and his 3 point shot hasn't come back yet. So I don't know how you factor in injuries (ulnar nerve transposition surgery) when a player plays instead of sitting. In his rookie year 36% of his shots were 3s and he made 39% of them - in Toronto less than 8% of his shots are 3 pointers. When he is called on he plays well, unfortunately coach Casey likes the corpse of John Salmons better than Landry - based on nothing at all really. I think 75 if the injury is factored in and 73 if you don't consider that. I didn't know he had that surgery. I'll change my rating to 76 benefit of the doubt while still punishing because he's just not doing anything. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 10, 2014 12:47:20 GMT
I own Mr. Fields and am a huge cRaptors fan so I have seen him play the last 2 years in Toronto. Landry has been recovering from injury during his time in Toronto and his 3 point shot hasn't come back yet. So I don't know how you factor in injuries (ulnar nerve transposition surgery) when a player plays instead of sitting. In his rookie year 36% of his shots were 3s and he made 39% of them - in Toronto less than 8% of his shots are 3 pointers. When he is called on he plays well, unfortunately coach Casey likes the corpse of John Salmons better than Landry - based on nothing at all really. I think 75 if the injury is factored in and 73 if you don't consider that. When did that injury happen? He's been recovering from injury for at least two years is what you make it sound like. Other things I noticed....he got that 77 after his rookie season. Since then, in his 2nd year in NY, his 3pt shot started to disappear, and his FT% dropped like a rock. 3's dropped to 25.6% that year. Then 14.3 in Toronto and now 0.0 in his 2nd year there. Just curious how long he has been recovering from injury before I factor that in, b/c he's shown signs of regression ever since his rookie season, 4 seasons ago. |
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Post by Bob McAdoo on Apr 11, 2014 0:57:06 GMT
Elbow surgery happened in November of 2012, wrist surgery in January of 2014.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 11, 2014 1:02:40 GMT
You have to admit though, every player out of NYK gets overrated to shit by the public.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 11, 2014 1:47:56 GMT
Honestly, I see 3 years of decline. It may be injury related but I watched both of Landry's years in New York, basically every game, and he lost a lot of confidence when melo showed up at the end of his rookie season. He wasn't the same player the rest of that year or at all the next year, and even though injuries are a part of that, I'm keeping my 71. He can prove himself again and get a boost and I'd be happy to boost him, but right now he's useless.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 11, 2014 2:44:17 GMT
He has been injury plagued since joining the Raptors. Still he hasn't replicated his rookie year. I think 74 is good.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Apr 11, 2014 4:34:35 GMT
74
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 14, 2014 8:22:51 GMT
74.
And nerve injuries / surgeries are terrible. They are sometimes hit or miss and can take a lot longer to recover from than a normal muscle / ligament tear.
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Post by Allen Iverson on Apr 14, 2014 8:35:27 GMT
74 too. This guy needs Jeremy Lin again!
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